Nadal's String and Tension

Lovely_Bone

Rookie
Hopefully this puts the questions to rest as to what type of string Rafa really uses. I think his tension was already pretty widely known.

 

NikeWilson

Semi-Pro
I knew he was using RPM Blast for sure.
I didn't know what his tension was, but 55 lbs is interesting.
I've only used RPM Blast in my Mains of a hybrid(with SynGut crosses). I strung it at 58 lbs, and it worked beautifully.
I imagine a full bed of RPM at 55 lbs is slightly on the highside, but it is a soft comfortable string for a Poly, so I'm not too surprised.
 

Lovely_Bone

Rookie
I knew he was using RPM Blast for sure.
I didn't know what his tension was, but 55 lbs is interesting.
I've only used RPM Blast in my Mains of a hybrid(with SynGut crosses). I strung it at 58 lbs, and it worked beautifully.
I imagine a full bed of RPM at 55 lbs is slightly on the highside, but it is a soft comfortable string for a Poly, so I'm not too surprised.
Yeah, a lot of people were debating as to whether or not he used black pro hurricanes or rpm. I think there was also another type of string that people thought he may be losing. Cool to know that it's RPM for sure.
 

sixone90

Professional
Well back when he was using Duralast, his stringing details showed PHT so that sticker isn't going to prove definitively what he uses. But I do tend to believe he actually uses RPM 1.35mm
 

[d]ragon

Hall of Fame
I really want to stress that Nadal as well as every other pro does not stick to a single tension. Rather, they change their tension depending on conditions such as surface, temperature, humidity, ect.
 

ericsson

Hall of Fame
Well back when he was using Duralast, his stringing details showed PHT so that sticker isn't going to prove definitively what he uses. But I do tend to believe he actually uses RPM 1.35mm
That is correct, on the strings it says Hurricane Tour 1.35 but still was Duralast...
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
I don't particularly want to play with a 1.35 string but it must be a very different racquet than my 1.24 one.
 

xFullCourtTenniSx

Hall of Fame
Yeah, a lot of people were debating as to whether or not he used black pro hurricanes or rpm. I think there was also another type of string that people thought he may be losing. Cool to know that it's RPM for sure.
He never used Pro Hurricane Tour. He used Duralast. His strings were printed to say PHT, but EVERYTHING else about them was different. There was a comparison photo on it.

Tension was universally known to be 55 lbs (or 25 kg). Duralast was pretty universally accepted to be his strings until he switched to RPM Blast. Though I was never big on Rafa's equipment other than racket specs, which probably haven't changed, so I'm not the one you'd ask about what his actual strings are.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
The image is from this video from babolat, it's 720p so maybe someone wants to look for other clues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuUc5jyrn8w

At 1.38 you can clearly see it says RPM Blast. But it definitely isn't RPM Blast since that string should be octogonal, no?

He's probably still using Duralast 15L, but painted black to look like RPM Blast.
 
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sixone90

Professional
The image is from this video from babolat, it's 720p so maybe someone wants to look for other clues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuUc5jyrn8w

At 1.38 you can clearly see it says RPM Blast. But it definitely isn't RPM Blast since that string should be octogonal, no?

He's probably still using Duralast 15L, but painted black to look like RPM Blast.
Have you ever seen RPM Blast? You can't really see the octagonal shape with the naked eye
 
Just to finally draw this topic to a conclusion, below are a couple of quotes from uk_skippy and jazar. Both are members of the Babolat and Wimbledon Stringing Teams:

The string he is using is RPM Blast. How do I know this? Because I've strung some of his rqts. Why is RPM and not his original duralast in black? Because you can feel the texture of the current string, something the duralast doesn't have.

While I understand your point, I can assure that all what I'm telling you is not an opinion, but fact! An opinion would be 'I believe he is using RPM because Babolat have told me that's what he's using'; the fact is 'I know he's using RPM as I've actually strung some of his rqts. Please also be assured that I am a member of a Babolat stringing team, and that I'm also member of the Wimbledon stringing team. I'll deal with facts of rqts & strings that I've used while being a member of those teams irrespective of the brands.
Like Paul, I am on the Wimbledon and Babolat stringing teams, and he is 100% right. Nadal uses RPM Blast 1.35. Babolat have told us this and we have both strung his rackets.
I have also handled his rackets and would like to add that his string is marked "Babolat RPM Blast 15L". Regarding tension, he usually strings at 25.0 KGS. All 56 rackets that were strung for him at Roland Garros this year were at that tension.

Hope this can be of help,

ProStringing
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
At 1.38 you can clearly see it says RPM Blast. But it definitely isn't RPM Blast since that string should be octogonal, no?

He's probably still using Duralast 15L, but painted black to look like RPM Blast.
It's definitely RPM Blast 1.35mm; see post above this one.

Regards

Paul
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Well of course Babolat are saying that he's using RPM, just like they're saying that he's using the latest APD. Their word deosn't really mean much.
 

ricki

Hall of Fame
If babolat had machine to cast 1.35 mm gauge of RPM Blast why they dont sell it? They have machine just to make few reels per year??? It seems to me like some advertisement cheat, maybe he really uses PHT or Duralast?
 
Lots of companies manufacture string they don't sell at regular retail yet it is available to their tour players and in other limited instances. I've played with Tour Bite 15 and Pro Stacked 15L from Solinco. Neither one is a gauge available at retail however they clearly produce it.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
Well of course Babolat are saying that he's using RPM, just like they're saying that he's using the latest APD. Their word deosn't really mean much.
What proof do you want that he's using it, given that 3 tournament stringers who've strung Nadal's rqts confirm that its Blast 1.35mm??

Regards

Paul
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
What proof do you want that he's using it, given that 3 tournament stringers who've strung Nadal's rqts confirm that its Blast 1.35mm??

Regards

Paul
If you could feel or see the octagonal shape. Then I would believe you :) But now it seems like Bab just gave you a set of strings and told you it was RPM.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
If you could feel or see the octagonal shape. Then I would believe you :) But now it seems like Bab just gave you a set of strings and told you it was RPM.
On the 1.35mm RPM Blast that I've strung Nadal's rqts with, you can feel the shape. The shape is not so pronounced on the gauges below due to the unique octagonal shape of the string; and the same goes for Pro Hurricane Tour.

Of course, Babolat don't give me the string; Nadal himself will give a reel or two at the beginning of the tournament.

So, your statement of "If you could feel or see the octagonal shape. Then I would believe you" becomes true as obviously I'd need to handle it when I was stringing Nadal's rqt!

Believe me now??

Regards

Paul
 

ricki

Hall of Fame
What proof do you want that he's using it, given that 3 tournament stringers who've strung Nadal's rqts confirm that its Blast 1.35mm??

Regards

Paul
Did they make some material expertise od did they play with his strings?
 

Rafaboy

Rookie
What proof do you want that he's using it, given that 3 tournament stringers who've strung Nadal's rqts confirm that its Blast 1.35mm??

Regards

Paul
Ok BUT...heres the big question nobody seems to realize...

WHICH RPM BLAST?? (there are now three versions of this string available)
 

ricki

Hall of Fame
Not sure what you're asking??

And as for the 3 tournament strings I referred to, I included myself as 1 of those 3.

Regards

Paul
So you touch the string with your fingers during stringing and you KNOW that it is really RPM? Basically every poly strings feel same in hands.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
So you touch the string with your fingers during stringing and you KNOW that it is really RPM? Basically every poly strings feel same in hands.
You can touch and tell with RPM Blast just like you can with Alu Power Rough strings.

They're not circular.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
Ok BUT...heres the big question nobody seems to realize...

WHICH RPM BLAST?? (there are now three versions of this string available)
There is only 1 Version of RPM Blast, with 3 different, public available guages (1.2mm, 1.25mm & 1.3mm). 1.35mm is only available to pro players i.e. Nadal.

There are 3 versions of RPM - RPM Blast, RPM Team & RPM Dual.

So you touch the string with your fingers during stringing and you KNOW that it is really RPM? Basically every poly strings feel same in hands.
I touch the string with my fingers and I know its RPM Blast. Not every poly feels the same in your hands. Dunlop Black widow does not feel the same as Luxilon ALU Power. 1 is shaped with 'sharp' edges, the other is smooth. There are triangluar, pentagonal, hexagonal, octagonal shaped polys, none of which will feel the same as a traditional round string.

Regards

paul
 
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DefensiveTennis

Guest
I was told by a stringer that he has talked to guys who are on tour and they are saying Nadal is using Black Code.
 

jelle v

Hall of Fame
1.35?!?!

Wow.. why would he use a 1.35 string :confused: Obvious answer of course would be that a thinner gauge breaks quicker, but come to think about it, I rarely (never?) see Nadal breaking strings.. With enough rackets in his bag, he would be save i would assume.. :-|

Of course maybe he just likes the feel of a 1.35 gauge string... That would be a strange notion for me..
 
More spin. More string material comes in contact with the ball with the right space in string pattern.

Ball dives into the string bed and is "lifted up" more effectivly with a thicker string.

KR
I have read that round polys produce more spin at thinner gauges (because it bites the ball more and the thicker string is slipping over the ball) but with the "edgy" strings thicker gauges produce more spin because it has bigger edges. most modern polys have edges so that might be an explanation.
 

MachiA.

Banned
I have read that round polys produce more spin at thinner gauges (because it bites the ball more and the thicker string is slipping over the ball) but with the "edgy" strings thicker gauges produce more spin because it has bigger edges. most modern polys have edges so that might be an explanation.
There are different "schools" in this question.
I tried both. Thicker=more spin.
The "bite argument" is popular, but "more material" on the ball gives more action on the ball.

Of course technique is the most important.

KR
 
There are different "schools" in this question.
I tried both. Thicker=more spin.
The "bite argument" is popular, but "more material" on the ball gives more action on the ball.

Of course technique is the most important.

KR
I think the arguement was that with a round poly the string gets "flatter" (bigger "smoother" radius) and thus not gripping that ball as well as a thin string which "cuts" the felt.

with a textured poly the thicker string gets more edgy and thus grips the ball better.
 

MachiA.

Banned
I compared thicker and thinner round poly of the same model.

I can not support the "bite" theory with round thinner polys.

Maybe because the snap back of thicker polys is also more explosive, because the thicker ones are stiffer.

KR
 

raging

Professional
yes, great post from Jamie!
Blunt but to the point.
A spade is a Bloody shovel...:twisted:

The internet can be cruel but some posters could do some research.

Paul and Jamie are both stringing pro player's rackets, they have no reason to lie.
 
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