Nadal's weakness - forehand?

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Fedexeon

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Well, you may say that i don't know much about tennis. I know that Nadal is known for his topspin forehand but in his recent matches against Hewitt and Davydenko, they both decided to attack his forehand rather than his backhand and it kind of worked.

To me, it seems that his backhand is more consistent than his forehand, making less unforced errors. Hewitt and Davydenko hit crosscourt shots to his forehand and then hit an extreme angle crosscourt shot to end the point. Federer did that yesterday with his crosscourt backhand(finally he didn't try to hit down the line back to Nadal's backhand) and it worked.

Thoughts?
 
Nadal_Freak

Nadal_Freak

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I wouldn't take anything out of this match. Nadal just didn't have the juice needed to win this match. Go back to the French Open of last year and Monte Carlo, Nadal's forehand was in a great rhythm against Federer.
 
boojay

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Nadal_Freak said:
I wouldn't take anything out of this match. Nadal just didn't have the juice needed to win this match. Go back to the French Open of last year and Monte Carlo, Nadal's forehand was in a great rhythm against Federer.
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LOL

I'm sorry, everything you say is just so funny!

Here' another bagel. O
 
BreakPoint

BreakPoint

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It's obvious what Nadal's problem is - it's his racquet. It's just too big. He seriously needs to switch to a smaller racquet. I mean had he been using the same size racquet as Federer today, he would have beaten Federer 6-0, 6-0. :lol: ;) LOL
 
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chiru

Professional
BreakPoint said:
It's obvious what Nadal's problem is - it's his racquet. It's just too big. He seriously needs to switch to a smaller racquet. I mean had he been using the same size racquet as Federer today, he would have beaten Federer 6-0, 6-0. :lol: ;) LOL
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Dude...no. what kinda logic is that? everyone knows that on the ATP tour bigger is better. He needs to go pump some iron all week and increase his left bipe by a good 2-3 inches, and get some super big shoes, with nike shocks twice as big as the ones in their running line. i mean, it works for rackets don't it? bigger is better baby.
 
Phil

Phil

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Nadal_Freak said:
I wouldn't take anything out of this match. Nadal just didn't have the juice needed to win this match. Go back to the French Open of last year and Monte Carlo, Nadal's forehand was in a great rhythm against Federer.
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Yeah, what the other guy said about bagels.

Let's just say, I don't see Nadal ever bageling Federer ON GRASS, in a FINAL, regardless of JUICE or lack thereof.
 
boojay

boojay

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Nadal_Freak said:
The real question is will you show up on TW when Nadal beats Federer again in 3 weeks? Enjoy your brief victory.
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You know, you seem like the kind of stubborn person who would answer C to question #2 simply because that happened to be the answer to questions #1 & #3 even though the answer really is B.

I can't pretend I know what it's like to live in your fantasy world, but I assure you, Nadal wasn't breadsticked by Federer in a clay final this time, he was........*drum roll*...........
 
drakulie

drakulie

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Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled! Bageled!
 
federerfanatic

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Nadal_Freak said:
The real question is will you show up on TW when Nadal beats Federer again in 3 weeks? Enjoy your brief victory.
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Then you can enjoy in 7 weeks time Federer winning his 5th straight Wimbledon title, while Nadal loses out on all those points he is defending when he is powered out of the event by some flat hitter in the 4th round.
 
boojay

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federerfanatic said:
Then you can enjoy in 7 weeks time Federer winning his 5th straight Wimbledon title, while Nadal loses out on all those points he is defending when he is powered out of the event by some flat hitter in the 4th round.
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are you and the Waterloo thread guy twins?
 
BreakPoint

BreakPoint

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chiru said:
Dude...no. what kinda logic is that? everyone knows that on the ATP tour bigger is better.
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Oh, really? Hmmmm.....the last time I looked, the only four guys on the ATP Tour that anyone ever talks about being the Greatest of All Time are Federer, Sampras, Borg and Laver, and ALL of them used a racquet that was 90 sq. in. or smaller.

Also, if bigger is better on the ATP Tour, why is it that the great majority of the pros on the ATP Tour that use bigger racquets can't seem to beat the one guy that uses the smallest racquet? Hmmmm......
 
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chiru

Professional
BreakPoint said:
Oh, really? Hmmmm.....the last time I looked, the only four guys on the ATP Tour that anyone ever talks about being the Greatest of All Time are Federer, Sampras, Borg and Laver, and ALL of them used a racquet that was 90 sq. in. or smaller.

Also, if bigger is better on the ATP Tour, why is it that the great majority of the pros on the ATP Tour that use bigger racquets can't seem to beat the one guy that uses the smallest racquet? Hmmmm......
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Come on BP i was being sarcastic, i AM a ps 85 user after all.
 
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onkystomper

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It is not the rackets. I really don't believe anyone can seriously contemplate that the reason either FED or NADAL wins or loses is their racket!

I am glad Fed won as it makes for a more intereesting french open
 
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dh003i

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onkystomper said:
It is not the rackets. I really don't believe anyone can seriously contemplate that the reason either FED or NADAL wins or loses is their racket!

I am glad Fed won as it makes for a more intereesting french open
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No, but almost certainly, their rackets are optimal for the game they play.

There is an effect of the racket, but it isn't huge near the optimal point (although there is an optimal). If Nadal played with a 20sqin racket, he wouldn't be winning slams; if Federer played with a 500sqin racket, neither would he. Switching from a 90 to 95 or something like that won't make a huge difference, although it does make a difference.
 
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chiru

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i think the issue of headsize has been blown way out of proportion. probably the single biggest factor is weight/balance, more so than headsize. I think that's why across the board, the pros use heavier (and in that sense more demanding) rackets than most amateurs, regardless of head size.
 
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All Courts

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chiru said:
i think the issue of headsize has been blown way out of proportion. probably the single biggest factor is weight/balance, more so than headsize. I think that's why across the board, the pros use heavier (and in that sense more demanding) rackets than most amateurs, regardless of head size.
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Really...

I don't think anyone on this thread saw it that way.
 
Andres

Andres

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Smaller racquet... or... smaller shorts?? uhmmm
No one really thought of that.

Maybe he needs to switch to smaller, less demanding shorts.
 
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bluegrasser

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I think Federer broke down Nadal's forehand, in other words just kept going after it until it ( mentally ) broke down, the same way Connors did against Lendl when they played the final at the USO - everyone thought he'd stay away from the FH, but not Jimbo - once Lendl started missing,Jimmy knew he had him. Good strategy when it works.
 
Jonny S&V

Jonny S&V

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Nadal_Freak said:
Spam and trolling all in one.
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Can't help it that you Nadal trolls have way too much time on your hands to rant and rave about someone you haven't met nor may never have the chance. I may only have 1/5 the posts you have, but I don't troll around looking for a Nadal tread to post on. I'm sorry, but get a life!!!



P.S. I am neither a Fed fan nor a Rafa fan (I'm actually a Dent fan, but he isn't on the tour anymore).

P.S.S. You are probably going to post that you HAVE met Rafa, and I am ready for it (mwahahahaha!).
 
mileslong

mileslong

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i think the issue of headsize has been blown way out of proportion. probably the single biggest factor is weight/balance, more so than headsize. I think that's why across the board, the pros use heavier (and in that sense more demanding) rackets than most amateurs, regardless of head size.
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i disagree, i think headsize makes all the difference, just look at barry bonds...
 
Alafter

Alafter

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BreakPoint said:
Oh, really? Hmmmm.....the last time I looked, the only four guys on the ATP Tour that anyone ever talks about being the Greatest of All Time are Federer, Sampras, Borg and Laver, and ALL of them used a racquet that was 90 sq. in. or smaller.

Also, if bigger is better on the ATP Tour, why is it that the great majority of the pros on the ATP Tour that use bigger racquets can't seem to beat the one guy that uses the smallest racquet? Hmmmm......
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Women says BIGGER is better!
 
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