Nadal's Career Clay Court Losses... a Comprehensive List

[Blue Cat]

He released the statement confirming his injury after RG,

So he got injured after Roland Garros but before Wimbledon? Thanks!


Cheers.

 

[Xemi666]

So he got injured after Roland Garros but before Wimbledon? Thanks!


Cheers.

Right, whatever floats your boat troll, to ignore you go.

 

[The-Champ]

:shock: There are many "new" members this year

 

[Mortifier]

The so-called "excuses" or lack thereof, are irrelevant. Once the match starts, you're officially fit to play.

That has always been my definition aswell, too bad people don't seem to share our opinion.

 

[rommil]

Soderling 2009: knee. Federer 2007 and 2009: exhaustion. Ferrero 2008: foot blister. Valencia 2005: overloaded schedule.
The rest is when Rafa was still learning how to play on clay

That's way more excuses than a wheelchair player would even make.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Some people just need to relax a bit.

In essence, injuries are part of the sport. We talk a lot about how many times Nadal was injured in his loses, or exhausted. But how many times would he have been beaten players who were also injured and/or exhausted? Yet, maybe they didn't make anouncements about it.

It is all part of the package. I am sure many of Nadal's wins were against players who weren't 100% either.

Either way, 100% or not, if you step on court, then you are fit enough to play. If not, retire. And this is for all players.

 

[pmerk34]

Some people just need to relax a bit.

In essence, injuries are part of the sport. We talk a lot about how many times Nadal was injured in his loses, or exhausted. But how many times would he have been beaten players who were also injured and/or exhausted? Yet, maybe they didn't make anouncements about it.

It is all part of the package. I am sure many of Nadal's wins were against players who weren't 100% either.

Either way, 100% or not, if you step on court, then you are fit enough to play. If not, retire. And this is for all players.

Except for Nadal. Soderling never beat him his knee's did blah blah blah

 

[Mustard]

Except for Nadal. Soderling never beat him his knee's did blah blah blah

It doesn't matter if Nadal was injured or not in that match. They both started the match and Soderling won it.

 

[pmerk34]

It doesn't matter if Nadal was injured or not in that match. They both started the match and Soderling won it.

I agree with you. the cult of Nadal on this board thinks the guy has never been beaten

 

[aphex]

Immediately after the French Open he didn't play any tournaments idiot, next time check things before calling other people names.

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[The-Champ]

I agree with you. the cult of Nadal on this board thinks the guy has never been beaten

of course he's been beaten. Tsonga AO08, Fed Wim06, Gonzales AO07, Murray USO08, Fed WTC 06,07

 

[reversef]

Some people just need to relax a bit.

In essence, injuries are part of the sport. We talk a lot about how many times Nadal was injured in his loses, or exhausted. But how many times would he have been beaten players who were also injured and/or exhausted? Yet, maybe they didn't make anouncements about it.

It is all part of the package. I am sure many of Nadal's wins were against players who weren't 100% either.

Either way, 100% or not, if you step on court, then you are fit enough to play. If not, retire. And this is for all players.

Everything in your post is 100% correct. Injuries and exhaustion are part of the sport. But I don't understand why so many people consider them "fake". Even an injury like the one he got in the AO this year is suspicious for them. Why? It's clear. Almost no chance to win in those conditions against a player like Ferrer. End of the story. Of course, he also won matches against injured/exhausted players. That's all part of the game. If players were never injured or exhausted, the history of the Grand Slams champions would be completely different. Who knows what the second part of Hewitt's career would have been without all his injuries for example? Maybe he would have won more slams, maybe he would have taken some slams from Federer or Nadal? Or Djokovic's first AO? Maybe. But that's part of the sport. There is no reason to deny the existence of those his injuries though.
Same for the "exhaustion" part. Tennis fans anxiously look at the draw of the players they support and their opponents because they know that it can make the difference. When Nadal reached the SF of the USO last year, everyone could know that he was peaking and that he was ready to win the tournament. Getting an exhausted Youzhny in the SF didn't hurt though. Especially when Djokovic had to fight so hard to reach the final. Everyone who really wanted to see Nadal win watched the end of the SF between Fed and Djoko with a big smile. Saying the opposite is hypocritical. Nadal had the ability to beat Djokovic, no doubt, but being the player who had the easiest SF didn't hurt his chances. It's just a fact. And maybe he would have won in 3 sets instead of 4 if the match had been played on sunday. You don't know what the result of the final would have been if Djokovic had cruised through his SF while Nadal was fighting hard.
Same thing (but reversed) in the WTF: Federer was playing his best tennis, but I know that his fans were still very happy that Nadal had to fight so hard to beat Murray. The result could have been different with reversed situations... or not. That's part of the game, but saying that the exhaustion factor had no impact is hypocritical.

 

[rommil]

of course he's been beaten. Tsonga AO08, Fed Wim06, Gonzales AO07, Murray USO08, Fed WTC 06,07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0iDELQFl9I


Here's another one for you......oh wait, he is injured on this one too. If he is wearing tapes on his knees or wearing an oversized blouse, that doesn't count.

 

[Bud]

Let's try and keep the thread on topic

Thanks

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Everything in your post is 100% correct. Injuries and exhaustion are part of the sport. But I don't understand why so many people consider them "fake". Even an injury like the one he got in the AO this year is suspicious for them. Why? It's clear. Almost no chance to win in those conditions against a player like Ferrer. End of the story. Of course, he also won matches against injured/exhausted players. That's all part of the game. If players were never injured or exhausted, the history of the Grand Slams champions would be completely different. Who knows what the second part of Hewitt's career would have been without all his injuries for example? Maybe he would have won more slams, maybe he would have taken some slams from Federer or Nadal? Or Djokovic's first AO? Maybe. But that's part of the sport. There is no reason to deny the existence of those his injuries though.
Same for the "exhaustion" part. Tennis fans anxiously look at the draw of the players they support and their opponents because they know that it can make the difference. When Nadal reached the SF of the USO last year, everyone could know that he was peaking and that he was ready to win the tournament. Getting an exhausted Youzhny in the SF didn't hurt though. Especially when Djokovic had to fight so hard to reach the final. Everyone who really wanted to see Nadal win watched the end of the SF between Fed and Djoko with a big smile. Saying the opposite is hypocritical. Nadal had the ability to beat Djokovic, no doubt, but being the player who had the easiest SF didn't hurt his chances. It's just a fact. And maybe he would have won in 3 sets instead of 4 if the match had been played on sunday. You don't know what the result of the final would have been if Djokovic had cruised through his SF while Nadal was fighting hard.
Same thing (but reversed) in the WTF: Federer was playing his best tennis, but I know that his fans were still very happy that Nadal had to fight so hard to beat Murray. The result could have been different with reversed situations... or not. That's part of the game, but saying that the exhaustion factor had no impact is hypocritical.

Good post! I agree with you completely. Injuries and exhaustion are just so ingrained in the sport, that you cannot separate them to have a black and a white. There will always be matters in the grey, and some of your examples above pefectly illustrate that.

We need to accept the results as what they are, two player playing a match, with a winner and loser. To say concisely that certain other elements or factors did not come into play isn't really wise.

 

[pmerk34]

Let's try and keep the thread on topic

Thanks

It is on topic. According to *********s the man has never lost on clay no matter how man losses he actually has on the surface.

 

[Tony48]

I had no idea that Gaudio beat Nadal 3x.

So I guess Novak joins him as the only people to have done so.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Shortest list and smallest opening post I've EVER seen...

 

[Mustard]

I had no idea that Gaudio beat Nadal 3x.

So I guess Novak joins him as the only people to have done so.

A young Nadal, though.

 

[Ehh]

Let's try and keep the thread on topic

Thanks

I thought you're meant to update the OP? Or does it not look as good now?

 

[monfed]

LOL@this thread. As if anyone cares about clay(in real life that is).

 

[Mustard]

LOL@this thread. As if anyone cares about clay(in real life that is).

Clay is the best surface in tennis.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Clay is the best surface in tennis.

I'm starting to agree.

 

[tudwell]

The OP needs to be updated. He's got five more losses now.

 

[Sartorius]

Clay is the best surface in tennis.

That's not any less ridiculous than the post you quoted.

 

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

Amazing. And RNadal has still NEVER lost more than twice in a clay-court season since 2004.

 

[nethawkwenatchee]

Let's not forget Verdasco

http://youtu.be/SkH4q8FQ5Rs?t=14m10s

 

[forzamilan90]

Amazing. And RNadal has still NEVER lost more than twice in a clay-court season since 2004.

forgot about 2011?

 

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

forgot about 2011?

RNadal only lost twice on clay in 2011. I said MORE than twice, i.e. 3 or more times.

 

[tudwell]

RNadal only lost twice on clay in 2011. I said MORE than twice, i.e. 3 or more times.

Will 2013 be the year? One can certainly hope.

 

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

Will 2013 be the year? One can certainly hope.

Yep, hope, hope, hope. Hope that RFederer will beat RNadal at Roland Garros. Hope that RFederer can reverse a 10-19 h2h deficit and a 2-8 slam h2h deficit. Hope that somehow, in some universe, RFederer can be considered a greater clay-courter than RNadal. Hope, more like extremely wishful thinking.

 

[forzamilan90]

RNadal only lost twice on clay in 2011. I said MORE than twice, i.e. 3 or more times.

holy crap you're right, i need glasses! unless you edited it and tricked me.

 

[Mainad]

Nadal has played in 45 claycourt finals and lost only 6 of them:

2007 Hamburg to Federer
2009 Madrid to Federer
2011 Madrid to Djokovic
2011 Rome to Djokovic
2013 Vina del Mar to Zeballos
2013 Monte Carlo to Djokovic

 

[Ehh]

Yep, hope, hope, hope. Hope that RFederer will beat RNadal at Roland Garros. Hope that RFederer can reverse a 10-19 h2h deficit and a 2-8 slam h2h deficit. Hope that somehow, in some universe, RFederer can be considered a greater clay-courter than RNadal. Hope, more like extremely wishful thinking.

Hope that RNadal can win the WTF even once. Hope that he can win 18 or more slams. Hope that in some universe, RNadal can be considered a greater tennis-player than RFederer. Hope you and all your incarnations get banned permanently. Oh that really is wishful thinking.

 

[Drob]

Update

Comprehensive list of Nadal's career clay court losses:

2002 Mallorca - Rochus d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Umag - Moya d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2003 Hamburg - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Barcelona - Corettja d. Nadal (3-6, 6-2, 6-1)
2003 Monte Carlo - Coria d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2003 Bastad - Lapentti d. Nadal (3-6, 6-3, 7-6)
2003 Stuttgart - Gonzalez d. Nadal (6-2, 3-6, 6-2)
2004 Palermo - Mutis d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2004 Stuttgart - Ferrer d. Nadal (6-3, 6-7, 7-5)
2004 Bastad - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-3)
2005 Buenos Aires - Gaudio d. Nadal (0-6, 6-0, 6-1)
2005 Valencia - Andreev d. Nadal (7-5, 6-2)
2007 Hamburg - Federer d. Nadal (2-6, 6-2, 6-0)
2008 Rome - Ferrero d. Nadal (7-5, 6-1)
2009 Madrid - Federer d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2009 FO - Soderling d. Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)

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Will add to this list after any future clay losses

Let me know if there are any errors

Thanks

This list should be updated. Don't know all the losses, but they have become less uncommon:

2011 at Madrid, and at Italian Open, to Djokovich
2012 at Madrid to Verdasco
2013 at Vina del Mar to Horacio Zeballos; at Monte Carlo to Djokovich
2014 at Monte Carlo to Ferrer; at Barcelona to Nicolas Almargo

 

[Chico]

RG SF 2013 and Madrid F 2014 should be on that list.

 

[Bud]

This list should be updated. Don't know all the losses, but they have become less uncommon:

2011 at Madrid, and at Italian Open, to Djokovich
2012 at Madrid to Verdasco
2013 at Vina del Mar to Horacio Zeballos; at Monte Carlo to Djokovich
2014 at Monte Carlo to Ferrer; at Barcelona to Nicolas Almargo

K, will update. Thanks

Up to 23 losses from 16 in the OP

 

[bullfan]

LOL Chico Cherry!

RG SF 2013 and Madrid F 2014 should be on that list.

Still harping on this..... Only you!!!! are whining about a non-issue. It was just a typical loss by Novak at the FO!

 

[underground]

2002 Mallorca - Rochus d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Umag - Moya d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2003 Hamburg - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Barcelona - Corettja d. Nadal (3-6, 6-2, 6-1)
2003 Monte Carlo - Coria d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2003 Bastad - Lapentti d. Nadal (3-6, 6-3, 7-6)
2003 Stuttgart - Gonzalez d. Nadal (6-2, 3-6, 6-2)
2004 Palermo - Mutis d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2004 Stuttgart - Ferrer d. Nadal (6-3, 6-7, 7-5)
2004 Bastad - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-3)
2005 Buenos Aires - Gaudio d. Nadal (0-6, 6-0, 6-1)
2005 Valencia - Andreev d. Nadal (7-5, 6-2)
2007 Hamburg - Federer d. Nadal (2-6, 6-2, 6-0)
2008 Rome - Ferrero d. Nadal (7-5, 6-1)
2009 Madrid - Federer d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2009 FO - Soderling d. Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)
2011 Madrid - Djokovic d. Nadal (7-5, 6-4)
2011 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2012 Madrid - Verdasco d. Nadal (6-3, 3-6, 7-5)
2013 Vina del Mar - Zeballos d. Nadal (6-7, 7-6, 6-4)
2013 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-2, 7-6)
2014 Monte Carlo - Ferrer d. Nadal (7-6, 6-4)
2014 Barcelona - Almagro d. Nadal (2-6, 7-6, 6-4)
2014 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (4-6, 6-3, 6-3)
2015 Rio de Janeiro - Fognini d. Nadal (1-6, 6-2, 7-5)
2015 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3) highlighted in white in case people moan about spoilers

 

[Tenez!]

4 more for the count, needs revamping.

The missing "2010" line is disturbing.

 

[jm1980]

2002 Mallorca - Rochus d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Umag - Moya d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2003 Hamburg - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Barcelona - Corettja d. Nadal (3-6, 6-2, 6-1)
2003 Monte Carlo - Coria d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2003 Bastad - Lapentti d. Nadal (3-6, 6-3, 7-6)
2003 Stuttgart - Gonzalez d. Nadal (6-2, 3-6, 6-2)
2004 Palermo - Mutis d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2004 Stuttgart - Ferrer d. Nadal (6-3, 6-7, 7-5)
2004 Bastad - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-3)
2005 Buenos Aires - Gaudio d. Nadal (0-6, 6-0, 6-1)
2005 Valencia - Andreev d. Nadal (7-5, 6-2)
2007 Hamburg - Federer d. Nadal (2-6, 6-2, 6-0)
2008 Rome - Ferrero d. Nadal (7-5, 6-1)
2009 Madrid - Federer d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2009 FO - Soderling d. Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)
2011 Madrid - Djokovic d. Nadal (7-5, 6-4)
2011 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2012 Madrid - Verdasco d. Nadal (6-3, 3-6, 7-5)
2013 Vina del Mar - Zeballos d. Nadal (6-7, 7-6, 6-4)
2013 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-2, 7-6)
2014 Monte Carlo - Ferrer d. Nadal (7-6, 6-4)
2014 Barcelona - Almagro d. Nadal (2-6, 7-6, 6-4)
2014 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (4-6, 6-3, 6-3)
2015 Rio de Janeiro - Fognini d. Nadal (1-6, 6-2, 7-5)
2015 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2015 Barcelona - Fognini d. Nadal (6-3, 7-6)
2015 Madrid - Murray d. Nadal (6-3, 6-2)
2015 Rome - Wawrinka d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2015 FO - Djokovic d. Nadal (7-5, 6-3, 6-1)

 

[Chicharito]

2002 Mallorca - Rochus d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Umag - Moya d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2003 Hamburg - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Barcelona - Corettja d. Nadal (3-6, 6-2, 6-1)
2003 Monte Carlo - Coria d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2003 Bastad - Lapentti d. Nadal (3-6, 6-3, 7-6)
2003 Stuttgart - Gonzalez d. Nadal (6-2, 3-6, 6-2)
2004 Palermo - Mutis d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2004 Stuttgart - Ferrer d. Nadal (6-3, 6-7, 7-5)
2004 Bastad - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-3)
2005 Buenos Aires - Gaudio d. Nadal (0-6, 6-0, 6-1)
2005 Valencia - Andreev d. Nadal (7-5, 6-2)
2007 Hamburg - Federer d. Nadal (2-6, 6-2, 6-0)
2008 Rome - Ferrero d. Nadal (7-5, 6-1)
2009 Madrid - Federer d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2009 FO - Soderling d. Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)
2011 Madrid - Djokovic d. Nadal (7-5, 6-4)
2011 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2012 Madrid - Verdasco d. Nadal (6-3, 3-6, 7-5)
2013 Vina del Mar - Zeballos d. Nadal (6-7, 7-6, 6-4)
2013 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-2, 7-6)
2014 Monte Carlo - Ferrer d. Nadal (7-6, 6-4)
2014 Barcelona - Almagro d. Nadal (2-6, 7-6, 6-4)
2014 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (4-6, 6-3, 6-3)
2015 Rio de Janeiro - Fognini d. Nadal (1-6, 6-2, 7-5)
2015 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2015 Barcelona - Fognini d. Nadal (6-3, 7-6)
2015 Madrid - Murray d. Nadal (6-3, 6-2)
2015 Rome - Wawrinka d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2015 FO - Djokovic d. Nadal (7-5, 6-3, 6-1)
2016 Buenos Aires Thiem d. Nadal (6-4 4-6 7-6)


31 losses

6 to Djokovic
3 to Gaudio
2 to Federer
2 to Fognini
2 to Ferrer

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

2002 Mallorca - Rochus d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Umag - Moya d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2003 Hamburg - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-2)
2003 Barcelona - Corettja d. Nadal (3-6, 6-2, 6-1)
2003 Monte Carlo - Coria d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2003 Bastad - Lapentti d. Nadal (3-6, 6-3, 7-6)
2003 Stuttgart - Gonzalez d. Nadal (6-2, 3-6, 6-2)
2004 Palermo - Mutis d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2004 Stuttgart - Ferrer d. Nadal (6-3, 6-7, 7-5)
2004 Bastad - Gaudio d. Nadal (6-2, 6-3)
2005 Buenos Aires - Gaudio d. Nadal (0-6, 6-0, 6-1)
2005 Valencia - Andreev d. Nadal (7-5, 6-2)
2007 Hamburg - Federer d. Nadal (2-6, 6-2, 6-0)
2008 Rome - Ferrero d. Nadal (7-5, 6-1)
2009 Madrid - Federer d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2009 FO - Soderling d. Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)
2011 Madrid - Djokovic d. Nadal (7-5, 6-4)
2011 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2012 Madrid - Verdasco d. Nadal (6-3, 3-6, 7-5)
2013 Vina del Mar - Zeballos d. Nadal (6-7, 7-6, 6-4)
2013 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-2, 7-6)
2014 Monte Carlo - Ferrer d. Nadal (7-6, 6-4)
2014 Barcelona - Almagro d. Nadal (2-6, 7-6, 6-4)
2014 Rome - Djokovic d. Nadal (4-6, 6-3, 6-3)
2015 Rio de Janeiro - Fognini d. Nadal (1-6, 6-2, 7-5)
2015 Monte Carlo - Djokovic d. Nadal (6-3, 6-3)
2015 Barcelona - Fognini d. Nadal (6-3, 7-6)
2015 Madrid - Murray d. Nadal (6-3, 6-2)
2015 Rome - Wawrinka d. Nadal (7-6, 6-2)
2015 FO - Djokovic d. Nadal (7-5, 6-3, 6-1)
2016 Buenos Aires Thiem d. Nadal (6-4 4-6 7-6)


31 losses

6 to Djokovic
2 to Federer
2 to Fognini
2 to Ferrer

And 2 to Gaudio.

 

[The Green Mile]

It's 3 to Gaudio.

 

[tennisaddict]

Between 2005-2012 i.e for 8 years, Rafa had only 8 losses.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

My mistake. But I remember from that Trivia thread that there were 6 players with at least 2 wins over him.

 

[veroniquem]

The only important stat in there is that during Rafa's prime on clay: M-C 2005 to 2013 (8 years), he's lost only 9 times to 6 different players. Over the last 2 years, he's already had 10 losses to 7 players.
Decline is no fun.