Nalbandian 2nd Most Talented Player Behing Federer

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i think whenever you talk about tennis talent, nalbandian is the 2nd most talented player in the world and has been for the 2000's decade and now only trailing Federer respectfully. when nalbandian is at the top of the game he is so entertaining to watch. his whole game is very fluid and he has an unbelievable blend of power and pace on his grounstrokes.
 
Oh boy I hate these kind of threads.
Wasn´t there also a thread about Berdych beeing the most talented player after Fed..?
 
Talent on TTW means how many grandslams you *could* have won if _____ didn't happen and ______ also didn't happen, and don't forget _______.
 
It's very subjective. But there is no doubt that Nalbandian has an enormous amount of talent. I've seen him live playing against Paradorn (who was at that time ranked in the top ten). David systematically took apart Paradorn's game in the most astonsihing way; and his most recent results on the US hardcourts after a long lay-off does bear that point. His problem may be his fitness; he is probably not able to maintain his form throughout the gruelling 2 weeks of a grand slam tournament
 
umm mental strength is a talent too, so he's obviously way behind every pro to have ever won a grand slam
 
I think Nalbandian has the best record of 5 set matches won when he's 2 sets down, so I don't think his problem is mental strength.

I remember I laughed my ass off when a commentator once said that Nalbandian is always a dangerous opponent... getting even more dangerous when he's 2 sets down. :)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he also missed some slams due to many different and recurring injuries.
Like this year, every time he tried to get back on tour, there seemed to be another injury hampering him.
 
Gilles Simon is, without a doubt, the most talented player currently active in professional tennis today.
 
How come he's never won anything?
Because talent does not necessarily equal wins. Much of winning in tennis depends on what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work. Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.
 
Because talent does not necessarily equal wins. Much of winning in tennis depends on what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work. Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.

Who's Nadal? Certainly not half as talented as Nalbandian. Nalbandian in godmode is very talented.
 
Because talent does not necessarily equal wins. Much of winning in tennis depends on what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work. Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.

We all know Nadal has as much talent as a construction worker working across the street. Federer is the true artist! His gracefulness on court and the minimal time he spends on practicing makes him the best of all time!!!!!!!

Yet he loses to Nadal over and over again! We all know that no talent pushers can win against the best players as long as they practice 24/7 and get a good psychiatrist! Hey, I'm gonna start practicing from tomorrow and win the USO this year!
 
Vincent "MC the Spade" Spadea is the most talented...

he gotz mad skillz. he be prazentin with the crew!
 
Because talent does not necessarily equal wins. Much of winning in tennis depends on what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work. Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.

:lol: Nadal with minimal talent eh. So let me get this straight, tennis is about hard work, mental strength and athleticism but talent has MINIMAL BEARING on how good someone is? Nadal is tearing up the circuit once again with MINIMAL TALENT? The most accomplished player ever at his age with minimal talent? A dominating H2H vs. the so called "GOAT" according to some, with victories over him in major finals on every surface with minimal talent?

What you are doing is called telling a huge lie so loudly, and so often enough, that you hope people believe it. It's a common tactic used by fascist dictators actually ;) But you really have absolutely no freakin clue what you're talking about RH, if you believe this stuff. You need to stop. It's so obvious you are overwhelmed with hatred and denial over this Nadal person, and the fact that he's ruining your life is just lame. Go out and play some of your "Federer-esque" backhands, your "Sampras like" serves, and of course your "traffic stopping" all around game (all of which you refuse to tape and show everyone), and just stop worrying about this stuff. Your schtick is tired and old.

Nadal has just as much talent as Federer ever did, and his best beats Federer's best. Deal with it.
 
:lol: Nadal with minimal talent eh. So let me get this straight, tennis is about hard work, mental strength and athleticism but talent has MINIMAL BEARING on how good someone is? Nadal is tearing up the circuit once again with MINIMAL TALENT? The most accomplished player ever at his age with minimal talent? A dominating H2H vs. the so called "GOAT" according to some, with victories over him in major finals on every surface with minimal talent?

What you are doing is called telling a huge lie so loudly, and so often enough, that you hope people believe it. It's a common tactic used by fascist dictators actually ;) But you really have absolutely no freakin clue what you're talking about RH, if you believe this stuff. You need to stop. It's so obvious you are overwhelmed with hatred and denial over this Nadal person, and the fact that he's ruining your life is just lame. Go out and play some of your "Federer-esque" backhands, your "Sampras like" serves, and of course your "traffic stopping" all around game (all of which you refuse to tape and show everyone), and just stop worrying about this stuff. Your schtick is tired and old.

Nadal has just as much talent as Federer ever did, and his best beats Federer's best. Deal with it.

I've no doubt you're right but good luck convincing this guy.
 
Because talent does not necessarily equal wins. Much of winning in tennis depends on what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work. Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.

Wow, bitter much? :-?
 
Who's Nadal? Certainly not half as talented as Nalbandian. Nalbandian in godmode is very talented.

Talent isn't a variable that changes when your in form. Nalbandian doesn't become more talented when he's in "godmode".

We all know Nadal has as much talent as a construction worker working across the street. Federer is the true artist! His gracefulness on court and the minimal time he spends on practicing makes him the best of all time!!!!!!!

Having a bit of an orgasm there, aren't you. Maybe if he did practise a bit more and got a coach instead of being an arrogant git, then he'd be able to beat Nadal more often. Why is someone who can't be arsed to practise, the best of all time? Seems a bit perverse, doesn't it.

Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.

Bull****. Just because Nadal hasn't got a classical technique, doesn't mean he isn't supremely talented. Perhaps you're saying that if all of us practised as much as him, did as much physical training as him and had a good psychologist, we'd be world number 1?
 
Mon dieu! How can a filthy 2-handed-backhanded player be the 2nd most talented? That title must belong to someone who plays the only right way, like Gasquet. :D
 
Everyone knows that talent level directly correlates with work ethic. The more talented you are, the less mentally strong and hard working you are. Right Breakpoint?
 
for me the most talented is Federer and then Nalbandian.

when Nalby is healthy he is a Maestro playing, its a wonder to watch him play.

IMO
 
:lol: Nadal with minimal talent eh. So let me get this straight, tennis is about hard work, mental strength and athleticism but talent has MINIMAL BEARING on how good someone is? Nadal is tearing up the circuit once again with MINIMAL TALENT? The most accomplished player ever at his age with minimal talent? A dominating H2H vs. the so called "GOAT" according to some, with victories over him in major finals on every surface with minimal talent?

What you are doing is called telling a huge lie so loudly, and so often enough, that you hope people believe it. It's a common tactic used by fascist dictators actually ;) But you really have absolutely no freakin clue what you're talking about RH, if you believe this stuff. You need to stop. It's so obvious you are overwhelmed with hatred and denial over this Nadal person, and the fact that he's ruining your life is just lame. Go out and play some of your "Federer-esque" backhands, your "Sampras like" serves, and of course your "traffic stopping" all around game (all of which you refuse to tape and show everyone), and just stop worrying about this stuff. Your schtick is tired and old.

Nadal has just as much talent as Federer ever did, and his best beats Federer's best. Deal with it.
And what you're doing is feeding a troll.
 
Vincent "MC the Spade" Spadea is the most talented...

he gotz mad skillz. he be prazentin with the crew!

I think you meant this as a funny:) I've actually always liked Spadea's game... I just wish he could have held it together better mentally. I'm thinking he has decided to finally let his career as a player slip into the twilight now? Or, can we expect one final push from the Spadeator? If he could get a little less goofey and a little more technical I think he may have a carreer in broadcasting.
 
Because talent does not necessarily equal wins. Much of winning in tennis depends on what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work. Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.

Uhm... aren't the factors "what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work" all a part of what we call TALENT??? At least they are in my definition of 'talent'... and as such, Nadal is a very talented player. Like most of the guys that make it to the top, otherwise they would never have made it there!

Nalbandian is a typical underachiever. He might well be very talented in your point of view, but he isn't in mine, as I consider the above mentioned 'missing factors' to be an integral part of 'talent'.
 
We all know Nadal has as much talent as a construction worker working across the street. Federer is the true artist! His gracefulness on court and the minimal time he spends on practicing makes him the best of all time!!!!!!!

Yet he loses to Nadal over and over again! We all know that no talent pushers can win against the best players as long as they practice 24/7 and get a good psychiatrist! Hey, I'm gonna start practicing from tomorrow and win the USO this year!
Yup. McEnroe was also tons more talented than Lendl, yet Lendl would beat McEnroe all the time. Why? Because Lendl worked harder and was a fanatic about physical conditioning and all aspects of playing tennis. Meanwhile, McEnroe never practiced and never went to the gym and knew and cared about 1% of what Lendl knew and cared about his equipment.

Nadal wins through his mental toughness, great physical conditioning, and practicing relentlessly, not through sheer talent. Nadal will be the first to tell you that he's not nearly as naturally talented as Federer.
 
Uhm... aren't the factors "what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work" all a part of what we call TALENT??? At least they are in my definition of 'talent'... and as such, Nadal is a very talented player. Like most of the guys that make it to the top, otherwise they would never have made it there!

Nalbandian is a typical underachiever. He might well be very talented in your point of view, but he isn't in mine, as I consider the above mentioned 'missing factors' to be an integral part of 'talent'.
No, not at all. Talent is the natural talent of hitting a tennis ball, the timing, the variety, the tennis IQ, etc. It's not something you can attain through just hard work. Most of what Nadal has can be attained through hard work and mental focus.
 
Yup. McEnroe was also tons more talented than Lendl, yet Lendl would beat McEnroe all the time. Why? Because Lendl worked harder and was a fanatic about physical conditioning and all aspects of playing tennis. Meanwhile, McEnroe never practiced and never went to the gym and knew and cared about 1% of what Lendl knew and cared about his equipment.

Nadal wins through his mental toughness, great physical conditioning, and practicing relentlessly, not through sheer talent. Nadal will be the first to tell you that he's not nearly as naturally talented as Federer.

He may not be, but I think he's more talented than maybe anyone else on the tour. I don't put much faith in the "talent" of players who haven't even won a grand slam, players like Nalbandian or Baghdatis.
 
Who's Nadal? Certainly not half as talented as Nalbandian. Nalbandian in godmode is very talented.
Whoa! I didn't know talent depended on God mode. I thought talented people were good even on bad days, even at 2 am, even when drunk ... or down with mono :shock:
 
Whoa! I didn't know talent depended on God mode. I thought talented people were good even on bad days, even at 2 am, even when drunk ... or down with mono :shock:

I was being sarcastic. It's obvious Nadal isn't this minuscule talent. Who gives a **** about talent anyway. Talent doesn't equate to being better than someone. Rankings don't lie; Nadal is the superior player in terms of techncial ability and was very talented, it just so happens that Nadal worked on his talent (just like Federer did). Nalbandian is talented, but there are quite a few players who have more talent.
 
Playing pretty tennis is a little subjective. People value different qualities. Some people do enjoy a lot of Nadal's qualities (myself included) while still acknowledging that Nalbandian has talent. Saying that he has the most talent after Federer is a little outrageous. Although perhaps you are right. The talent list might go something like: 1. Nadal...........7. Federer, 8. Nalbandian. LOL.

Maybe if you could start by defining how to measure talent we could begin to have a rational argument, but I doubt that is going to ever happen.

As far as I am concerned, Federer is the most talented player after Nadal. LOL.
 
Whoa! I didn't know talent depended on God mode. I thought talented people were good even on bad days, even at 2 am, even when drunk ... or down with mono :shock:
Nalbandian needs to be motivated to win. Double stacked ham sandwiches do wonders to motivate the Fat Man. His coach also recently found out a new trick: Hide the minibar key before matches.
 
No, not at all. Talent is the natural talent of hitting a tennis ball, the timing, the variety, the tennis IQ, etc. It's not something you can attain through just hard work. Most of what Nadal has can be attained through hard work and mental focus.

It's a matter of definition of 'talent', don't you think? I get your point with 'natural talent', but making optimal use of that natural talent is also a talent. And a very important deciding factor to determine whether a player makes it to the top or not. Even more, mere 'natural talent' brings you nothing, or do you think that Federer - gifted with heaps of it - doesn't work his *** of in practice and conditioning (which he does), but just hangs around on the couch all day?
 
His coach also recently found out a new trick: Hide the minibar key before matches.

Now I understand why he was trying to swallow the ball. Poor guy, he must have been so hungry..

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Because talent does not necessarily equal wins. Much of winning in tennis depends on what's between your ears, your competitive fight, physical conditioning, and hard work. Look at Nadal, he's able to win a lot despite his minimal talent.

This makes you look either really dumb, or really upset that Federer loses to Nadal 2 out of 3 times.

It's pretty clear that Nadal has a TON of talent.
 
Nalbandian has no weapon as skillful as Nadal's forehand (which nobody can duplicate) and Nadal's two-handed backhand passing shot. Even Nadal's slice is working wonders these days.
 
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