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Its pretty much down to these two now....pick your player and explain why one should get it over the other.
Agreed. MVP goes to Kobe, the Colorado Carnal King.Kobe Bryant hasn’t always been the best person, the best teammate, the best ambassador for the National Basketball Association. This is the reason so many voters are searching for someone else to vote Most Valuable Player. For this, Bryant can blame himself. This is the price paid for petulance.
Still, Bryant is an MVP. He’s been the best player, a three-time champion and voters must ask themselves: If I don’t vote for him this year, what will it ever take? His talent, his accomplishments, his place in history, command multiple MVPs. This has been a season when everything has come together to make his candidacy unimpeachable.
His time, his trophy.
“You can’t just continue to take what Kobe is doing for granted,” Pistons president and Hall of Famer Joe Dumars said. “The guy is one of the truly great players and he should be recognized as such.”
No one needs historical context to make the case for Bryant this year. His season stands on its own. At 29, this isn’t a lifetime achievement award. Kobe is still the best of the best. MVPs, however, are never won overnight in the NBA. Mostly, it takes constructing credibility over the years. He’s been so great, for so long that Dumars is right: People do take him for granted.
As Mark Heisler’s informal poll in the Los Angeles Times showed, the MVP race appears to be down to Bryant and New Orleans point guard Chris Paul. Someday, Paul is going to be an MVP, a champion. He has saved basketball in New Orleans, passing Steve Nash and Jason Kidd as the best point guard on the planet. There isn’t a player in the league that I love more to talk with, that I love more to watch play, than Paul.
Yet, he will have to go No. 2 on my ballot. He hasn’t been first-team All-NBA. He still hasn’t played in the postseason. His time is coming, and coming fast, but there’s time for Paul. Before Paul and LeBron James and maybe Dwyane Wade are 29 years old, they’ll probably have MVP trophies. Bryant’s wait has been long enough.
Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant, center, drives to the basket against Portland Trail Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge (12) during the second quarter of the basketball game at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, in this Feb. 26, 2008 file photo. Looking on is Lakers' Pau Gasol (16), from Spain, left. The league drew more than 4.2 million fans, its highest attendance ever in March, and sales at the NBA Store in New York were up 46 percent from the same period last year, part of its overall 15 percent increase for the season.
Those who believe in Bryant’s greatness are forever ripping the voting process, saying it’s a joke that he’ll never been named MVP. Normally, they don’t tell you what year that should’ve happened, who should’ve lost out. Once Tim Duncan had won his two MVP awards, Nash and Dirk Nowitzki were winning, the Lakers losing, and Bryant lost three straight times in his prime. In those years, the mediocre Laker teams crushed his candidacy.
Always, it was this: In the post-Shaq era, Bryant had to be playing for a contender. This was the voter’s mandate. As much as anything, Nowitzki was the best player on the 67-win Mavericks a year ago and it was declared his window, his time. To hear people say that they want to hold off voting to see who finishes the Western Conference with the better record – New Orleans or Los Angeles – is missing the point here.
Bryant doesn’t need the Lakers to finish with the best record in the regular season. When the Lakers are together, yes, they are the most talented team in the NBA. Only, they haven’t been together this season. The Lakers are still fighting for the No. 1 seed with Andrew Bynum out since the middle of January and Pau Gasol arriving in February and missing nine games in March.
The idea that an MVP has to do more with less is nonsense. For coach of the year, it’s a fairer argument. When Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were winning MVPs in the 1980s, who held their rosters against them?
No one ever made Nash reach a conference final – never mind win a title – to give him his first MVP. He came on late in his career to transform himself, but that was never necessary with Bryant. At 29, he’s been great for most of a decade. He’s paid his price for petulance. Joe Dumars is right: No more taking Bryant for granted.
His time, his trophy.
Chris Paul
Just once. I don't even know why you said it that 2nd time. Stern doesn't read these boards.how many times do i have to say this
CHRIS PAUL
so Lebron has no chance?
Kobe Bryant hasn’t always been the best person, the best teammate, the best ambassador for the National Basketball Association. This is the reason so many voters are searching for someone else to vote Most Valuable Player. For this, Bryant can blame himself. This is the price paid for petulance.
Still, Bryant is an MVP. He’s been the best player, a three-time champion and voters must ask themselves: If I don’t vote for him this year, what will it ever take? His talent, his accomplishments, his place in history, command multiple MVPs. This has been a season when everything has come together to make his candidacy unimpeachable.
His time, his trophy.
“You can’t just continue to take what Kobe is doing for granted,” Pistons president and Hall of Famer Joe Dumars said. “The guy is one of the truly great players and he should be recognized as such.”
No one needs historical context to make the case for Bryant this year. His season stands on its own. At 29, this isn’t a lifetime achievement award. Kobe is still the best of the best. MVPs, however, are never won overnight in the NBA. Mostly, it takes constructing credibility over the years. He’s been so great, for so long that Dumars is right: People do take him for granted.
As Mark Heisler’s informal poll in the Los Angeles Times showed, the MVP race appears to be down to Bryant and New Orleans point guard Chris Paul. Someday, Paul is going to be an MVP, a champion. He has saved basketball in New Orleans, passing Steve Nash and Jason Kidd as the best point guard on the planet. There isn’t a player in the league that I love more to talk with, that I love more to watch play, than Paul.
Yet, he will have to go No. 2 on my ballot. He hasn’t been first-team All-NBA. He still hasn’t played in the postseason. His time is coming, and coming fast, but there’s time for Paul. Before Paul and LeBron James and maybe Dwyane Wade are 29 years old, they’ll probably have MVP trophies. Bryant’s wait has been long enough.
Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant, center, drives to the basket against Portland Trail Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge (12) during the second quarter of the basketball game at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, in this Feb. 26, 2008 file photo. Looking on is Lakers' Pau Gasol (16), from Spain, left. The league drew more than 4.2 million fans, its highest attendance ever in March, and sales at the NBA Store in New York were up 46 percent from the same period last year, part of its overall 15 percent increase for the season.
Those who believe in Bryant’s greatness are forever ripping the voting process, saying it’s a joke that he’ll never been named MVP. Normally, they don’t tell you what year that should’ve happened, who should’ve lost out. Once Tim Duncan had won his two MVP awards, Nash and Dirk Nowitzki were winning, the Lakers losing, and Bryant lost three straight times in his prime. In those years, the mediocre Laker teams crushed his candidacy.
Always, it was this: In the post-Shaq era, Bryant had to be playing for a contender. This was the voter’s mandate. As much as anything, Nowitzki was the best player on the 67-win Mavericks a year ago and it was declared his window, his time. To hear people say that they want to hold off voting to see who finishes the Western Conference with the better record – New Orleans or Los Angeles – is missing the point here.
Bryant doesn’t need the Lakers to finish with the best record in the regular season. When the Lakers are together, yes, they are the most talented team in the NBA. Only, they haven’t been together this season. The Lakers are still fighting for the No. 1 seed with Andrew Bynum out since the middle of January and Pau Gasol arriving in February and missing nine games in March.
The idea that an MVP has to do more with less is nonsense. For coach of the year, it’s a fairer argument. When Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were winning MVPs in the 1980s, who held their rosters against them?
No one ever made Nash reach a conference final – never mind win a title – to give him his first MVP. He came on late in his career to transform himself, but that was never necessary with Bryant. At 29, he’s been great for most of a decade. He’s paid his price for petulance. Joe Dumars is right: No more taking Bryant for granted.
His time, his trophy.
When you take someone else's article, you should at least provide a link.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...lug=aw-bryantformvp040908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Chris Paul deserves this one, hands down. Paul has always been a team player and he stepped his game up while making others around him better. He is the heart and soul of the Hornets squad. He knows and understands how to be a leader. He doesn't run away from the challenge leading a team to the top with a limited cast of talent, nor does he make trade demands or rat out teammates/coaches/management like Kobe.
Kobe practically wanted out of LA. Under his leadership, the Lakers constantly hovered around mediocrity until this year. You an attribute much of the Lakers' success to getting Gasol for practically nothing (didn't lose ANY of their 10 best players to get him). Bynum's injury actually cleared a potential logjam at the forward/center positions enabling Odom and Gasol to co-exist. With all of that talent around him, Kobe could be "the man" while not having to bust his butt off or whine to the press as much. If you have Kobe, Gasol, Odom, Bynum, best bench in the NBA, you SHOULD win 56+ games.
Odom is better backup than anyone CP has got.
so Lebron has no chance?
As a Lakers fan, point taken. But, it's kobe's turn...sad, but Chris Paul needs to wait for his turn.
I hate that. That's the exact reason why Kobe will get the MVP this year. He has the rings, and he's been in the league for so long, but he's never been an MVP. I feel that if the MVP is given out every season, then you have to give it to the most deserving person for that season. Regardless of what they've done in the past.
Um, people don't give enough credit to what Kobe had to do to even get the Lakers in the playoffs the past two years. They never seem to recognize that Smush Parker and Kwame Brown were freaking starters for him. These guys are HORRIBLE, and since being traded/let go have proven that to be so. Farmar was just a youngin', Vujacic couldn't hit the broad side of a barn despite hitting everything in practice, Vladimir Radmanovic went snowboarding, got injured, and lied about it. Odom was oft injured, in fact, the Lakers had a ridiculously decimated squad injury wise last year, OBSCENELY so, yet no one takes any of that into consideration.
Odom has NEVER been an all-star, not ONCE. He's not mean to be a go-to guy, the Lakers staff tried over and over to get him to be more agressive, but he's a natural born follower and fill in the blanks guy. As it turns, he's not the 1st option, nor 2nd option everyone wanted him to be since he came into the NBA, the reality is that he's a natural born 3rd. option...one of the best there is, but the Lakers could not have known that until now, as until Gasol and Bynum's emergence this year, the Lakers tried over and over to make him be their second option.
Luke Walton has about zero nba athleticism. Chris Mihm had the ankle sprain from hell. And so on and so forth.
People act like Chris Paul made Chandler good? Um, no Chandler was already pretty good, maybe not up to the hype he got when he came into the league, but he certainly wasn't no Kwame Brown who fumbled more absolute GIMME passes during his Laker tenure than any player I've ever seen in my entire life.
Chris Paul is surrounded by quality talent. Kobe was not. Farmar and Vujacic matured this year as young players do, Odom finally got to be a third option as the Lakers FINALLY got the second option they needed. Health hasn't been great, but better than last year. Fischer brought in much needed veteran leadership to the PG position. Vlad Rad finally decided to try and earn his paycheck, no snowboarding to date. No more team cancer in Smush "I make pouty faces for a living" Parker, and no more team morale booster with Kwame "my hands are made of stone" Brown.
Kobe was selfish last year? No, the ONLY reason the Lakers were even able to make the playoffs after all the injuries was because Kobe stepped up and did what he KNEW he had to do to give them any chance of making the playoffs. He single-handedly took the team on his shoulders and put in an INSANE effort scoring wise just to get them in. Even Phil Jackson was wowed by the herculean effort he put on to get them in there. Why do you think Kobe was ticked after the playoffs? Because he got no credit from all those who just wanted to say he's selfish, and never pointed out all the injuries his team went through, and just how historic the effort he put in was to even get them into the playoffs in the ridiculously tough West. Seriously, outside Kobe, and sorta Odom, just exactly what kind of quality was Kobe surrounded by? Remind me again?
Kobe always maintained that if you surround me with the same caliber of players that his fellow peers got (see Duncan, Nash, et. all), that'd he'd show he's not so selfish after all. Kobe's a winner, he wants to win above all else, and he'll do what it takes to win at the end of the day. If he needs to put on the superman cape and going on a scoring binge the likes of which the league has rarely if ever seen? He'll do it. This year, his team has finally matured, come of age, and has the level of talent he's been asking for all along? Now, wala, he's no longer seemingly so selfish.
Kobe is one of the most maligned players in the league, but overwhelming talent and genius will do that. He's a "can't win" type player, he's darned if he do, and darned if he don't. It's such a double standard. If he does the impossible to even get his team in the playoffs, he's selfish. If he passes the ball and his teammates are missing, he's trying to make an example of them and embarass them by exposing how lousy they really are and he's also selfish. I mean I think it's ridiculous. Look at how hard the guy tries, he just wants to win, period.
No one can EVER deny that this guy doesn't give 110% day in and day out and play through injuries like few in the history of the NBA ever have. He's got the talent and clutchness of Sampras with the dogged determination of Chang and Muster, and yet he's universally maligned. It's like he's tennis' version of Ivan Lendl, the most underappreciated superstar who can do know right. There's always something sinister lying under the surface.
Kobe's problem with the Lakers last year was not just their youth and inexperience and general lack of talent. One of if not his biggest gripe was that these guys did not take losing personally as he did. He said he would just see them joking around and laughing after losses, and he couldn't understand that mentality.
Kobe was very close to Fisher on the original Lakers' championship squads, and the reason he devoloped so much respect for him was that he saw him during the period where Fischer couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but he saw him get in there everyday and practice, practice, practice and through hard work finally become a competent even good shooter. Fisher was never that talented, but Kobe respected his work ethic. It's been said that Kobe's respect for a player is based on how hard he sees him working in practice. That's why he got on Bynum's case, because he didn't see him working hard enough. This year, he remedied that, no problems. Kobe AND coach Tex Winter's disdain (though the haters never ever mention this) for Shaq was built on the fact that the guy was LAZY and regularly flaunted it.
The Lakers are only successful because of Gasol and Byum this year? How about Kobe FINALLY gets a true second option, the one he's been asking for for years, and now they're fine? Odom, Smush, Chucky? They all shot career-HIGH's with Kobe so don't say he's not able to make players better. I mean let's see Jordan without Pippen, Rodman, Grant, and so on and so forth.
I don't care who you are, you MUST be surrounded by quality players if you expect to win in this league, one player's NEVER been enough.
Gasol won exactly how many playoff games without Kobe? Yeah, that's right...ZERO. No, that's not the number of playoff series he's won, yes, that's right he didn't win a SINGLE game in the playoffs.
Gasol is the PERFECT triangle PF fit offensively, should Kobe that be held against Kobe because he finally got a complimentary player who could actually play at an all-star level? Again, Odom has always been a model of inconsistency and has never been an all-star so stop acting like he is one.
If Odom's the only quality you can point to on your team besides your star, there's something wrong with your team in my opinion.
so Lebron has no chance?
Lebron won't get the MVP, although in my opinion he is the best player in the league. (not to be confused with the "MVP")
Kobe will probably win it, but I think that Chris Paul deserves it. Guy has been playing out of his mind! Also, in terms of being the most valuable to his team, where would New Orleans be without him? Not even in the playoffs in my opinion.
The Denver Nuggets put up a fight Monday night at the Pepsi Center, but the Los Angeles Lakers -- particularly Kobe Bryant -- would not be denied.
In the meantime, Smith was putting together the best playoff game of his four-year career. Smith hit all but one of the Nuggets' four 3-pointers and tallied nine points in the fourth quarter, at one point trading treys with Bryant, to lead Denver with 26 points.
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But as the old song goes, you don't tug on Superman's cape or pull the mask off the Lone Ranger -- or challenge "Black Mamba" down the stretch.
No matter which defender George Karl threw at No. 24 and no matter how well each stayed on him, Bryant came up with the bucket.
Watch highlights of Kobe Bryant's spectacular all-around performance as his 38 points on Sunday helped catapult the Lakers to a Game 1 triumph over the Jazz.
of course they are going to write about kobe.... would you rather they write about fisher's 5 pts?
I was afraid theyd give it to Paul
since the NBA seems to have a hard on for him nowadays.
But Kobe deserved it this year.
More than anyone else