Nakashima and Brooksby
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i think he is likely to make Tsitsipas play a very painful match
not sure I’m quite willing to predict the victory, since at this point in their careers I think Tsitsi could still hit through him if his A game is firing
happyandbob
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It will be interesting for sure. I'm not sure that Tsitsipas hits flat enough to hit through Brooskby since Brooksby's shot tolerance is probably his best asset. I think Stefanos will have to serve well to win.
if he plays Norrie next round there needs to be a Vegas over/under on longest rally - it’s going to be equal parts epic and nauseating
also these court level Brooksby-Tsitsipas highlights are great
Brooksby hits a hell of a ball off the ground, seemingly just as dangerous when you stretch him wide as when he has time to set up
and his serve stats were bonkers in this match:
he made 85% of his first serves
and when he did let Tsitsipas get a look at a second serve, he won 70% of those points
I also love how easily he brushed away Tsitsipas's sour post-match comments
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essentially 'oh yeah? you cannot figure out what is so special about my game? cool story, that's what I shoot for.'
Brooksby hits a hell of a ball off the ground, seemingly just as dangerous when you stretch him wide as when he has time to set up
and his serve stats were bonkers in this match:
he made 85% of his first serves
and when he did let Tsitsipas get a look at a second serve, he won 70% of those points
I also love how easily he brushed away Tsitsipas's sour post-match comments
Tennis: Brooksby beats Tsitsipas to continue day of upsets in Indian Wells
Jenson Brooksby came back from a set down to topple Stefanos Tsitsipas at the Indian Wells Masters. Daniil Medvedev also lost
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happyandbob
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That's his single greatest differentiator it seems, his shot tolerance and ability to hit offensive shots from defensive positions. We'll see how his career develops, but that one skill at least seems destined to be elite.
Brooksby now with a live ranking of #39
happyandbob
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not so fast. JB is figuring Norrie out
i'm hoping for the jinx with my early pessimistic comment
but Brooksby indeed never gets flustered by losing a set, seems to always think he's capable of adjusting as the match goes on more than his opponent, and most of the time he seems to be right
boy would he like that 0-40 back to go up 2-0 in the second, however
Former Horned Frog vs a former Baylor Bear. I think Norrie's ability to get free points on his serve was huge. Norrie will be moving into the top 10 soon so no shame in losing to such a quality opponent. It will be interesting to see how Norrie does vs Alcarez.
Norrie's game is pretty fascinating
usually I find all those IBM match stats, RPMs, etc pretty useless info - but I think in his case it was a pretty good point to be made about how difficult it is to get in a rhythm and attack a guy that's throwing heavy balls to you off his forehand, then knifing the flattest backhands in the top-50 at the lower limits of your strike zone anytime you attack that wing
and his movement is world class for his height - taking a page out of Medvedev's book, even if he's a few inches shorter
he's definitely not done rising either - despite a bad AO performance, one win away from #10
Props to both Norrie and Brooksby scaling the heights they've achieved to date with games that are both far from the norm. Neither seems to have the typical go to weapon common among their peers. Both leverage to great success excellent movement, tactics and problems solving mid-match, while incorporating an unusual combination of shots, spin (or flat BH Norrie) and angles. I can only guess lots of junior players are inspired by them.
Can't wait for their next encounter. My guess is it will be much closer than yesterday, I'm picking Brooksby then.
Can't wait for their next encounter. My guess is it will be much closer than yesterday, I'm picking Brooksby then.
He will never crack the top 35.
onehandbh
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Brooksby's coach Joseph Gilbert deserves some credit as well. Looks like he's been with the same coach for a long time.
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The coach seems to have had a lot of success with his students.
Jenson Brooksby | Bio | ATP Tour | Tennis
Official tennis bio information on Jenson Brooksby including personal and professional info.
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The coach seems to have had a lot of success with his students.
silentkman
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if he plays Miami and wins a couple of rounds, he will move up since he has no points to defend. he will crack the top 35.
atatu
Legend
He'll never crack the top 30 !
silentkman
Hall of Fame
LOL, the guy is a thinker. I'm assuming the serve will improve. I do think he is a plus one guy with the serve.
Clark was continuing a long running joke in this thread
silentkman
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oops, didn't read the beginning of the thread. Thanks
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
Whatever happened to JJ Wolf?
atatu
Legend
He had a good tournament at IW, came through qualifiers and lost to RBA 7-6 in the third in the round of 64. He beat Musetti in straight sets yesterday, 63, 62, in a challenger.
Got injured is back playing again. Made the round of 16 in Acapulco 500, in the Phoenix Challenger now. Beat #56 Mussetti yesterday, plays Verdasco today in the quarters.
Wolf on the other hand has a cannon for a serve so he will crack the top 35.
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
crack 35? Really. He was 120 after the 2020 USOpen and currently at #209
atatu
Legend
I don't really know how "live" rankings work, but I think he's around 175 right now and could go higher if he beats Ferdasco today in Phoenix.
silentkman
Hall of Fame
He was injured for 8 months. Hard to get points if you are injured. He had a good win versus Sonego recently.
yeah, what atatu said
Bob, nice attempt at distracting from your horrendous Brooksby call, but Wolf back to playing good tennis the last few weeks, absolutely hammered Musetti yesterday, beat Gaston the prior week, beat Sonego and Kevin Anderson the tournament before that, currently 175 in the world and rising in his post-surgery comeback year
happyandbob
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The US certainly has a lot of depth. Hopefully one of them rises up to consistent top 10 level. JJ seems to have lost some of the weight he put on when he first came back from injury, he's looking pretty good.
Bob rightfully sometimes tries to strike back at me for predicting JJ would have a better career than Kudla, since I needle him endlessly about his Brooksby call
the difference is I’ve already admitted several times that I was probably too aggressive / hopeful in that prediction, though it’s maybe still possible - and he’s never backed off his arrogant ‘I saw Brooksby from the front row and he has no future’ in so many words (the exact words can be found 700 times in this thread!) comment that got destroyed the same week he uttered it, and only gets more wrong with every passing week
maybe some day he’ll admit to missing the entire dart board on his Brooksby call
I like how he acts like he doesn't know what a low ranked player is doing, then suddenly quotes their ranking. He knows every match he's played. OSU guy, you know he knows.
I had a good laugh when I saw that JJ plays Kudla next - Kudla won their first meeting, then JJ won both times they played in 2021 - maybe tomorrow JJ goes 3-1 vs Kudla and starts chipping away at his 3M career prize money deficit - let’s go!
but to be fair, I grew up playing / training near Kudla and almost always sought out his qualies matches during the years I attended W&S Masters - once I think partially contributing to a Benoit Paire meltdown when I was annoyingly cheering for Kudla between every point, maybe I give myself too much credit but many a glare and French mumbling were directed my way while Kudla took him down 4,4 in the final round of qualies in 2015 - so I wouldn’t really mind either of them winning
but to be fair, I grew up playing / training near Kudla and almost always sought out his qualies matches during the years I attended W&S Masters - once I think partially contributing to a Benoit Paire meltdown when I was annoyingly cheering for Kudla between every point, maybe I give myself too much credit but many a glare and French mumbling were directed my way while Kudla took him down 4,4 in the final round of qualies in 2015 - so I wouldn’t really mind either of them winning
silentkman
Hall of Fame
from what I can tell, Kudla is a good dude. props to the DMV.
At that age, have they finished their undergraduate studies? Or, are they still studying? They haven't dropped out, have they?
If those above questions have been answered already, I apologize. I've not had time to read through all the pages of this thread.
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
JJ Wolf is so good that he lost to Jesper De Long who is currently ranked #168, LOL....
atatu
Legend
Did you have to go back to January to find a bad loss for him ? Curious to see how he does against Sam in the Miami qualies.
you’re reaching, don’t get nervous now that he’s looking good the past few weeks
atatu
Legend
Looks like he beat Sam in straights.
Bob just broke a nail
While pounding his desk with his fists
another routine victory, 4&4, and Wolf has qualified for Miami
would be nice to get the right draw and a few more points out of this week, currently #158
here's hoping he gets slot 69 or 70, against another qualifier in round of 128 with fognini awaiting in round of 64
or slot 118, against the wildcard shang with sonego awaiting
Nakashima won yesterday
Brooksby and Wolf won today
Brooksby has some growing up to do - his return, his backhand, his tennis mind, his fight are all great ways to emulate Djokovic - being careless re: those on the court around you is probably not the way to emulate him
Coria wanted him defaulted after he sent a racquet skidding into the feet of a ball boy, and I think that default would have been totally reasonable
Brooksby and Wolf won today
Brooksby has some growing up to do - his return, his backhand, his tennis mind, his fight are all great ways to emulate Djokovic - being careless re: those on the court around you is probably not the way to emulate him
Coria wanted him defaulted after he sent a racquet skidding into the feet of a ball boy, and I think that default would have been totally reasonable
puppybutts
Hall of Fame
brooksby should've stayed in college and joined a frat
happyandbob
Legend
He's got a lot of growing up to do, that's for sure
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