Need advices for 60yrs female beginner

Before reading this, yesterday I changed my poly string to multi gut (A-Addixion Natural 16G) string with 53 tension. I tried to changed to SG based on the esgee48 's advice. However, the shop lady recommended the multi....I accepted her suggestion :(
Today, I did one hour ball machine and one practice game with new string. Holy cow! I felt much softer when hitting balls (It should be much better for my right shoulder) and could hit without too much effort; but too often balls passed beyond the baseline. I had to give more top spine.

Next time, I may try hybrid string too. Thanks!
I string for friends only, and I jokingly offer them one free gut m/smooth poly x combo, and say "I'm just like your neighborhood crack dealer, your first rock is free, bwa ha ha....." Glad you were able to find something you like!
 
Last year, I started playing tennis (never played tennis before) and fell in love with tennis......because it helps my fitness and stress relief;

My current conditions are:
-2.5 self rated.
-During Winter 2022: a. 5.5 combo double: lost the first two matches and won the following two matches
b. 6.0 mixed double: won two matches and no lost
c. 2.5 single: lost all three matches
-During Summer 2022, I signed up 2.5 (18+), 3.0 (18+), 3.0 (40+), 5.5 combo mixed double, and 6.0 mixed double

I watches basic skill videos regularly, practices strokes with one hour long ball machine everyday (6 days per week), and attends at least two group lessons per week.

Through the winter leagues, somehow....learned about how to play doubles.
I want to keep playing tennis as long as possible and would like to improve my tennis (i.e. wanna be a computer rated 3.0 and good for single matches). I was wondering if you could give me some advices. Or…am I too late to achieve those goals?

Thanks:)
beyond the stroke... also get a topspinpro or similar and work on spacing from varying distances. it's something you can do a couple min at a time, throughout the day.

i'm teaching a 60y+ person now, and she can do a loop, make contact, but she's often off balance or "arming" mainly because her spacing to the ball is inconsistent (if i hand feed her, she does proper weight xfer, good extension/followthrogh... but as soon as the ball is moving, she starts manipulating her stroke to compensate for her poor spacing - eg. most common is opening the racquet face to compensate for being too far away, or too close, to contact
 
@TennisSunshine - re post #49 - that is why I was so specific about my string rec and tension. I have strung for all sorts of level players, from 3-4.0+ using all types of strings. Beginners almost never need multi filaments like Addiction. Shop should have asked you some questions cus your tension is too low.
 
If your swing does not feel completely natural and allow you to hit as hard as you want, then don’t put up with it.


There is a technique out there where you don’t have to struggle, which never feels awkward. Don’t accept anything less.

if you are fighting against the way your joints work, natural swing paths just stop right there and change what you are doing
 
Last year, I started playing tennis (never played tennis before) and fell in love with tennis......because it helps my fitness and stress relief;

My current conditions are:
-2.5 self rated.
-During Winter 2022: a. 5.5 combo double: lost the first two matches and won the following two matches
b. 6.0 mixed double: won two matches and no lost
c. 2.5 single: lost all three matches
-During Summer 2022, I signed up 2.5 (18+), 3.0 (18+), 3.0 (40+), 5.5 combo mixed double, and 6.0 mixed double

I watches basic skill videos regularly, practices strokes with one hour long ball machine everyday (6 days per week), and attends at least two group lessons per week.

Through the winter leagues, somehow....learned about how to play doubles.
I want to keep playing tennis as long as possible and would like to improve my tennis (i.e. wanna be a computer rated 3.0 and good for single matches). I was wondering if you could give me some advices. Or…am I too late to achieve those goals?

Thanks:)
sunshine
if you have a reasonable level of fitness and athleticism you can up bring up your level.
sounds like you are commited with the practices and group lessons.
tennis takes a lot of practice and skill development.
things will not happen overnight.
perhaps if you have the resources, private lessons will help accerlate your development
good luck
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@TennisSunshine - re post #49 - that is why I was so specific about my string rec and tension. I have strung for all sorts of level players, from 3-4.0+ using all types of strings. Beginners almost never need multi filaments like Addiction. Shop should have asked you some questions cus your tension is too low.
Oh no! I may go to another shop.....to change the string to"SG with 55 tension" if it made my hitting too powerful.....and I could not control the power by next week.
 
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I string for friends only, and I jokingly offer them one free gut m/smooth poly x combo, and say "I'm just like your neighborhood crack dealer, your first rock is free, bwa ha ha....." Glad you were able to find something you like!
Haha.....I am an immigrant....English is my third language. I am still learning English and Tennis!!!
 
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sunshine
if you have a reasonable level of fitness and athleticism you can up bring up your level.
sounds like you are commited with the practices and group lessons.
tennis takes a lot of practice and skill development.
things will not happen overnight.
perhaps if you have the resources, private lessons will help accerlate your development
good luck
z

z
Thanks:)
 
My advice to a 60 yr old beginner is to play pickleball.

Good recommendation! I know my activity level will be diminished as time goes. However, I would like to learn "tennis" at this moment because today is my youngest day I will ever be. I think learnig pickleball first and then learning tennis later is not great idea for my case. Someday I have more time... maybe after retiring from work, wish to learn pickleball too:) Thanks!
 
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beyond the stroke... also get a topspinpro or similar and work on spacing from varying distances. it's something you can do a couple min at a time, throughout the day.

i'm teaching a 60y+ person now, and she can do a loop, make contact, but she's often off balance or "arming" mainly because her spacing to the ball is inconsistent (if i hand feed her, she does proper weight xfer, good extension/followthrogh... but as soon as the ball is moving, she starts manipulating her stroke to compensate for her poor spacing - eg. most common is opening the racquet face to compensate for being too far away, or too close, to contact
Thanks for the advice! I have a very bad two-hand backhand stroke because I hit a ball too close :(
 
If your swing does not feel completely natural and allow you to hit as hard as you want, then don’t put up with it.


There is a technique out there where you don’t have to struggle, which never feels awkward. Don’t accept anything less.

if you are fighting against the way your joints work, natural swing paths just stop right there and change what you are doing
Thank a lot for your advice!!!
 
A friend I had years ago was still playing doubles tournaments with his greatgrandchildren at age 93.
Don't fall into the pickleball trap.
(BTW - I am 66 this month and playing a small tournament in the open division this weekend, I was about 30 when I started playing)
 
My advice to a 60 yr old beginner is to play pickleball.
probably good to do, to supplement learning tennis
analagous to using red ball. the ball will move slower, can start developing foot/eye coordination and spacing with success, and it's a fun game based way to learn.
probably more fun than doing feeds from a basket
just remember to stick to tennis :P
 
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probably good to do, to supplement learning tennis
analagous to using red ball. the ball will move slower, can start developing foot/eye coordination and spacing with success, and it's a fun game based way to learn.
probably more fun than doing feeds from a basket
just remember to stick to tennis :p

That is better done later I think. Tennis is very difficult to learn and you will need to spend every spare moment of your life on it to come to a level when someone would want to hit with you. Spending time on Pickleball will divert time and energy and money.
 
That is better done later I think. Tennis is very difficult to learn and you will need to spend every spare moment of your life on it to come to a level when someone would want to hit with you. Spending time on Pickleball will divert time and energy and money.
true true.
i’m just thinking of all the times i didn’t have someone to practice with or the desire to practice alone (wall, self feeds, serving,… can be boring)…. in the end tennis is supposed to be social, else id just play vid games all day… so if I were a beginner I think mixing in pickle al would give me my fix for camaraderie while also building a skill that is applicable to tennis.
 
Last year, I started playing tennis (never played tennis before) and fell in love with tennis......because it helps my fitness and stress relief;
Awesome. I started as a 'substitute' for my neighborhood's Wednesday night mixed social league in 2016. When my kids got older, I played as a regular in 2018. I started attending group tennis clinics in 2018.

I did play tennis for two (2) summers while in middle school (80s). By the time I restarted in 2016, I could not remember how to hit topspin, so I just slice on my forehand and backhand.


I watches basic skill videos regularly, practices strokes with one hour long ball machine everyday (6 days per week), and attends at least two group lessons per week.
I found weekly clinic were helpful to meet more players, but they did not improve my game much. I really started to see improvement when I started to take weekly private lessons in 2019.


Through the winter leagues, somehow....learned about how to play doubles. I want to keep playing tennis as long as possible and would like to improve my tennis (i.e. wanna be a computer rated 3.0 and good for single matches). I was wondering if you could give me some advices. Or…am I too late to achieve those goals?
Here is what worked for me to improve.
  1. Weekly private lesson (1 hour) with tennis pro. You need to tell the pro what your goals are and what you want to work on or improve.
  2. Weekly group lesson (1.5 hour). You can meet new players, and find new hitting partners.
  3. Practice at least 3 times per week. This can be private lesson, group lesson, serve practice, shadow swings, drop feeds, ball machine, or hitting with a partner. (Hitting partner > ball machine > drop feeds).
  4. Play at least one match per week (singles or doubles). This lets me know what's working or not working and gives me ideas on what I need to improve on. My coach will also make recommendations based on match feedback.
  5. Enjoy the process
 
cks, to expand on your good advice, "Hitting partner > ball machine > drop feeds" The inverse of this is how you begin to master a stroke that you can use in a match.

Drop feeds or hand feeds from a partner/coach are level one, the ball is always there, always in the same position, little or no pace. Maximum focus available on technique.
Level two is a feed from across the net from a partner/coach
level three is a ball machine
level four is full court rallying
level five is hitting the shot during a clinic drill when "playing out the point"
level six is hitting the shot during match play.
 
Ditch the group lessons - instructors don’t really teach anything other than “hit low to high” and other useless platitudes. They don’t work on your personal progress. Spend some money on private lessons who will give you better technique.

Ball machine is a great way for beginners to ingrain bad habits, in the absence of good instruction. Practice smart. Only do ball machine to drill things you learned. Either way, 6 days a week is killing your body and generally wasting so much time.

Some people swear by walls. Go ahead and try it, but it’s worse than machine. Terrible for beginners. The ball comes back from the other side in half the time and doesn’t let you swing properly. You hit inconsistently, it comes back all over the place and frustrate you.

Live partners are much better than (except some situations) machines or walls. If you can bribe a 3.5-4.0 player to hit with you, that’s great. Buy them coffee, margaritas, and reciprocate by doing whatever is important to them together. Tennis players are a nice crowd. Practically anyone will agree to hit with you at least once as long as you ask. And if they like you, they will probably agree to continue doing that.
 
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Hey, thanks, ya'all!

OP, I started in my mid-40s as a self-rated 2.5. I'm 60 now. Looking back on it, there are a few things I would do differently, so here goes.

I started off taking group lessons and drill classes. I now think those situations are horrible for a beginner who only has so much time. By that I mean, you cannot go out and hit hundreds of balls because you'll probably hurt yourself, e.g. tennis elbow. The pros in those group classes are not there to help you learn good technique. And you won't. I would suggest weekly one-hour private lessons if you can swing it. If not, every two weeks. Instructional time is valuable to build muscle memory, so don't squander it in a drill class where someone feeds you three FHs, gives no meaningful feedback, and you go to the back of the line to hit three BHs.

OnTheLine gives great advice if cost is an issue. Doing a 90-minute semi-private lesson is a great way to improve. You get a ton of instruction, and you also get to hit balls coming off of your lesson partner's racket. Maybe introduce that once you've developed a relationship with a pro? Also, I am a big fan of "private clinics." This is where you get three others (preferably teammates) to do 90 minutes to two hours with a pro. This helps get you all on the same page regarding positioning and teamwork, which will win you a lot of matches.

Which leads me to my next point: Practice. Practice what your pro is teaching you. I went years only taking lessons and playing matches. It wasn't until I found a practice partner that I really made progress. How do you find a practice partner? Ask your pro to put you in touch with his or her other students. Right now, I am trying to straighten out my net game and FH, and I am using a practice approach I've never done before. I take a lesson and then go immediately to the indoor facility that has a ball machine. I set it to feed balls to work on the exact skill we just worked on (last week, it was stepping into low volleys on both sides). Lo and behold, I volleyed really well this week.

And how do you find a pro? The same way you find a car: test drive them. Because you're 60, there will be pros who will not take you seriously when you say you want to improve. That's OK. Keep looking until you find a good one. The pro is "good" if they focus on building one skill at a time with an emphasis on developing muscle memory. The pro is not good if they blow sunshine up your skirt and take your money.

I would also say it is important to do things properly from the beginning. Use the correct grip, always. Do not take shortcuts to get results now.

And finally, and perhaps most important . . . please do not become a thirsty rating-obsessed diva. It's not the rating that matters. It's the tennis skills. If you improve, you will move up, if that's what you want.

Good luck, and please stick around and tell us about your adventures!

This woman makes sense. Don’t worry about a lot of convoluted advice from other people. Any beginner racquet (comes already strung with beginner strings), any shoes sold at TW are fine.
 
Before reading this, yesterday I changed my poly string to multi gut (A-Addixion Natural 16G) string with 53 tension. I tried to changed to SG based on the esgee48 's advice. However, the shop lady recommended the multi....I accepted her suggestion :(
Today, I did one hour ball machine and one practice game with new string. Holy cow! I felt much softer when hitting balls (It should be much better for my right shoulder) and could hit without too much effort; but too often balls passed beyond the baseline. I had to give more top spine.

Next time, I may try hybrid string too. Thanks!

Forget top spine. Use topspin instead :p
 
Ditch the group lessons - instructors don’t really teach anything other than “hit low to high” and other useless platitudes. They don’t work on your personal progress. Spend some money on private lessons who will give you better technique.

Agreed, private one-on-one lessons are much better to work on "your game" and improve technique. And if I could only pay for one class per week, I would rather spend it on a private lesson rather than a group lesson.

However, I find that group tennis lessons do have some upside. You get to play tennis and meet other players, and group lessons can be a nice way find other potential hitting partners.
 
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