NB Freshfoam Lav ? Anyone have them? Thoughts?

The Big Kahuna

Hall of Fame
I have not tried the lavs but have tried many others. The FF2 fits me great. Does NOT have the cushioning that the zooms do. The zooms fit me great as well, even though the material coming over the top of my foot took a while to loosen up. I went down a half size in both and it was great. If the FF2 has the cushioning that the zooms do, forget about it. I am trying the Wilson shoe next, and last. If it does not fit great I will send it back and probably get another pair of the zooms. I wish they breathed better. I do have c size foot which I did not know before now. I have left wider shoes behind now that I know how other shoes fit. So far, I have not played with a shoe that was as cushioned AND as stable as the zooms.
The FF2 and the Zoom Zeros are the best two shoes out there right now IMO. You are right on the money. Two excellent shoes with a superb balance of stability and cushioning.


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That looks more like a custom Lav. It has the heel pull tab and the crinkle in the midsole matches the Lav. My 996 V4 test pair from earlier in the year didn't look like that. Be surprised if Milos moved off the shoe line they made for him (but stranger things have happened I guess) My V4 said Spring 2020 so maybe an AO release? It is a huge upgrade over the existing 996 IMO.
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
That looks more like a custom Lav. It has the heel pull tab and the crinkle in the midsole matches the Lav. My 996 V4 test pair from earlier in the year didn't look like that. Be surprised if Milos moved off the shoe line they made for him (but stranger things have happened I guess) My V4 said Spring 2020 so maybe an AO release? It is a huge upgrade over the existing 996 IMO.
You got pics of the test pair?
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I cannot order shoes online, particularly New Balance.

For years I used to wear New Balance 10.5 EE in various iterations. (I do have a wide foot.) I always loved them because they gave me the room I needed and fit great. But then about two years ago I ordered this size in NB 1296. The fit was terrible: way too narrow (barely a D width) and probably too short. Because I got these just before moving overseas, I did not find this out till I was abroad a few months later--too late and too far away to return.

After playing in these shoes for over a year, I decided this June I couldn't take it any more and maybe these ill-fitting shoes were squeezing and damaging my feet. Hoping that a different brand shoe would be more true to fit, I ordered some Adidas CourtJam Bounce 10.5 EE. These were a good length but slightly too narrow where the instep meets the heel area. So I sent them back.

In early August I was still trying trying to find other tennis shoes that would fit. I moved on to looking at cross-training shoes and sizes all over the place: 10.5 EE, 10.5 EEEE, 11 EE, 11 EEEE, 11.5 EE, and 11.5 EEEE.
Should I order four sizes and plan to return the three that fit least well?
What should I do? I read lots of customer reviews about poorly fitting shoes.

Everything I could order online seemed like an irrational gamble with no guarantee of success.
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
I cannot order shoes online, particularly New Balance.

For years I used to wear New Balance 10.5 EE in various iterations. (I do have a wide foot.) I always loved them because they gave me the room I needed and fit great. But then about two years ago I ordered this size in NB 1296. The fit was terrible: way too narrow (barely a D width) and probably too short. Because I got these just before moving overseas, I did not find this out till I was abroad a few months later--too late and too far away to return.

After playing in these shoes for over a year, I decided this June I couldn't take it any more and maybe these ill-fitting shoes were squeezing and damaging my feet. Hoping that a different brand shoe would be more true to fit, I ordered some Adidas CourtJam Bounce 10.5 EE. These were a good length but slightly too narrow where the instep meets the heel area. So I sent them back.

In early August I was still trying trying to find other tennis shoes that would fit. I moved on to looking at cross-training shoes and sizes all over the place: 10.5 EE, 10.5 EEEE, 11 EE, 11 EEEE, 11.5 EE, and 11.5 EEEE.
Should I order four sizes and plan to return the three that fit least well?
What should I do? I read lots of customer reviews about poorly fitting shoes.

Everything I could order online seemed like an irrational gamble with no guarantee of success.
I think you just need to order flippers and learn to play in those
 

siaf1313

New User
How does Lav's cushioning and width compare to SFX 3 and Sole Court Boost?
Ι have the same question also. Unfortunately not too many reviews talking about width. Check what I wrote and TW wrote back:

Hello team,

I started off with the Asics Gel Resolution 7s all court. (size 29cm, 46). I found them very fast and very stable (after i started lacing them up to the top shoelace holes) when i wanted to move fast around the court and especially when i changed lateral direction. The grip was excellent in carpet and a little too much on the hard court. Also, I felt that on the hard court they were not bouncy enough which hurt my knees. My biggest problem was they were too tight on the toes which made my post game experience very bad on the toes and nails. I also developed achilles tendonitis for the 1st time in my life although i m guessing this is not necessarily because of the shoes.
I switched to the babolat SFX3 (size 29cm, 45). I am really enjoying the toe room, it is very important for me. The grip is fine on carpet but I feel like I cannot run around the court as fast and change lateral direction as fast. I also lace these up to the top shoelace hole otherwise they feel very unstable even when i wear two socks. I have yet to try them on a hard court.
Between the two, I definitely prefer the babaolat, as i said i really enjoy the toe room. But i am missing the asics stability and speed.
Are there any shoes you can recommend for me?
Based on reviews, could the Adidas solecourt boost be my shoes? Maybe the Nike Vapor X? The K Swiss light?The Lav foam?
I need toe room with heel protection for my health and lateral stability for my game

REPLY
I think the New Balance Lav would be your best option out of the three you listed. Our playtesters found them to offer a great combination of support/stability without weighing them down. Our playtester with a wider foot had no issues with the toe box in the Lavs.
 

Readers

Professional
Ι have the same question also. Unfortunately not too many reviews talking about width. Check what I wrote and TW wrote back:

Hello team,

I started off with the Asics Gel Resolution 7s all court. (size 29cm, 46). I found them very fast and very stable (after i started lacing them up to the top shoelace holes) when i wanted to move fast around the court and especially when i changed lateral direction. The grip was excellent in carpet and a little too much on the hard court. Also, I felt that on the hard court they were not bouncy enough which hurt my knees. My biggest problem was they were too tight on the toes which made my post game experience very bad on the toes and nails. I also developed achilles tendonitis for the 1st time in my life although i m guessing this is not necessarily because of the shoes.
I switched to the babolat SFX3 (size 29cm, 45). I am really enjoying the toe room, it is very important for me. The grip is fine on carpet but I feel like I cannot run around the court as fast and change lateral direction as fast. I also lace these up to the top shoelace hole otherwise they feel very unstable even when i wear two socks. I have yet to try them on a hard court.
Between the two, I definitely prefer the babaolat, as i said i really enjoy the toe room. But i am missing the asics stability and speed.
Are there any shoes you can recommend for me?
Based on reviews, could the Adidas solecourt boost be my shoes? Maybe the Nike Vapor X? The K Swiss light?The Lav foam?
I need toe room with heel protection for my health and lateral stability for my game

REPLY
I think the New Balance Lav would be your best option out of the three you listed. Our playtesters found them to offer a great combination of support/stability without weighing them down. Our playtester with a wider foot had no issues with the toe box in the Lavs.
I think based on that reply you prob only need D width in Lav, I will need 2E. I can't really wear Gel Res 7 as they stopped making a wide version, Gel Res 6 wide was good but a bit lacking in cushioning.
 

PD1978

New User
I found they fit a bit small. Had to go up in size and always get the wide version, nice that NB offers a wide version.

Anyone had issue with the high heel to toe drop????
 

zipplock

Rookie
I'm in Florida, been to Orlando and Sawgrass Mills outlets. Both had 896, 996 and LAV marked at $69.99 then another 30% off that. On the clearance walls.
 

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Hall of Fame
I'm in Florida, been to Orlando and Sawgrass Mills outlets. Both had 896, 996 and LAV marked at $69.99 then another 30% off that. On the clearance walls.
Ah, ok. It was clearance wall and not their usual stock. That said, how was the size run if you happened to notice. Was it just one-offs or did they have a sizable stock on the wall? Might have to go check out my local NB outlet.
 

zipplock

Rookie
Sorry. BTW, the LAV are awesome!!!!! Super lucky they were on sale or I probably wouldn't have tried them. Super light, supportive and comfy. Great shoe.
 
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