Need an advice: Hyper G vs Hyper G Soft

[squall]

Hi guys,

I've been testing HG 1.05mm on my Clash 100 (strung at 20,5/20 kg) and today I've tested HG Soft 1.15mm strung at (21/20,5 kg). What I have found is that with the regular Hyper G I felt more connected to the ball, I don't know how to name it - I just could feel the ball while making shots and with HG Soft I just hm... couldn't feel the ball that much - I didn't feel that I actually hit the ball. Anyway I don't say that HG Soft didn't work for me - it also played great, but subjectively I felt less connected to the ball with Hyper G Soft - the ball was landing where I wanted, but with the regular HG I excatly knew where the ball is going to land.
My main questions are:
1. if you have the same feelings with them both,
2. are my feelings maybe because of the gauge of the string or that extra 1kg?
3. Maybe I just prefer stiffer strings (even though I thought I prefered soft ones?)? Maybe you'd tell me why I'm confused.

I'm confused because I'm planning to buy a reel, but I'm not sure which one I should choose. Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[drak]

Hi guys,

I've been testing HG 1.05mm on my Clash 100 (strung at 20,5/20 kg) and today I've tested HG Soft 1.15mm strung at (21/20,5 kg). What I have found is that with the regular Hyper G I felt more connected to the ball, I don't know how to name it - I just could feel the ball while making shots and with HG Soft I just hm... couldn't feel the ball that much - I didn't feel that I actually hit the ball. Anyway I don't say that HG Soft didn't work for me - it also played great, but subjectively I felt less connected to the ball with Hyper G Soft - the ball was landing where I wanted, but with the regular HG I excatly knew where the ball is going to land.
My main questions are:
1. if you have the same feelings with them both,
2. are my feelings maybe because of the gauge of the string or that extra 1kg?
3. Maybe I just prefer stiffer strings (even though I thought I prefered soft ones?)? Maybe you'd tell me why I'm confused.

I'm confused because I'm planning to buy a reel, but I'm not sure which one I should choose. Thanks in advance for any advice.

well if you do not have any arm issues stay with regular Hyper G. Bottom line is I would forget about "feeling" the ball and where it is going to land stuff to an extent - what were the RESULTS? Do you play better with one string or the other?

 

[squall]

I don't have any issues, I'm 20 years old so... Results were pretty simillar, but it was nice feeling to "know where the ball is going to land". Hyper G Soft felt a bit muted for me, like: it felt like muting much more vibrations, I just can't feel the "weight of the ball" with it.
In a nutshell: in my opinion regular Hyper G offers more control, but I don't know if it was just today, or my feelings are right. I decided to ask you, because I can maybe analize too much and my feelings could just be the result of this one day.

 

[gebruikershaes]

Funny I had the same lack of feel with regular hyperG 1.05 gauge. I did string it a bit higher at 23kg. It felt like I was hitting tiny flies instead of balls. Great string but lack of feel bothered me. It did improve a bit after the strings settled. Say after 2 hours of hitting.
If you like hyperG regular 1.05 but want to try soft, try it in the same gauge at same tension for a fair comparison. 1.15 soft at higher tension is probably stiffer than 1.05 regular at lower tension.

 

[squall]

You probably misunderstood me - I didn't have lack of feel with regular Hyper G- I find it better with the feel and control than with the Hyper G Soft.
You advised me not to put 1.05 on my Clash 100 anymore as it started moving after one hour, that's why I bought 1.15 hyperg Soft (there are not even thinner than 1.15 Hyper G soft on the market).

 

[gebruikershaes]

I did understand you quite well. You have feel with regular hyperG and no feel with soft. I've never tried soft but I found that the regular had no feel either. I don't know who advised you to go with 1.15 but that wasn't me.
All I'm saying is you have to compare apples with apples to have a fair comparison. Thinner strings of the same string or similar, like in this case, are going to offer more feel by default so that's apples and pears.

 

[squall]

So I'll probably buy a set of regular Hyper G 1.15 to be sure if my thoughts were right before I buy reel.

 

[gebruikershaes]

Yeah and string it at the same tension on the same machine.

 

[PKorda]

I preferred the Hyper G to the soft version for one of the reasons you stated, the soft felt more muted. Some people will prefer a muted feel but if you don't and you don't have any issues with your arm, get the regular. And not saying I didn't like the soft, I would switch to that if I ever started feeling arm discomfort.

 

[socallefty]

I like HyperG Soft better as it feels more comfortable to me and therefore I end up playing with it for about 20-22 hours while HyperG feels too harsh for me after 15 hours. Even when they are both new, I find HyperG Soft to be more comfortable. Otherwise, performance in terms of power, control, spin etc. seem pretty similar. After playing with HyperG for about six months, I switched to HyperG Soft. I string in the mid-forties.

 

[Stratotanker]

I like HyperG Soft better as it feels more comfortable to me and therefore I end up playing with it for about 20-22 hours while HyperG feels too harsh for me after 15 hours. Even when they are both new, I find HyperG Soft to be more comfortable. Otherwise, performance in terms of power, control, spin etc. seem pretty similar. After playing with HyperG for about six months, I switched to HyperG Soft. I string in the mid-forties.

Quick question for you:

I'm a few hours into my first gut/poly hybrid at 52/gut/main and 48/poly/crosses. I'm used to playing full beds of Hyper-G but my wrist (and serve) are big fans of the gut blend. Assuming it doesn't snap in the next ten hours or so, how do you determine when the poly crosses are dead? Just by feel (the harshness you mentioned) or do you find the bed gets a bit springy (like a full poly job after a bit too much hitting?). I don't have a lot of natural gut experience.

This string job isn't crossed with Hyper-G but I'll probably give it a shot, as I've liked it in full beds for years now. I'm a bit worried about the shaped crosses sawing through the gut too quickly, but time will tell (I'm only about 3-4 hours in on this gut experiment).

 

[socallefty]

Quick question for you:

I'm a few hours into my first gut/poly hybrid at 52/gut/main and 48/poly/crosses. I'm used to playing full beds of Hyper-G but my wrist (and serve) are big fans of the gut blend. Assuming it doesn't snap in the next ten hours or so, how do you determine when the poly crosses are dead? Just by feel (the harshness you mentioned) or do you find the bed gets a bit springy (like a full poly job after a bit too much hitting?). I don't have a lot of natural gut experience.

This string job isn't crossed with Hyper-G but I'll probably give it a shot, as I've liked it in full beds for years now. I'm a bit worried about the shaped crosses sawing through the gut too quickly, but time will tell (I'm only about 3-4 hours in on this gut experiment).

For me the poly is dead when it starts feeling harsh and I usually cut it out. It takes longer for the tension to drop enough where the control gets erratic. With every poly I’ve tried they go dead and feel harsh well before the tension drops enough to have erratic control - so, I no longer worry about the tension maintenance spec and worry more about the stiffness spec because it feels like the stiffer the poly, the sooner it goes dead. ALU Power goes dead in 7-8 hours, Cyclone Tour in 10-12 hours, HyperG in 15-17 hours and HyperG Soft in 20-22 hours.

I also play most often with VS17 gut mains/HyperG Soft 18 crosses at 47/44 on a Pure Strike Tour and it stays comfortable for about 20 hours which is around the time I break the gut. With gut/HyperG hybrids, I usually had to cut out the strings after 15-17 hours due to the harsh feel in many cases before I broke the gut. The amount of time it takes to break the gut will depend on the player - how often you have mishits, how much topspin you hit etc. No one can predict how long a particular hybrid will last for you on your racquet - you just have to try it out and see how it goes.

 

[Stratotanker]

For me the poly is dead when it starts feeling harsh and I usually cut it out. It takes longer for the tension to drop enough where the control gets erratic. With every poly I’ve tried they go dead and feel harsh well before the tension drops enough to have erratic control - so, I no longer worry about the tension maintenance spec and worry more about the stiffness spec because it feels like the stiffer the poly, the sooner it goes dead. ALU Power goes dead in 7-8 hours, Cyclone Tour in 10-12 hours, HyperG in 15-17 hours and HyperG Soft in 20-22 hours.

I also play most often with VS17 gut mains/HyperG Soft 18 crosses at 47/44 on a Pure Strike Tour and it stays comfortable for about 20 hours which is around the time I break the gut. With gut/HyperG hybrids, I usually had to cut out the strings after 15-17 hours due to the harsh feel in many cases before I broke the gut. The amount of time it takes to break the gut will depend on the player - how often you have mishits, how much topspin you hit etc. No one can predict how long a particular hybrid will last for you on your racquet - you just have to try it out and see how it goes.

Thanks for this!

 

[blai212]

i feel like HG/HGS sharp edges wear smooth quite fast...signum pro poly plasma hextreme maintains sharpness better and has similar playability/tension maintenance...it is certainly worth a look