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You think Federer? or Fed would have lost his own too by that time for the same reason?
Nadal's performance this Davis Cup enhancing GOAT credentials?
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youngpolyhater
Rookie
Federer doesn't have unlimited stamina like the mallorcan so chances of that happening to him are 0%
The biggest conundrum would be 2005 RG final
Two armstronged players.Interesting decisions lie ahead
ForumMember
Hall of Fame
Did you sleep through W final this year? Federer at 38 has more stamina than he had at 28 and it seems to be increasing only with each passing year.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa hasn't been a client of the doctor, who worked for a Swiss company.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
Both Federer and Djokovic have holes in their resume, too, certainly. Of course, the fans of any tennis player ought to survive any record of their favorite.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Glad you've got so much time on your hands for the Great Rafael Nadal.Blanketed drivel.
2013:
This was pretty much a full season and a great one at that. Missing the Aussie Open but still going 75-7 with 10 titles and 2 slams should more than makes up for it
Nadal skipped World Group 1st Rd. vs Canada on Indoor HC that was held from Feb 1-3. Played Vina Del Mar (Clay 250) that began on Feb 4. LOL and made the final. Ok, you'll say he was recovering from the back injury in 2012 yada yada right?
Spain slips into Relegation Playoff that Nadal shows up for of course since it's Madrid Clay. Stomps the ever living hell out of Stakhovsky 6-0 6-0 6-4..... 2013 FAIL because it was a full season for the most part and DC was not truly missed due to injury.
2014:
I'm going to give him 2014 even though I have some doubts. It was the back, then the wrist, then appendicitis, then stem cell therapy lol. Regardless, he had his reasons that year at every turn. It wasn't meant for him to play after Wimbledon it seemed. Btw, I'm not laughing at the injuries. It was just the way they unfolded at the time. 2014 PASS
2015:
A recovery year of sorts with patchy play. True that he was healthy and played a full season as you mentioned. Spain was in big trouble at this point in DC after a miserable 2013-14 (some of it unnecessarily). Nadal did well in Stuttgart, claimed the title, but fell short in Queens to Dolgo in the 1st round obviously wanting matches since he was playing both warm ups. Wouldn't you agree? Wimbledon is a disaster as Dustin Brown pulls off the upset over Nadal in the 2nd rd. Nadal takes a straight month off before playing and winning Hamburg (Clay of course). The week before that, which was three weeks after Wimbledon, Spain desperately needed Nadal vs Russia with only Robredo and Andujar basically. Maybe it was a case of underestimating Russia or maybe not. I can't recall now, but he could've shown up to help them dig out of the hole. Especially being healthy with 3 weeks rest and knowing Spain could use him. Btw that was Indoor HC. Later on he finally stepped up to play on Indoor HC vs powerhouse Denmark who hasn't been in the World Group for nearly 25 years. He faced Mikael Torpegaard, a journeyman with a career high ranking of #170 which he just achieved this year in 2019. Has never made it out of qualifying rounds at slams. Won a couple challengers. Nadal thumped the guy for his first Indoor HC DC match/win since 2011 when he defeated Olivier Rochus lol. Now, 2016 will be spent trying to make it back to World Group. I have to go with FAIL here because of that.
2016:
Skips Zone Group vs Romania who offers up an inspired Copil as their Top Gun. Lopez holds him off and RBA/PCB handle the other no names after Lopez & Co. gift the doubles match away. Easy Indoor HC win. A missed chance for Nadal to make it appear that he tried to play something besides clay at DC. Normally, this would be that chance. Sadly, Nadal injured his wrist at RG along with Federer (knee) shortly thereafter and sent the tennis world into Darkness for a few months. I genuinely felt sorry for Nadal. Even more sad after Federer went down at Wimbledon. Could it be over for both of them? Bad times for a little while there. Anyhow, Nadal showed up to play doubles vs India later in the year. You know it's gravy when Marc Lopez plays singles and Nadal plays doubles with a 5-0 score. Nadal could have just stayed home, but a HC win even in doubles is better than nothing I guess. Hang with the boys and celebrate returning to the World Group. A positive moment for Spain, but since Nadal made no difference at all in the outcome of these matches it must be ruled a FAIL. Easy matches yes, but in the ghetto all year thanks to Rafa.
2017:
New life
Nadal is back from the dead at AO. All is well in Nadal World again with the exception of Federer NEO BH raining down on the Bull. He is ready for anyone, anywhere, anytime, except for Federer
2018:
Playing the British on clay LMAO, stay home Rafa and heal the hip.Too soon. Germany was coming up in 3 months and almost exactly 3 months later Nadal decided he wanted to play tennis again lol. DC on Clay was his moment to shine and help bring the trophy back home to Spain possibly.He might as well since every time he wins a slam, Roger does too. Two birds, one stone. Clay Prep & DC to wipe away 3 months of HC avoidance. After going on to fully recover and have yet another great clay season, Nadal also plays his best Wimbledon in years making the SF. After that he wins Canada Masters and is a favorite to win UO. Unfortunately, Nadal retired with a knee injury vs Delpo in the UO SF. He would not make be able to make the DC SF vs France that was only a few days away. This year will PASS because I give Nadal the benefit of the doubt injury wise with it being a Slam SF. I will remind everyone once more that this was Indoor HC. Man, that guy is good
aditya123
Hall of Fame
If you find solace in your opinion, let be it so in your world!!!!Checked out this thread and the VB are raving that winning thia Davis Cup equates to winning the YEC
NatF
Bionic Poster
I'm just admiring the cognitive dissonance on display here. On the one hand the YEC is just an exho and does nothing for the legacy of players like Federer and Djokovic yet on the other Nadal running through a watered down Davis Cup event on indoor hard enhances his GOAT credentials. Can't make this stuff up.
But if you enjoy this circle jerk then carry on...
Tennis_Hands
Banned
The BIG difference is that at the WTF you can lose a match and still win the event, and in Davis Cup ..... oh, wait!
aditya123
Hall of Fame
Well you must know very well who are the inventors of "disregarding few events which dont fit in your fav players resume". At least in this thread it wasn't started by vb
NatF
Bionic Poster
octogon is a total VB'er. Quite obvious from his posts.
And those that want to disregard clay are wrong obviously. That doesn't make the double standards plastered all over this thread smell any sweeter...
PeoplesChamp
Legend
My grammar is slightly better since edited and you are correct that yesterday I had too much time on my hands. Explaining the habits of the Nadal in detail over several years can be a tedious job. The next time I write something that long won't be until the Big 3 retire or have a fist fight on court to decide GOAT.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
Checked out this thread and the VB are raving that winning thia Davis Cup equates to winning the YEC
i just think its so funny how many issues were being talked about regarding this new davis cup, which all seemed to be erased by spain winning basically a home tie and i love how no one thinks its hilarious that its going to be in the same location yet again next year but w/e apparently spain winning just erases everything.
also im not knocking on nadal because he was playing super well, but he's also backed by a much more solid team. i always found interesting how he's become the poster child of davis cup when fed has actually played far more ties, many of them actually away from home. i suppose at teh end the wins matter and nadal/spain do have more wins.
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