OddJack
G.O.A.T.
looks quite sissy to me. May god bless you with better taste.. did you pay the underpaid to hack your name on it also? Fintendo Nike?
Nadal's attitude is unreal for a top sports athlete!
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looks quite sissy to me. May god bless you with better taste.. did you pay the underpaid to hack your name on it also? Fintendo Nike?
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Is blue a feminine color? Never heard that before!
OddJack
G.O.A.T.
it's ok. jsut a tease for the guy who comes here and writes one sentence out of the blue: Federer has silly hair style.
I know, maybe I am being too sensitive now. But consider I write: Nadal has silly accent, or silly looks .... and chances are someone gonna say something.
I really wish we as fans could be more respectful to each other and players we like.
OddJack
G.O.A.T.
no but man(?) those all deep blue are not suitable for a guy. I bet you even in where you are you get some laughs out of it. Just try it once and let me know
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
We need a picture for proof
edmondsm
Legend
OK Kraggy. If you want to have a good debate, then please tell us why class acts like Tim Duncan, Lebron James, Curt Schilling, Zinedine Zidane, and others all have worse attitudes then Nadal. I think that it's an unqualifyable statement that you made and that's why my response was a little *****ely. I apologize. When you've been posting on this forum for a while you get an itchy trigger finger. No offense intended.
A. Federer is obviously slower than he was from 2003-2005
B. Federer needs a psychiatrist, or someone to instill mental fortitude in him. That's obvious.
kraggy
Banned
None taken. I mentioned in a later post that I should have qualified my statement to be about individual sport athletes and not all athletes in general. I think its easier to stay humble in a team sport because winning in a team is not just about you. But if you look at the top individual sport athletes ( say running , boxing, tennis, formula 1 etc etc) more often than not the top athletes have a bit of an ego. Of course it would be foolish of me to say that Nadal is the only top athlete who is humble. But he definitely belongs to a very small group.
edmondsm
Legend
Sorry I missed your post. That's a very good point. Michael Jordan said, albeit in the presence of John McEnroe, that athletes in individual sports have it much tougher then the ones in team sports. If Michael Jordan is having a crap game, you just sit him down and let Scottie Pippen run the team. In tennis you win and lose on your own. Sure, your family is there in the stands, but when you are on the GS stage they might as well be a mile away.
You are 100% right, Nadal has exceptionally good character for a superstar athlete in an individual sport.
Having said that, have you ever seen an interview with Fedor Emelianenko? MMA isn't for everyone but regardless you have to respect how humble that guy is, in a sport that is basically predicated on firing yourself up enough to want to beat the snot out of a guy in front of 1000's of people.
rubberduckies
Professional
Duncan = class act
James = class act
Schilling = huge a-hole for most of his career
Zidane = headbutt
Fedor Emelianenko is like the sea. When he's calm, he can't even hurt you. However, when he's enraged, he can destroy anything in his path. Literally; anything.
That guy is just.... a monster. In the ring of course. I remember him during Pride; geez. He pummeled people badly. Even Crocop really didn't even stand a chance.
edmondsm
Legend
I admit, I don't watch baseball. I didn't know that about Schilling, I had heard him described as a good dude. But come on, don't judge ZZ on that one incident. He gets a little emotional out there, we've seen it before. Soccer, like basketball, is a game where you are in direct contact with your opponent all the time. So you can't judge them to harshly.
edmondsm
Legend
I see it a little differently. Fedor can completely detach himself from the violent, testosterone fueled aspect of the sport. He's an athlete, that's all. His job is to win, using all the skills he has, and nothing personal ever enters his mind.
However, you are right. This is not the guy you want to smart off to at a bar after you've had a few I.P.A's.
Yeah, I heard people describing him as the nicest person you'd ever meet outside the ring. In the ring though; he's destructive.
edmondsm
Legend
I want to see Fedor vs. Lesnar sooo bad.
You want to see a beat down?
Fedor would probably kill him. It's either a knock out punch, arm bar, or ankle lock. Or maybe Fedor will get fancy and try to kimura him or something.
edmondsm
Legend
You want to see a beat down?
Fedor would probably kill him. It's either a knock out punch, arm bar, or ankle lock. Or maybe Fedor will get fancy and try to kimura him or something.
I agree. I actually think Mir is going to beat Lesnar. But I am almost rooting for Lesnar to win so I can see his hill-billy ass step in the ring with Fedor and get dismantled.
i will agree with that, but we are blessed to be watching two of the most gracious champions that tennis has ever seen including pete and andre. federer and nadal are both as down to earth, humble top notch athletes as any generation has seen or will see. nadal seems to have a great perspective on life and his necessity and importance to sport.
It would be hilarious if Fedor Kimura'd Lesner just to embarrass him. Fedor however, is to cold, ruthless, and efficient to do something like that though.
Heck, I think Sakuraba (during his prime) could take Lesner.
edmondsm
Legend
Lesnar is a hell of prospect for any fighter, but he is just so untested. Look how easy he fell into a kneebar against Mir. There are many fighters out there that deserve a better reputation then Lesnar. Lesnar should not have the title, he took the short cut. Look at what Rashad Evans had to do to get a belt.
So in all honesty, I hope Mir takes Lesnar out with a Kimura.
lol, don't be such a hater oddjack. :shock:
ShooterMcMarco
Hall of Fame
Read the interview with Toni Nadal in Tennis magazine, you can definitely see a lot of what Toni teaches in Rafa. He has definitely done a great job staying grounded.
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Deleted member 21996
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hell just what we needed: another silly thread about how nice Jesus Raf is...
praise the lord...
how many will we have more...
praise the lord...
how many will we have more...
Bretto
New User
Davydenko is a boiled egg...
Bretto
New User
Jankovic? Davenport? Kuznetsova? Davydenko? Murray? Stepanek? How do you explain them?!
Possibly, possibly not
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
Wow I did become a celebrity here, every time there's a thread about Nadal my name pops up. Hope I don't become insufferably arrogant from all that recognition.
Kraggy, I'm with you. To me Nadal is THE role model. Fantastic attitude in the face of both fame and adversity + mindboggling work ethic. He is the best thing that could ever happen to sport!
You are hilarious. Naturally, I agree with everything you say. What I don't understand is why we can't love on our favorite around here? Weird, isn't it?
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
There it is! It's a smart move too, imo. Rafa doesn't thrive on accolades and flattery. He's on his own mission and it doesn't include Fed. What does he care about complimenting someone else? When he plays Fed there's extra incentive. You can see it in his eyes.
Giggs The Red Devil
Rookie
Nadal is extremely humble, has a huge heart, makes so few errors. I wish he was my dentist.
I prefer an athlete who’s more of a show-off. Muhammad Ali, for example.
I prefer an athlete who’s more of a show-off. Muhammad Ali, for example.
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
We can, we will, we won't be defeated
He is pretty good about being humble most of the time, but when he loses tight matches, he does kind of get arrogant.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Interesting theory except I do not believe that my favorite player is inferior to Fed. Actually when I compare their career at the same age, I believe my favorite player is infinitely superior to Federer
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
Interesting theory except I do not believe that my favorite player is inferior to Fed. Actually when I compare their career at the same age, I believe my favorite player is infinitely superior to Federer
Absolutely! And that 13-6 h2h ain't bad either. And considering all of his grand slams have come through one of the "greatest ever", how on earth could we complain? Who else can boast such an achievement? How many greats in recent years can say they beat the best in the tournament and in the finals? Not many!
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
And look at how much effort he's putting in a modest tournament like Rotterdam. Which other player would do that right after a huge win like AO? Not many IMO. He treats every tournament the same and is as hungry after winning a slam as before. That's something special. Courier said something along the lines of "after winning RG I would be celebrating for days not going to Queen's and win the tournament." Nadal never lingers on big successes, he just focuses on the next thing right away. Very unique.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Especially for every slam they won! 6 slams, 6 times defeating Federer! Roger is lucky that Rafa needed time to adjust his game to hard court. If he had been ready for hard courts as quickly as for clay, the "Federer years" may never even have existed!
Look at 2006, what an extraordinary year, Federer superconfident doesn't lose to a single opponent the whole year except ...4 times to Rafa
(oops Murray's fans, don't be mad, I keep forgetting, Fed also lost 1 match to Murray that year)
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edmondsm
Legend
Interesting theory except I do not believe that my favorite player is inferior to Fed. Actually when I compare their career at the same age, I believe my favorite player is infinitely superior to Federer
Especially for every slam they won! 6 slams, 6 times defeating Federer! Roger is lucky that Rafa needed time to adjust his game to hard court. If he had been ready for hard courts as quickly as for clay, the "Federer years" may never even have existed!
Look at 2006, what an extraordinary year, Federer superconfident doesn't lose to a single opponent the whole year except ...4 times to Rafa
Hate to break it to you guys, but Nadal said it himself:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=245235
kraggy
Banned
I disagree with you there. Take a look at this clip and his thoughts on Andy murray as the favourite for the AO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miYqp0jQy1U
Fed openly talks about how great it is to be creating history every game etc etc.
I'm not saying that tennis players need to be great humanitarians . Fed is an exceptional player, possibly the most talented player to have walked the planet. But for some fans such as myself, we judge a player not just based on their results/game but also based on his attitude. Simply no comparison between Fed and Nadal in that dept.
Nadal is humble enough to give a lot of credit to other players. Pistol Pete gave just about the right amount of credit. Fed doesn't always give his opponents enough credit.
I understand why Fed has the attitude that he does. 90% of human beings would have that attitude if they were in Feds position. 4 yrs of complete dominance, the whole world singing your praises, people calling you the GOAT - its super hard to not have an ego after that! Which is why I have so much admiration for those 10% of people who CAN fight the urge to be arrogant. Nadal is one of them.
kraggy
Banned
Just to contrast , here are Nadals views on Murray:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHEIdP51Vyo&feature=related
edmondsm
Legend
We shall see. When Federer first took over #1 he was looked at as the humble giant. Absolute pure class and sportsmanship. Only after his dominance had stretched over 3-4 years did you hear these "arrogant" comments appear. Nadal has been #1 for 1/10 the time Roger was, so maybe time will tell if Nadal keeps his comments so humble.
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