Nadal's performance this Davis Cup enhancing GOAT credentials?

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
This week for Davis Cup will work perfectly for Nadal in future .

Flop early at WTF and be here at home with crowd support for Davis Cup.
 

TimHenmanATG

Hall of Fame
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
Did you see the manner in which Serbia were knocked out?
Nah. I haven't watched one second of this farce.

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
There is definitely great national pride just to be clear, but not every reaction from the Serbs is related to the past injustices that the western scum in power delivered. Or to put it better, if anyone is mature enough to not have spite as their main motivation, it's these athletes.
I don't know why you seem to be misunderstanding my comment.

It's obvious that Serbian sportspeople know that they have an obligation to positively represent their nation on an international stage.


Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
But don't question the commitment of participants, young or old, to this event that still means a lot to them. They obviously care, which makes the competition at least a little bigger than an exhibition. Otherwise they wouldn't have sacrificed a week of what is a short off season to begin with.
There's no "commitment" to question.

It's an exho tournament with nothing serious riding on it.

Some participants will take it more seriously than others.
 

TimHenmanATG

Hall of Fame
I think the man from Serbia over here said this better than me. But I think it is time we start to stop looking at Serbs as if they have this sign over their head. I know Serbs that are really tired of being related to that war all the time. Move on.
It's got nothing to do with how you, I, or any other individual sees it.

It's down to general cultural perception. Serbia were portrayed as the "bad guys" during the 1990s, and a lot of that negative mud still sticks in cultural attitudes throughout many Western countries.

Is it any wonder that people from the country have a particular interest in portraying a positive image of their country on the international stage?
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal has lost 1 singles match in his entire Davis Cup career.

Levels!
not to mention that the rusty peak injured golden bull was always there when spain received azerbaidjan, liechtenstein or any monster team on clay, regardless of the danger.

the fact that he's been curiously absent for a certain number of indoor ties (e.g. vs USA and argentina, when davis cup was still davis cup) is probably just an unfortunate coincidence...
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
not to mention that the rusty peak injured golden bull was always there when spain received azerbaidjan, liechtenstein or any monster team on clay, regardless of the danger.

the fact that he's been curiously absent for a certain number of indoor ties (e.g. vs USA and argentina, when davis cup was still davis cup) is probably just an unfortunate coincidence...

He's single handedly gotten Spain to this year's Davis Cup final on an indoor hardcourt. He's been the best player of the tournament by miles.

He's won 4 Davis Cups (possibly 5 by tommorow). Your salt is misplaced.
 
He's single handedly gotten Spain to this year's Davis Cup final on an indoor hardcourt. He's been the best player of the tournament by miles.

He's won 4 Davis Cups (possibly 5 by tommorow). Your salt is misplaced.
Before 2019 Davis Cup

Career Davis Cup Non-Clay singles matches:

Ferrer - 15
Lopez - 11
Verdasco - 9
Robredo - 9
Agut - 8
PCB - 5 (1 more HC than Nadal)
Nadal - 6 (4 HC/2 Carpet)
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
Nadal has shown tremendous fight and character in this Davis Cup.
But one can't help feel that this will cost Rafa in AO 2020.
The problem is that this extra push at the end of the year, if it means fewer slams in 2020 would considerably damage Nadal's GOAT claim. History has shown that Nadal is best at AO when he is well rested with a long off season.

So while Nadal is doing extraordinary and creditable things in the DC, the harsh reality is that only slams matter and this tournament is inconsequential. Nadal may very well pay the price early next year...
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Nadal has shown tremendous fight and character in this Davis Cup.
But one can't help feel that this will cost Rafa in AO 2020.
The problem is that this extra push at the end of the year, if it means fewer slams in 2020 would considerably damage Nadal's GOAT claim. History has shown that Nadal is best at AO when he is well rested with a long off season.

So while Nadal is doing extraordinary and creditable things in the DC, the harsh reality is that only slams matter and this tournament is inconsequential. Nadal may very well pay the price early next year...
Nadal if anything has shown me this year he needs less recovery time than ever. He will be fine, well over a month till the AO
 

Sabrina

Hall of Fame
Nadal if anything has shown me this year he needs less recovery time than ever. He will be fine, well over a month till the AO
He will have more than a month of resting. He will be fine I think. In the last 2 years he had more rest and still came to AO underprepared.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
It's impressive how much Nadal tries in this tournament, can't deny it. But enough is enough. Today is the last day of the season, then it will be time to rest. Well, the last day of the season involves the world number 1, sounds right. :D

But honestly, all the other players in their team are very weak and are not helping at all. Nadal has to do all the work himself. And today it's going to be tougher than before as Shapovalov seems like a pretty bad matchup for him.
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
What happened to staying out of or ignoring topics you have no interest in?

People like to talk about the G topic. You won't stop it by jumping in threads to give a righteous "tut-tut" about it. Just comes off pretentious and designed to make you look above it all.
I am above the G-word debate... just not the "tiger" debate. :sneaky:
 

aditya123

Hall of Fame
Nadal has shown tremendous fight and character in this Davis Cup.
But one can't help feel that this will cost Rafa in AO 2020.
The problem is that this extra push at the end of the year, if it means fewer slams in 2020 would considerably damage Nadal's GOAT claim. History has shown that Nadal is best at AO when he is well rested with a long off season.

So while Nadal is doing extraordinary and creditable things in the DC, the harsh reality is that only slams matter and this tournament is inconsequential. Nadal may very well pay the price early next year...
There you are . You never fail to find something negative in Rafa
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
The courts have been jam-packed the last two days. And the atmosphere for some of these ties have been electric.

The format clearly works. Sorting out attendence in earlier ties is a very fixable thing for the next time. I think some people were just excited at the negative early press and don't want to acknowledge that the tournament has fully come alive.
But the format clearly does NOT work in the US when we can't even see the matches without paying an extra fee. I'd love to see the finals, and I wanted to see the semis. But I'm not going to pay extra money. I suppose it would be different if the US tennis program was not such a miserable failure.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
The best thing I see in DC is not DC itself but what it's bound to do for Rafa's confidence if he remains healthy. With these matches under his belt and some rest coming up he could be dangerous as hell this year at the AO.
 

ibbi

Legend
To be honest I just wish he was at home resting. The fact he is playing this much this late in the season is mind boggling (in both good and bad ways, I guess) I find it painful every time he steps out on court, and the fact he's playing doubles as well, and finds himself with these late finishes?? :rolleyes: For the love of god Rafa, just go home. You are, as you say, not with twenty anymore.

Frickin' Spanish superstar organizes this tournament and hosts it in Spain and of course he's lured into taking part. It's so annoying.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Oddly enough we don't seem to talk about Davis Cup much when considering the greatest player of all time, but perhaps we ought to more.

More people are finding out Nadal's Davis Cup record is insane and means he probably the greatest ever player in the competition.

But his performance this week has been ridiculous. He's almost like a one-man team for Spain, willing them to victory in doubles and singles. This may be the best sustained effort I've seen from Nadal, and that is saying a lot.

Win or lose against Canada in the final tomorrow, Nadal's epicness in this Davis Cup has been the highlight of the tournament and won't soon be forgotten.
Have you not noticed that any aspect of tennis that leaves Fed in the shadows is generally ignored, such as singles Olympics and DC.
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
He's single handedly gotten Spain to this year's Davis Cup final on an indoor hardcourt. He's been the best player of the tournament by miles.

He's won 4 Davis Cups (possibly 5 by tommorow). Your salt is misplaced.
He will lose to Shapovalov, sorry to tell you.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
To be honest I just wish he was at home resting. The fact he is playing this much this late in the season is mind boggling (in both good and bad ways, I guess) I find it painful every time he steps out on court, and the fact he's playing doubles as well, and finds himself with these late finishes?? :rolleyes: For the love of god Rafa, just go home. You are, as you say, not with twenty anymore.

Frickin' Spanish superstar organizes this tournament and hosts it in Spain and of course he's lured into taking part. It's so annoying.
Isn't it nuts he's still out there? Lol I tell you what, the day Nadal retires, we can all agree, the man earned his rest! :D

 

ibbi

Legend
Isn't it nuts he's still out there? Lol I tell you what, the day Nadal retires, we can all agree, the man earned his rest! :D

Yes, it's not so long ago that the guy was pretty much finished after the US Open, and now look at him. Still going strong as December approaches. :oops: He needs to rest up before heading down under! He's old!
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Yes, it's not so long ago that the guy was pretty much finished after the US Open, and now look at him. Still going strong as December approaches. :oops: He needs to rest up before heading down under! He's old!
Lol he used to be finished after Wimbledon :-D this late career resurgence with the new style of game is amazing and paying hella dividends

How about we just enjoy Rafa's performance without worrying about Goat shenanigans.

Sincerely

Red Rick, proud VB, MM and NF resident, as well as ABFP.
And let us eat popcorn chicken damnit
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
It's not "ending brilliantly" at all, because no-one gives a cr*p about it.

The stadium is empty unless Spain is playing.

The fact that even Andy Murray had to implore people to attend, tells you everything you need to know about this disastrous exho.
Andy Murray was complaining about attendance in China couple of months ago. Whose fault is it that Djokovic and Murray are not able to pull in the crowd like Rafa & Fedr do wherever they play around the world?
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Nah. I haven't watched one second of this farce.
That certainly explains why you called their emotional reaction some sort of a Serbian thing rather than looking at the context of their elimination.
I don't know why you seem to be misunderstanding my comment.

It's obvious that Serbian sportspeople know that they have an obligation to positively represent their nation on an international stage.
The sadness that Serbian tennis players showed this week wasn't because they thought they represented the nation negatively though. Djokovic on his own has had such a positive impact over the years anyway, no amount of heartbreaking DC losses would ever change his country's image for the worse.
There's no "commitment" to question.

It's an exho tournament with nothing serious riding on it.

Some participants will take it more seriously than others.
They all took it seriously as an important team competition just like in the years before. You suggesting Davis Cup took a nosedive this year when it has been uneventful for years already and repeatedly shouting it's an exho from your sofa won't change that.
 

jackdaw

Rookie
EPO a helluva drug.....
I can imagine the scum in that crowd, even the rich people in Spain are classless pieces of **** - Nadal will be right at home, literally and figuratively ...
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
The last time Fedr was YE #1 was 10 years ago!
And he still set the record for the most crowd turnover yesterday.

He managed to get in one evening (42517) what Nadal has not been able to get all week in his own home turf. True indicator of who the greatest is in the minds and heart of the public
 
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