Nadal's last 12 slams

Hitman

Bionic Poster
AO 2024 - DNP Injured
USO 2023 - DNP Injured
W 2023 - DNP Injured
RG 2023 - DNP Injured
AO 2023 - 2nd round Injured
USO 2022 - 4th round Injured
W 2022 - Semi final withdrawal Injured
RG 2022 - Won
AO 2022 - Won
USO 2021 - DNP Injured
W 2021 - DNP Injured
RG 2021 - Semi final Injured

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socallefty

G.O.A.T.
AO 2024 - DNP Injured
USO 2023 - DNP Injured
W 2023 - DNP Injured
RG 2023 - DNP Injured
AO 2023 - 2nd round Injured
USO 2022 - 4th round Injured
W 2022 - Semi final withdrawal Injured
RG 2022 - Won
AO 2022 - Won
USO 2021 - DNP Injured
W 2021 - DNP Injured
RG 2021 - Semi final Injured

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Sounds like he wins ALL the Slams when he plays and is not injured! The rest of the tour better watch out.

PS: I’m always the type to look for the silver lining in the dark cloud.
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
AO 2024 - DNP Injured
USO 2023 - DNP Injured
W 2023 - DNP Injured
RG 2023 - DNP Injured
AO 2023 - 2nd round Injured
USO 2022 - 4th round Injured
W 2022 - Semi final withdrawal Injured
RG 2022 - Won
AO 2022 - Won
USO 2021 - DNP Injured
W 2021 - DNP Injured
RG 2021 - Semi final Injured

Some are questionable. Was he injured when he double baggeled Gasquet in the 3rd round of the US? He looked fine in this tournament, including against Tiafoe. After the Cincinnati loss against Coric he made it clear he was ready to compete. Sure he wasn't in the form of his life but he was good enough to win 3 matchs and push Tiafoe to 4.
As for RG21, please. Even Nadal himself said he was fine until the middle of the 4th. He bagelled Sinner and Schwartzman the same week. And the 3rd set of this match was arguably one of the best sets in history of tennis. Djokovic would have likely won the 4th set anyway, injury or not. Djokovic himself was dealing with fitness issues earlier in that tournament.

If Nadal can justify his US22 and RG21 defeats because of an injury then Djokovic can use the same excuse for 3/4 of his slam losses, seriously. How many times has Djokovic suffered from some mild issue at one moment in a Grand Slam. I can't even remember one when he was 100% healthy all along. He won AO with a hamstring tear, won RG with elbow issue, made the final in Wimbledon with shoulder pain and called 2 MTO for 2 different reasons at the USO but he still won in the end. EVERY players deal with minor pain, cramps, fatigue and some other issues.. If the minute you feel a small pain you claim you are injured then every players can use this excuse. Fritz was injured as well against Nadal in Wimbledon. Zverev was injured in RG. Fognini was injured in US22 too. Kubler was injured last week and Thiem could still claim he was injured as well. Can I pretend Nadal beat these players because they were injured? I don't think it'd be fair
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Some are questionable. Was he injured when he double baggeled Gasquet in the 3rd round of the US? He looked fine in this tournament, including against Tiafoe. After the Cincinnati loss against Coric he made it clear he was ready to compete. Sure he wasn't in the form of his life but he was good enough to win 3 matchs and push Tiafoe to 4.
As for RG21, please. Even Nadal himself said he was fine until the middle of the 4th. He bagelled Sinner and Schwartzman the same week. And the 3rd set of this match was arguably one of the best sets in history of tennis. Djokovic would have likely won the 4th set anyway, injury or not.

If Nadal can justify his US22 and RG21 defeats because of an injury then Djokovic can use the same excuse for 3/4 of his slam losses, seriously. How many times has Djokovic suffered from some mild issue at one moment in a Grand Slam. I can't even remember one when he was 100% healthy all along. He won AO with a hamstring tear, won RG with elbow issue, made the final in Wimbledon with shoulder pain and called 2 MTO for 2 different reasons at the USO but he still won in the end. EVERY players deal with minor pain, cramps, fatigue and some other issues.. If the minute you feel a small pain you claim you are injured then every players can use this excuse. Fritz was injured as well against Nadal in Wimbledon. Zverev was injured in RG. Fognini was injured in US22 too. Kubler was injured last week and Thiem could still claim he was injured as well. Can I pretend Nadal beat these players because they were injured? I don't think it'd be fair

Nadal couldn't serve at USO 2022, his abdominal tear was clearly impacting it.

Nadal very likely would still have lost RG 2021, but he did get injured in the closing moments of the match. At 2-2 in the fourth set, he was done and unable to move.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Some are questionable.
I agree with you about RG2021 and USO2022. I don’t recall anyone in the media talking about his injury prior to the match or commentators talking about it much during the loss. I didn’t see him hampered when I watched those matches on TV also. Most of the injury ‘news’ leaked out after the loss from his camp. I was being lightly sarcastic when I said that he wins every Slam when he is uninjured. This is unlike Wimbledon 2022 when you could clearly see that he was injured against Fritz.
 

Purestriker

Legend
Same same but different.

Novak wins slams with injuries.
Really? Which one did he win that elbow that had to be surgically repaired?

He is without a doubt an incredible athlete but don’t be delusional. Father time comes for us all and some injuries you cant play through.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
I agree with you about RG2021 and USO2022. I don’t recall anyone in the media talking about his injury prior to the match or commentators talking about it much during the loss. I didn’t see him hampered when I watched those matches on TV also. Most of the injury ‘news’ leaked out after the loss from his camp. I was being lightly sarcastic when I said that he wins every Slam when he is uninjured. This is unlike Wimbledon 2022 when you could clearly see that he was injured against Fritz.
Was he injured vs Soderling
 

jl809

Legend
that’s rough seeing it written out like that. After RG 20 there has been a definite shift. Even AO 21 I think he was complaining about something even before the tournament started
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
that’s rough seeing it written out like that. After RG 20 there has been a definite shift. Even AO 21 I think he was complaining about something even before the tournament started
Very rough. Its his previous years where he pushed his body BEYOND limits which is now hurting him. He had most grueling game of all time.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
No, he wouldn't. I would lead the slam count if not for laziness.
That is a logical fallacy (wrong argument) known as appeal to ridicule, which consists in presenting the opponent's argument as ridiculous or humorous to avoid giving serious consideration to it.

You, a person with 0 Slams, 0 ATP matches and older than Nadovic, literally have no chance to win any Slam, let alone getting the Slam record, whether you're lazy or not.

Nadal, on the other hand, is a player with 22 Slams (only 2 less than the current GS holder and only 11 months younger than him). Rafael has been injured in 10 out of the last 12 Slams in a row. It is, therefore, logical to assume that in a hypothetical world where he doesn't get injured in, let's say, 9-10 of those 12 Slams, he would have a realistic, even strong, chance to lead the Slam count.

Of course, it is an untestable, therefore invalid comment. Nadal is indeed a prone to injury tennis player and that is the reality.

But the untestable claim "Nadal would lead the Slam race if not for injuries", despite being untestable and invalid, is not absurd. It is plausible. On the other hand, your claim "I would lead the Slam race if I weren't so lazy" is absurd and non-plausible.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
That is a logical fallacy (wrong argument) known as appeal to ridicule, which consists in presenting the opponent's argument as ridiculous or humorous to avoid giving serious consideration to it.

You, a person with 0 Slams, 0 ATP matches and older than Nadovic, literally have no chance to win any Slam, let alone getting the Slam record, whether you're lazy or not.

Nadal, on the other hand, is a player with 22 Slams (only 2 less than the current GS holder and only 11 months younger than him). Rafael has been injured in 10 out of the last 12 Slams in a row. It is, therefore, logical to assume that in a hypothetical world where he doesn't get injured in, let's say, 9-10 of those 12 Slams, he would have a realistic, even strong, chance to lead the Slam count.

Of course, it is an untestable, therefore invalid comment. Nadal is indeed a prone to injury tennis player and that is the reality.

But the untestable claim "Nadal would lead the Slam race if not for injuries", despite being untestable and invalid, is not absurd. It is plausible. On the other hand, your claim "I would lead the Slam race if I weren't so lazy" is absurd and non-plausible.
It's not absurd and it is plausible, I agree.
It's just the certainty while making the claim I find ridiculous and goofy, not the claim itself.

+ If your own body prevents you from winning a slam, you're not good enough to win a slam. Because of that, the reasoning behind "uninjured Rafa could win more" can be logically reduced to "If he was able to win more, he would be able to win more". Yeah, we have circulus vitiosus right there.
 
AO 2024 - DNP Injured
USO 2023 - DNP Injured
W 2023 - DNP Injured
RG 2023 - DNP Injured
AO 2023 - 2nd round Injured
USO 2022 - 4th round Injured
W 2022 - Semi final withdrawal Injured
RG 2022 - Won
AO 2022 - Won
USO 2021 - DNP Injured
W 2021 - DNP Injured
RG 2021 - Semi final Injured

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Very interesting when looking at your other thread about djokovics recent slam results. Seems the most successful period of djokovics career coincides with nadal being injured for the last 3 years in the main.
 
It's not absurd and it is plausible, I agree.
It's just the certainty while making the claim I find ridiculous and goofy, not the claim itself.

+ If your own body prevents you from winning a slam, you're not good enough to win a slam. Because of that, the reasoning behind "uninjured Rafa could win more" can be logically reduced to "If he was able to win more, he would be able to win more". Yeah, we have circulus vitiosus right there.
Most successful doesnt equate to greatest. Nadal will be judged in what he did when active. At the slams at least nobody won more while he was playing. Post 2020 as another thread on here clearly shows he wasnt able to play much the past couple of years.
 

Phoenix*

Professional
Most successful doesnt equate to greatest. Nadal will be judged in what he did when active. At the slams at least nobody won more while he was playing. Post 2020 as another thread on here clearly shows he wasnt able to play much the past couple of years.
At the clay slams you mean. 2 people won more hard and grass slams than him while he was playing.
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
I agree with you about RG2021 and USO2022. I don’t recall anyone in the media talking about his injury prior to the match or commentators talking about it much during the loss. I didn’t see him hampered when I watched those matches on TV also. Most of the injury ‘news’ leaked out after the loss from his camp. I was being lightly sarcastic when I said that he wins every Slam when he is uninjured. This is unlike Wimbledon 2022 when you could clearly see that he was injured against Fritz.

As far as I remember, It was only days after the Tiafoe match that he revealed his abs weren't completely healed. Before and after the match, there was no injury talk. Was he lying? No. But would he have beaten Tiafoe Rublev and Alcaraz? And 1 month later he was in Paris and completely healthy. I can buy that he wasn't at the top of his game during US22, but "injured"? In Wimbledon Fritz had a serious knee pain as well, both players were clearly struggling.

OP isn't wrong but yet Nadal wasn't favorite of any of these slams anyway. AO22 was a miracle and nothing can convince me he would have won the title if Djokovic hadn't been deported. Nadal hasn't been favorite of any non clay slam for years. The only conter example was US2022 because Djokovic/Zverev weren't playing, Medvedev was in poor form and Sinneraz weren't at the level they are today... Nadal had a cakewalk draw and still didn't win it. Injuries aren't the main reason why he doesn't win these slams. Even for RG2023, it's still a risky bet to claim he would've won. He lost 2 of the last 4 matches against Djokovic in Paris, and barely won the last one in 2022... And Djokovic 2023 was a much better player than in RG2022. At the end of the day I doubt the slam race would be different even with a healthy Nadal.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
As far as I remember, It was only days after the Tiafoe match that he revealed his abs weren't completely healed. Before and after the match, there was no injury talk. Was he lying? No. But would he have beaten Tiafoe Rublev and Alcaraz? And 1 month later he was in Paris and completely healthy. I can buy that he wasn't at the top of his game during US22, but "injured"? In Wimbledon Fritz had a serious knee pain as well, both players were clearly struggling.

OP isn't wrong but yet Nadal wasn't favorite of any of these slams anyway. AO22 was a miracle and nothing can convince me he would have won the title if Djokovic hadn't been deported. Nadal hasn't been favorite of any non clay slam for years. The only conter example was US2022 because Djokovic/Zverev weren't playing, Medvedev was in poor form and Sinneraz weren't at the level they are today... Nadal had a cakewalk draw and still didn't win it. Injuries aren't the main reason why he doesn't win these slams. Even for RG2023, it's still a risky bet to claim he would've won. He lost 2 of the last 4 matches against Djokovic in Paris, and barely won the last one in 2022... And Djokovic 2023 was a much better player than in RG2022. At the end of the day I doubt the slam race would be different even with a healthy Nadal.
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esvc

Semi-Pro
AO 2024 - DNP Injured
USO 2023 - DNP Injured
W 2023 - DNP Injured
RG 2023 - DNP Injured
AO 2023 - 2nd round Injured
USO 2022 - 4th round Injured
W 2022 - Semi final withdrawal Injured
RG 2022 - Won with multiple Injections
AO 2022 - Won
USO 2021 - DNP Injured
W 2021 - DNP Injured
RG 2021 - Semi final Injured

ftfy
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Most successful doesnt equate to greatest. Nadal will be judged in what he did when active. At the slams at least nobody won more while he was playing. Post 2020 as another thread on here clearly shows he wasnt able to play much the past couple of years.
Nadal IS active, Nadal IS playing.
Novak won more at the slams during Nadal's career.
Unable to play = Not good enough to win = less great player.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
When was the last non-clay slam won where he beat Djokovic on-route to win the title?

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When was the last time Djokovic won US open beating Nadal? Oh wait, Djokovic was busy losing to Stan when Nadal played and win after 2019 Nadal skipped 2 USO and was injured in one. Let's not act Djokovic is as dominant elsewhere as he's at AO. They played Wimbledon 2018 and it went to 5 sets.
 
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