Nadal would have won more than Djokovic and Federer if not for injuries according to his uncle Toni.

ADuck

Legend
Again, who cares? Nadal has a physical limitation. If you are going to start imagining an alternative reality where he doesn’t have to deal with that we can do the same for all other players.

And why would I be insecure? Lol

Novak already has all the key records. If on top of that I start playing the “if,if, if” game Nadal fans are so fond of I can easily say Novak would have 35 slams by now
I've just been responding to your points, if you don't care, then just stop replying. None of the other Big 3 members were born with a physical deformity, so nah there is no "same thing" for either Federer or Djokovic.

You're being insecure because I mention one scientifically related thing and you start mentioning things like sci-fi and how I've gone off the deep end lmao. If you don't know something, being afraid to admit you don't know and trying to make fun of the other person shows insecurity.

Who is the one of started this "if, if" thread btw? Not a Nadal fan. Just a Djokovic fan trying to throw shade on Nadal.
 

WeekendTennisHack

Hall of Fame
We all have limitations!
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DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Injuries are part of the game. But give Rafa a better coach a bit earlier in his career, and then we could talk about it.
A mix of Toni and someone like Moya early on would have made for a much more complete and formidable Nadal on all surfaces.
Scary to think about it!
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DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
I wonder if he'll still feel that way if Novak goes on to win 30 slams
I doubt the Serbian player will be able to maintain that level a year from now and sooner rather than later the three youngsters will start beating him regularly in Majors tournaments.
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On the other hand, those breaks definitely helped him to recharge, work on the weaknesses, recover physically and mentally as his style has always been more physically taxing than Fedovic's. 2013 was a great example of Nadal being more fresh (skipping two slams practically) and smartly creating his schedule, while performing on a very high level in the tournaments he entered, of course.
Borg could never afford such a prolonged "vacation", while Nadal (and today's players in general, including the other two guys) could get off the tour for several months basically every second year. So yeah, less opportunities for playing a slam, but also more time to recover. It goes both ways imo.
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
A mix of Toni and someone like Moya early on would have made for a much more complete and formidable Nadal on all surfaces.
Scary to think about it!
:eek:
Imagine if we had seen a bit more of 2010 US Open ServeDal :happydevil: Most of the tour probably happy not to see him again, but what a force to be reckoned with.
 
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Toni Nadal is correct, nadal has been very unlucky with injuries. Djokovics style is as grinding if not more, but he has better flexibility.

He's saying it like it is.

Toni said in an interview with Clay (via Tennis 365)
toni nadal said:
“I think Federer and Nadal have transcended their sport more than Djokovic. And Federer has transcended his sport more than anyone else,”

From link in op - https://clutchpoints.com/rafael-nad...ak-djokovic-roger-federer-claim-per-his-uncle
 

ADuck

Legend
On the other hand, those breaks definitely helped him to recharge, work on the weaknesses, recover physically and mentally as his style has always been more physically taxing than Fedovic's. 2013 was a great example of Nadal being more fresh (skipping two slams practically) and smartly creating his schedule, while performing on a very high level in the tournaments he entered, of course.
Borg could never afford such a prolonged "vacation", while Nadal (and today's players in general, including the other two guys) could get off the tour for several months basically every second year. So yeah, less opportunities for playing a slam, but also more time to recover. It goes both ways imo.
Still an overall negative by a long shot.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Toni is another irrelevant idiot talking nonsense because he is sour. This loser should instead be talking about Felix Alisamme but he is busy doing Rafa, Federer, Djokovic talks. Felix should kick this Toni out immediately.
 

TheNachoMan

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And Rafa himself of course wants the ATP finals to be played on rotating surfaces, so it would be on clay at least in some editions:

“I’m talking for the future generations, something that will be a little bit fairer for the players. And I think for the fans it will be interesting to change the surface every year to the surfaces we qualified on for the (Tour Finals). A good player has a chance to qualify for the (Tour Finals) four or five times in his career, so if during this four years you have a different surface every year, a minimum one time he will have the chance to play on his favorite surface.” - Rafael Nadal
Toni admitting WTF is too difficult for RAFA?
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Wonder what excuse he has for Rafa's Tour Finals record.
Rafa himself of course wants the ATP finals to be played on rotating surfaces, so it would be on clay at least in some editions (source):

“I think for the fans it will be interesting to change the surface every year to the surfaces we qualified on for the (Tour Finals). A good player has a chance to qualify for the (Tour Finals) four or five times in his career, so if during this four years you have a different surface every year, a minimum one time he will have the chance to play on his favorite surface.” - Rafael Nadal
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Toni also said Nadal would have 40 GS if the AO was played on clay... lol
And if all GS were on grass (like it was the case before 1960), Federer and Djokovic would have 30-35 and Nadal would have 5.
And If my grandma had wings....
 

SonnyT

Legend
That's right, it's Djokovic by a hair. The 1st 5 are

Borg 141-17 89%
Djoko 353-47 88.3%
Nadal 314-43 88.0%
Feder 368-60 86%
Samp 203-38 84%

I'm surprised by the 6th, it's Connors.
 

ppma

Professional
All of them born same year.
Djokovic knows about his gluten intolerance before going pro.
Nadal has healthy foots.
Federer has a way better diet (he said that he eats a lot of ice cream, pizza and fries).
2 masters 1000 on grass introduced.
Let's say they all start in 2007.
Murray, Wawrinka, Delpo, Thiem not so much affected by injuries.

Who wins more GS and more Masters?

I don't know man... but I'd like to live in that world
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
Wrong. Nadal has 22 slams in 67 attempts. 32.84%

Novak has 23 in 70 attempts. 32.86%
That's basically the same rate lol. That means, what, for every ten thousand majors they play Novak should be expected to win 2 more than Rafa?

We'll see how it ends up, of course. I'd bet on Djokovic's rate improving a fair amount over the next 2-3 years.
 

Torben

Semi-Pro
Btw, the whole premise is wrong. Nadal has a lower slam win rate than Novak.
That is due to Djokovic winning the French Open. Djokovic has always been behind until this time.

He accomplished that while Nadal was out of competition. Djokovic will NEED to win Wimbledon to stay ahead, otherwise he moves back down behind Nadal in that regard.
 

Torben

Semi-Pro
That's basically the same rate lol. That means, what, for every thousand majors they play Novak wins 2 more than Rafa?

We'll see how it ends up, of course. I'd bet on Djokovic's rate improving a fair amount over the next 2-3 years.
Yes it's a very close things.

You could also look at it this way. Djokovic has a Slam win for every 3.043 Slams entered and Nadal has a Slam win for every 3.045.

It's too bad Nadal missed the French Open, otherwise...
 

Airspun

Hall of Fame
Yes it's a very close things.

You could also look at it this way. Djokovic has a Slam win for every 3.043 Slams entered and Nadal has a Slam win for every 3.045.

It's too bad Nadal missed the French Open, otherwise...
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