NCAA Men's Tournament 2019

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
It's also interesting that there is no mention of Austin native Colin Markes, I don't think Center was that high on him and only took him as an afterthought. He really only got consistent playing time in singles this year and he turned out to be a big part of their team.
Yes, Markes signed late. He was a 4-star recruit who would not have affected the polling at the time, then became a good player over the years.
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
Interesting. How about Wake? Chrysochos is a senior that didn't have a bad career (national champion, national runner up, national indoor champion and runner up, multiple ACC championships, and multiple national singles and doubles national championships).
No doubt Chrysochos signed after the polling. At the time of the May 1, 2015 polling, Wake had no commitments.
 

Dawgie Dawg

Rookie
I told everyone on this thread when I saw the schedule with alternating men's and women's semifinals that the winner of the second men's semifinal would be at a disadvantage. Even with only Gojo's match going the distance in the late semifinal, Bresky indicated in his press conference that he thought that was a factor. There's not much shade at this facility and the heat is a big factor in central FL at this time of year. I know a person or two replied to me that these people are used to playing tough matches day after day blah blah blah - I hear that - but maybe not routinely in this relentless heat. Anyway, I think that just means the schedule should be tweaked in the future to make things more equitable - it's fine to have it in a hot climate

Also the UGA women played their semifinal second and looked a bit gassed in the final. They will have to adjust this in the future.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
it happens. eastern time zone is big change to adapt to. Next year is when he will put it all together as well as Axel.

They both should go pro. Especially Axel. Pretty sure he loses all his matches because he’s so bored he cannot sustain focus out there. Either that or he has a worse baseline game than Isner.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Cmon Melissa ,, you can do it girl. Lets do it for Stanford. We are Stanford. Melissa Lord is future pro in the making.

Lord.jpg
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
“(Insert Stanford player’s name) is a future top 20 pro!”
Say it enough and you’ll possibly be right someday.

I can remember as far back as Matt Bruch and Alex Clayton. Not sure who was officially the first person Feddie proclaimed would be the next Stanford player to rule the pro tour.
 

Okes

New User
And even for American players you have to win the whole thing for it to mean anything. Like what's the difference between losing round 1 and making the quarters? Especially if you're already an All-American
It’s a very prestigious tournament. It’s an honor to be in it in both singles and/or doubles. It’s a part of the college tennis experience.
Honestly if a player doesn’t want to bother. And a coach doesn’t make them play in it, that shows a lot about both the player and the coach.
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
I can remember as far back as Matt Bruch and Alex Clayton. Not sure who was officially the first person Feddie proclaimed would be the next Stanford player to rule the pro tour.
Matt Bruch is still going to win the French Open, just as Feddie predicted. He is just waiting for Nadal to retire.
 

jcgatennismom

Hall of Fame
The NCAA individual tournament this year shows that just because a player has more ATP points that does not mean he is the better player. Cressy ATP 313 and Challenger winner lost 4,2 to Botzer (no ATP, ITF world 1486 which might get him into the Qualis of a $15K outside the US w/o WC). Galarneau of NC State who gets WCs into Canadian Challengers lost 4,2 to Nuno Borges. Galarneau has an ATP ranking of 392 while Borges has an ATP ranking of 652 as he only has one ATP point from reaching the finals of one $25K last year-which would only get him in the Qualis of $25Ks this year. Borges won several $15Ks last year. I hope the rumors are true that ITF/ATP/WTA will get rid of the two separate ranking systems, and players will be able to earn ATP points in $15ks and $25Ks, and earn their way into Challenger Qualis again. There is supposed to be an announcement this month. Too bad talented college players-both US and international-aren't able to get into $25Ks or sometimes even $15K Qualis unless they have connections for a WC. Last year many collegians who played NCAA individuals at Wake hung around (or came back) and played the two $25K Winston Salem Future plus other collegians who didnt play NCAAs played at the Quali level. The first Wake Future last summer probably had the highest level of college players in the main draw-I think 26 of the 32 were either current, graduated or rising freshmen college players. It was almost like a European club circuit with Wake NCAAs, 2 $25K Futures followed by an ITA summer circuit at Wake Forest that drew some of the Future Quali players.

Maybe more top international players would stay around for NCAA individuals-even if they know they cant get US Open WC- if they knew they could get in summer US Futures like last year. Even if the rules change, collegians who played summer Futures last year may drop their 2018 summer ITF world and/or ATP points before revisions go into effect. For US players, the winner of the NCAAs gets a WC into a Challenger MD (as well as US Open WC?), the finalist gets a WC into a $25K MD, and the semifinalists get WCs into the Qualis of a $25K: https://s3.amazonaws.com/ustaassets...tive_pathway_merit_based_wild_cards_final.pdf US players who went deep in other top ITA tourneys also earn WCs per that document. Now last year collegians without any points or national rankings had a chance to get in $25K Future Qualis, qualify, and earn ATP points-would be great if those opportunities were restored.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Michaela Gordon, big time win over high seed McKenna jones. This is big for this Sophomore player who has pro potential. Lets keep it going, GO CARD. Next up jade hart of UCLA. In their last meeting , Mic dominated this opponent 6-4 6-4. Looks like Individual title in sight.

Gordon.jpg
 
Last edited:

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Michaela Gordon is listed as a sophomore not a senior, you really don't know anything do you? BTW, wasn't Tom Fawcett supposed in the ATP top 50 by now instead of nearly 500? You really need to stop.


(Fed/Nos edited his post after I posted this, he originally stated Gordon was a senior)
 
Last edited:

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Michaela Gordon is listed as a sophomore not a senior, you really don't know anything do you? BTW, wasn't Tom Fawcett supposed in the ATP top 50 by now instead of nearly 500? You really need to stop.
Fawcett is working hard to make it in ATP tour. his progress has been hampered by injuries
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Fawcett is working hard to make it in ATP tour. his progress has been hampered by injuries
Yes, of course, Stanford players always have injuries, always. Even after they leave. Tell us, what exactly is your obsession with Stanford? We all know you never went there. And what happened to 'future pro' Melissa Lord? Oh yeah, she lost in the 1st round...
 
Last edited:

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Yes, of course, Stanford players always have injuries, always. Even after they leave. Tell us, what exactly is your obsession with Stanford? We all know you never went there. And what happened to 'future pro' Melissa Lord? Oh yeah, she lost in the 1st round...
LOL,,,, how little you know.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
Michaela Gordon, big time win over high seed McKenna jones. This is big for this Sophomore player who has pro potential. Lets keep it going, GO CARD. Next up jade hart of UCLA. In their last meeting , Mic dominated this opponent 6-4 6-4. Looks like Individual title in sight.

Gordon.jpg

She also beat Jones in one of the two simultaneous clinching matches vs UNC in NCAA semis. Rough couple days for Jones - lose in 3 sets to a player to have your season come to an end in NCAA semis, then come back 48 hours later to have your singles campaign ended by the same player. Jones puts more RPMs on the ball, heavier shot, but Gordon was the more emotionally stable player and gave away less free points in the semis. I assume more of the same in individuals.
 

andfor

Legend
Yes, of course, Stanford players always have injuries, always. Even after they leave. Tell us, what exactly is your obsession with Stanford? We all know you never went there. And what happened to 'future pro' Melissa Lord? Oh yeah, she lost in the 1st round...
Is she stinky?
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Michaela Gordon lost 4 & 1 to Jada Hart so at least we won't have to see anymore huge pictures of Stanford players, posted by someone who never even went there, making outlandish, pie in the sky statements about them. But I am enjoying watching the matches, some good stuff. Liked the interview with Brandon Holt after his win today when he was asked what it's like to grow up in a household with a former World #1 and he answered 'I don't know what it's like to not grow up in a household with a World #1'--clever...
 
Last edited:

chris-swede

Hall of Fame
UNC Womens TEam should ve won easily the NCAAS. They have the best Players of all Teams, see the individuals, Graham, Morra, Davetiila all in 3rd round, Makenna Jones lost in 1st round, but thats a 4th great great Player! Plus 2 of the best doubles in Country with Jones/Morra and Aney/Graham. Still tough to understand they not won it all. They are no.1 for 2020 in my eyes as only Aney was a Senior. plus getting 2 Blue-Chips.
 
Last edited:

andfor

Legend
Totally enjoying the broadcast on the Tennis Channel. Good match last night between Wolf (StayPuff Marshmellow Man) and Vocel (Pillsbury Dough Boy) LOL. No offense to the boys, just kidding. High quality, super play and sportsmanship. Hope the TV coverage continues for the event next year in Stillwater.
 

Rattler

Hall of Fame
Totally enjoying the broadcast on the Tennis Channel. Good match last night between Wolf (StayPuff Marshmellow Man) and Vocel (Pillsbury Dough Boy) LOL. No offense to the boys, just kidding. High quality, super play and sportsmanship. Hope the TV coverage continues for the event next year in Stillwater.

Vocel had an intensity letdown when he didn’t call that Wolf forehand out on the baseline at breakpoint...to get the third set back on serve. Saw it and cringed...it was a great match either way.
 

andfor

Legend
Vocel had an intensity letdown when he didn’t call that Wolf forehand out on the baseline at breakpoint...to get the third set back on serve. Saw it and cringed...it was a great match either way.
Had the same thought on that no call. Good match. More to come like it tonight hopefully.
 
Totally enjoying the broadcast on the Tennis Channel. Good match last night between Wolf (StayPuff Marshmellow Man) and Vocel (Pillsbury Dough Boy) LOL. No offense to the boys, just kidding. High quality, super play and sportsmanship. Hope the TV coverage continues for the event next year in Stillwater.

The quality of the announcing has gone up during the individual matches. I guess the dual match format really throws people off.
 

Tcbtennis

Hall of Fame
I hope the rumors are true that ITF/ATP/WTA will get rid of the two separate ranking systems, and players will be able to earn ATP points in $15ks and $25Ks, and earn their way into Challenger Qualis again.

Where did you hear this rumor? I hope that it is true. These changes have definitely done harm to those young players who were moving their way up at the end of last year and then found out they couldn’t enter any tournaments in 2019.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
Riffice up a break at 3-1 in 3rd set vs Wolf!
(someone must be irritated to be on court in 95 degree weather with a big mop of hair on his head, playing against an inspired opponent at his home courts)
 
Last edited:

mikej

Hall of Fame
way to go, Riffice - outstanding performance
3-6,6-3,6-2

now let's get Crawford in the final 8 as well, tough match w Blumberg coming up
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
What on earth is up with this future ATP pro Wolf ?? only lost 1 match all year long, and now can't even make the quarterfinal. His strategy against Riffic was all wrong.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Is William Blumberg the favorite now ? if he wins, he should get the US open wildcard. another college player with no weapons. If Nunez wins, he isn't likely to get the wildcard. if just if somehow, Brandon Hold can get thru nunez in next round, his chances are good too. Tracy Austin should be happy if Holt wins.
 

Liam Grennon

Professional
Is William Blumberg the favorite now ? if he wins, he should get the US open wildcard. another college player with no weapons. If Nunez wins, he isn't likely to get the wildcard. if just if somehow, Brandon Hold can get thru nunez in next round, his chances are good too. Tracy Austin should be happy if Holt wins.
I'm sure all of there mothers would also be happy if they win.
 

EP1998

Semi-Pro
Totally enjoying the broadcast on the Tennis Channel. Good match last night between Wolf (StayPuff Marshmellow Man) and Vocel (Pillsbury Dough Boy) LOL. No offense to the boys, just kidding. High quality, super play and sportsmanship. Hope the TV coverage continues for the event next year in Stillwater.

That was a great match. Great to see it on TV. I could tell the commentators didnt do their research on Vocel and were going off his appearance - dude does look like he's spent his fair share of time at eskimo joes - but anyway - very high quality tennis. Could have easily been a challenger.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
That was a great match. Great to see it on TV. I could tell the commentators didnt do their research on Vocel and were going off his appearance - dude does look like he's spent his fair share of time at eskimo joes - but anyway - very high quality tennis. Could have easily been a challenger.
could have been a challenger ??????? not really. Ton of short balls, not being put away. 2nd serves that will be destroyed in the challenger tour. Too many balls in the middle without a purpose to them. In the tour, if the ball is hit into the middle, it is a ball that is crushed 2 inches from the baseline so they are trying to force a shorter ball on the next one.... Not to just save the point by just putting it back in play.....
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
So we have 2 singles players in the Quarter finals for North Carolina women's team. Obviously, NC has a great team, possibly more talented than Stanford overall as a team.... And yet Stanford keeps on winning, won last 3 NCAA titles. Every one of those 3 years, you can most likely say, there were at least 3 other teams just as talented or even more talented than Stanford team.

So what is going on here ?? Great coaching by Lele Forood ? Coach doesn't play a single point, we all know that. What do you guys think ?


Screen%20Shot%202019-05-19%20at%209.55.39%20PM.png
 

EP1998

Semi-Pro
could have been a challenger ??????? not really. Ton of short balls, not being put away. 2nd serves that will be destroyed in the challenger tour. Too many balls in the middle without a purpose to them. In the tour, if the ball is hit into the middle, it is a ball that is crushed 2 inches from the baseline so they are trying to force a shorter ball on the next one.... Not to just save the point by just putting it back in play.....

"too many balls in the middle without a purpose to them" that's not what was happening.
Also Wolf won a challenger earlier in the year and Vocel has won some futures events.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
"too many balls in the middle without a purpose to them" that's not what was happening.
Also Wolf won a challenger earlier in the year and Vocel has won some futures events.
yea but they weren't playing like they were in the challenger. so they lost
 

Doubles

Legend
could have been a challenger ??????? not really. Ton of short balls, not being put away. 2nd serves that will be destroyed in the challenger tour. Too many balls in the middle without a purpose to them. In the tour, if the ball is hit into the middle, it is a ball that is crushed 2 inches from the baseline so they are trying to force a shorter ball on the next one.... Not to just save the point by just putting it back in play.....
How many challengers has Fawcett won?
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
I'm disappointed that JJ "power of the mullet" Wolf lost today. Tough long match last night that finished late. Idk how fresh he was. He still should have won tonight. Guess I'll pull for Holt to win now.
 
C

Chadalina

Guest
Womens match is good, ump overrule (far line) to give a break at 6-5 in the third
 
I'm disappointed that JJ "power of the mullet" Wolf lost today. Tough long match last night that finished late. Idk how fresh he was. He still should have won tonight. Guess I'll pull for Holt to win now.

The mullet was a poor attempt to be a playoff hockey player and it cost him. Bad team and individual performance.
 
C

Chadalina

Guest
I'm disappointed that JJ "power of the mullet" Wolf lost today. Tough long match last night that finished late. Idk how fresh he was. He still should have won tonight. Guess I'll pull for Holt to win now.

Terrible scheduling, (2) 3 setters in 19-20 hours
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Interesting day today, the men's #1 seed continues to cruise, the #2 seed is upset by a freshman. The top 2 seeds in the women's event survive some very grueling matches. Some other good matches too, I'm impressed with the fight I'm seeing from both the men and women. I hope people are watching and getting a new perspective of college tennis.
 
Top