Nadal would have won more than Djokovic and Federer if not for injuries according to his uncle Toni.

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jimmy8

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Greg Oden would have won 10 championships if he didn't get injured.

Bill Walton would have won 11 championships if he didn't get injured.

Monica Seles would have won 25 grand slams if she didn't get stabbed.

There are so many injuries. It's part of sports. It's part of being human. You don't know what could have happened. There are many athletes in many sports that might have won more if they didn't get injured. Some people get injured because they took steroids.
 
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Airspun said:
oh trust me, you insecure DJoker fans seem to care about nothing else than proving his superiority daily LOL
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I just wanted the rivalry of Fedal to be exposed! It was the tennis intelligentsia that tried to make out that the sport began & ended w/ them! It was total BS! :unsure: :giggle::laughing::-D
 
nolefam_2024

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Being fit is part of the legacy. Nadal couldn't. That's why he is almost half the number of weeks at number 1. Way behind Djokovic in real terms. And Novak is 1 year younger on top of that.
 
GabeT

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Airspun said:
so does 24>22,
yet you will still cry.
LOL
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Srdjan gets a lot of flack for his comments. And rightfully so. But why doesn’t Toni? At least Srdjan doesn’t hold back and just says what’s on his mind unfiltered. Toni hides behind the “humblito” tag, which spares him from mass media scrutiny for saying rubbish like this.
 
The_Order

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DSH said:
I doubt the Serbian player will be able to maintain that level a year from now and sooner rather than later the three youngsters will start beating him regularly in Majors tournaments.
:cool:
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It's not about him maintaining a level... it's more about the other kids as his comp...
 
DSH

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The_Order said:
It's not about him maintaining a level... it's more about the other kids as his comp...
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As "bad" as the current competition is, Djokovic will no longer be able to sustain his high level after next year's Australian Open.
It's not humanly possible unless you believe in miracles.
:sneaky:
 
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I doubt it.. He wasn't good enough on grass and hards consistently against the field. Way more prone to upsets against lesser players off clay. Sure its possible but not probable. Nadal had the best and highest peak of the big 3 but Fed and Djoker were far more consistent all through the year and could keep it going year in year out.. Where Nadal would generally fade away after RG alot of the time. Plus he overtrained like a moron which resulted in the said injuries
 
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Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
I doubt it.. He wasn't good enough on grass and hards consistently against the field. Way more prone to upsets against lesser players off clay. Sure its possible but not probable. Nadal had the best and highest peak of the big 3 but Fed and Djoker were far more consistent all through the year and could keep it going year in year out.. Where Nadal would generally fade away after RG alot of the time. Plus he overtrained like a moron which resulted in the said injuries
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How is it not probable when Djokovic is only one slam ahead of him currently? On clay alone Nadal had three opportunities that were marred by injury 2009, 2016 and 2021.
 
DSH

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Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
I doubt it.. He wasn't good enough on grass and hards consistently against the field. Way more prone to upsets against lesser players off clay. Sure its possible but not probable. Nadal had the best and highest peak of the big 3 but Fed and Djoker were far more consistent all through the year and could keep it going year in year out.. Where Nadal would generally fade away after RG alot of the time
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Nadal was unable to develop a great serve for most of his career on surfaces like grass or hard courts which prevented him from being more successful than he was.
It also didn't help that Toni wasted his nephew's extraordinary physique by adopting mean-spirited play in his youth on surfaces where he should have played more aggressively.
I think that despite the tremendous association of both, it could have been even more fruitful if they included someone who had played the role of Moya at the beginning of the career of the legendary Spanish lefty.
:(
 
Rafa4LifeEver

Rafa4LifeEver

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Backspin1183 said:
No lies detected.
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Tony himself was heavily responsible for that though. Imagine if Rafa got rid of him around late 2010 and hired Moya.
Under Moya's coaching influence, Rafasl's game became much more efficient than what it was under Tony's influence. Between 2017 Australian open to Wimbledon 2022, Rafa lost only once before the QFs at the slams he competed in.
That's a crazy stat.
 
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Rafa4LifeEver said:
Tony himself was heavily responsible for that though. Imagine if Rafa got rid of him around late 2010 and hired Moya.
Under Moya's coaching influence, Rafasl's game became much more efficient than what it was under Tony's influence. Between 2017 Australian open to Wimbledon 2022, Rafa lost only once before the QFs at the slams he competed in.
That's a crazy stat.
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Could not agree more, they style where he stands 8 metres deep and runs like a dog does have an impact. Unless you are Monica Seles, with the stabbing, or Djokovic getting deported, tough titties
 
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Rafa4LifeEver said:
Tony himself was heavily responsible for that though. Imagine if Rafa got rid of him around late 2010 and hired Moya.
Under Moya's coaching influence, Rafasl's game became much more efficient than what it was under Tony's influence. Between 2017 Australian open to Wimbledon 2022, Rafa lost only once before the QFs at the slams he competed in.
That's a crazy stat.
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I asked this with an old id why he is not going for new ideas in 2015 or start 2016, I said he is not injured, he still moves better but why not new perspective like Fed in 2014 with Edberg or Novak in 2013 end with Becker.
Rafa was 5-6 year later with change of coach.
Come to think of it only Djokovic changed the tactis and coach right time in 2013 (even he wasted two years with Pepe).
Fed should have gone for bigger racquet in 09 end or 10 with new coach, Rafa should have adopted new approach and coach from 2011 end.
 
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leodevlin

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If Djoko hadn't hit the line person and had been vaccinated , he would have won more already as well. So it all balances out .
 
joekapa

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it comes down to this....in my eyes.....and Uncle Toni can cry all he wants.

Pete Sampras, was the best of his generation
Federer was the best of his generation (2003- approx 2009), even though he extended his career.
Djokovic was the best of his generation.
Nadal, is the second best player of his generation (he is in the same generation of Djokovic). In essence he is an Agassi. Nothing to sneeze at.
 
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joshuayuan

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That's impossible. He's only injured when he loses. So, if he is injured a lot, that only means he loses a lot (how can he win more?). And, a healthy Nadal couldn't even win Paris Masters or WTF.
 
Rafa4LifeEver

Rafa4LifeEver

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NAS said:
I asked this with an old id why he is not going for new ideas in 2015 or start 2016, I said he is not injured, he still moves better but why not new perspective like Fed in 2014 with Edberg or Novak in 2013 end with Becker.
Rafa was 5-6 year later with change of coach.
Come to think of it only Djokovic changed the tactis and coach right time in 2013 (even he wasted two years with Pepe).
Fed should have gone for bigger racquet in 09 end or 10 with new coach, Rafa should have adopted new approach and coach from 2011 end.
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It took me a second reading to completely understand all of what you were trying to say, and I have to say that I agree for the most part about Rafa.
 
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abmk

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Gary Duane said:
Right now we are seeing some of the best young players we've seen for a very long time.
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Given how bad the 2 generations from 89-99 have been , pretty skeptical till anyone of the youngsters actually establishes himself.
Had hope on Alcaraz, but he blew it in the RG Semi, a match where he was the clear favorite based on form.
Of course he has time, but as of now, unless he proves it, its bleak for tennis.

WTA on the other hand actually has some quality/competition/young talent, with Iga, Sabalenka, Rybakina and others including Jabeur who's made multiple Wimbledon finals including the current one, Gauff, Muchova who came so close to unsaeating Iga at RG, Bencic, Ostapenko etc.
 
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Gary Duane said:
It's not TTW. It's the children here. The adults simply get worn down by the nonsense. In real life people who act childish at the worst get ignored. In some cases if they go too far they get punched in the mouth. :)

Right now we are seeing some of the best young players we've seen for a very long time. And we have a 36 year old who is setting a new standard of fitness and longevity in tennis. I think it's a very exciting time to be a tennis fan.
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Yeah, very exciting times when one player wins all the slams, and that is a 36 years old. The next gen are physically not good enough to play in BO5 against him. "Some of the very best..." Some users have no shame.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1

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DSH said:
As "bad" as the current competition is, Djokovic will no longer be able to sustain his high level after next year's Australian Open.
It's not humanly possible unless you believe in miracles.
:sneaky:
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Luckily he doesn’t even need to win another tennis match ever again. He’s achieved his main goal now.
 
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abmk said:
Given how bad the 2 generations from 89-99 have been , pretty skeptical till anyone of the youngsters actually establishes himself.
Had hope on Alcaraz, but he blew it in the RG Semi, a match where he was the clear favorite based on form.
Of course he has time, but as of now, unless he proves it, its bleak for tennis.

WTA on the other hand actually has some quality/competition/young talent, with Iga, Sabalenka, Rybakina and others including Jabeur who's made multiple Wimbledon finals including the current one, Gauff, Muchova who came so close to unsaeating Iga at RG, Bencic, Ostapenko etc.
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Agree...what's most disappointing is that djokovic can play his normal average game in a GS final and still beat tsitsipas and ruud in straights. They don't even make him work. Others like sinner aren't able to make match adjustments.
At least fed and nadal made him bleed for his victories.
 
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