Natty Gut tension

Will Wilson

Semi-Pro
I've messed around with a few different guts, all in full bed. I've mainly played with klip but have tried a few other of the cheap natty guts.

My question is that I can't seem to get a good feel for the proper tension. I love the feel of a full bed but the power can be too much.

So, I tried my next set quite a bit tighter (62lbs in a pro staff 95) and it was almost more powerful and I lost the nice pocketing feel.

Any advice? I guess I am looking for something other than "try different tensions" because I don't have the budget to keep experimenting.
 
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radically_prestigious_guy

Guest
Gut/poly hybrid with tension differential? Low tension poly will still be comfortable and tame some power. Even at a higher tension the gut can slip around to get a good pocket. Cheaper than full gut.
 
Yeah you will get most of the feel with the gut in the mains, so a hybrid is a good suggestion. For full gut, I think I would stay between 50 - 65 lb.
 

Will Wilson

Semi-Pro
I would like to stick with full bed as I don't want to cut it out when the poly goes dead. That's why its been a challenge.
 

volusiano

Hall of Fame
I usually string my full gut bed at the lowest tension range indicated on the racket (usually 55 lbs or so). I use string savers liberally on the sweet spot so maybe that tightens the bed up a little bit more.

Yeah, sometimes the power is a little too much, but then other times the power is perfectly nice. I already hit with spin so I try to tame the power by putting even more spin on the ball to transform the power into the spin. I also make other adjustments to my strokes to tame the power. I just stick with it long enough until I eventually figure out how to tame the power just right.
 

volusiano

Hall of Fame
I would like to stick with full bed as I don't want to cut it out when the poly goes dead. That's why its been a challenge.
This is exactly why I go full gut bed, too. I'm not a string breaker so the poly would go dead way before the main gut would break in a hybrid set up for me. With the full gut bed, it'll last forever for me and nothing goes dead until the string finally frays enough and breaks.
 
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radically_prestigious_guy

Guest
I would like to stick with full bed as I don't want to cut it out when the poly goes dead. That's why its been a challenge.
That's the beauty of the gut being in the mains. As long as you don't string the poly tight, the gut will dominate the feel of the string bed. I think you can restring the crosses only if you want, but there really isn't any point until the gut breaks. The benefit is you get a bit more spin and pocketing because there is less friction between the mains and crosses.
 

volusiano

Hall of Fame
That's the beauty of the gut being in the mains. As long as you don't string the poly tight, the gut will dominate the feel of the string bed. I think you can restring the crosses only if you want, but there really isn't any point until the gut breaks. The benefit is you get a bit more spin and pocketing because there is less friction between the mains and crosses.
Hm, I think what you're saying is that the poly crosses can go dead and you still don't think it'll change the feel in anyway? So just leave the dead crosses in there until the main guts break and you won't even know that they go dead?

Then why all this discussion about what type of cross string to use in a hybrid if the crosses don't affect the string bed's feel in anyway?
 

Fintft

Legend
I've messed around with a few different guts, all in full bed. I've mainly played with klip but have tried a few other of the cheap natty guts.

My question is that I can't seem to get a good feel for the proper tension. I love the feel of a full bed but the power can be too much.

So, I tried my next set quite a bit tighter (62lbs in a pro staff 95) and it was almost more powerful and I lost the nice pocketing feel.

Any advice? I guess I am looking for something other than "try different tensions" because I don't have the budget to keep experimenting.

57 mains and 55 crosses (to limit the movement a bit), you still get the pocketing effect.

I also went to open string pattern 16x18 (from 18x20) in order to help prevent the balls from sailing long with more spin.
 
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radically_prestigious_guy

Guest
Then why all this discussion about what type of cross string to use in a hybrid if the crosses don't affect the string bed's feel in anyway?
Not exactly what I meant, some of the stiffer poly strings would maybe be noticeable going dead. But I think you can keep much the same playability if you pick the right cross string without having to cut it out all the time.

If you like the full gut then play with it :) I tried playing full multi for a while but found a lot of power and they snapped in a few hours. Gut/poly was suggested by a few other forum members and proved to be a great solution for me to get a balance of power, spin and feel. Plus they are saving me money on restring costs.
 
I find that a poly cross does go dead enough to affect the feel, but it takes a long time. I definitely get a lot longer total time from a full bed gut than with a poly cross. However, I prefer the hybrid currently because the spin and pocketing is better. I do restring the cross eventually, have no issues doing so since I mount the frame prior to cutting and use care.

If the full bed gut is too powerful, just adjust tension up by a couple pounds. Gut stays comfortable at high tensions. 64 in your Ps95 may be the ticket.

Cheers
 
Btw pacific classic and tough gut seem crisper and lower powered than klip. Also the higher the tension the smaller the pocket, no cure for that.
 
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