Need help from Lead tape's experts!!!

dante.hua

New User
I currently using Prince Textreme Tour 100T and find it quite unstable against big hitter (spin).
I've read some advise for Leadtape customization that to increase sweetspot and stability, add 3-5gr lead at 3-9 each and also at 7 or 12

Is it correct? I love to swing more HL racquet but i don't know is this set up allow that?

Please help!

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zalive

Hall of Fame
You need lead at 3+9 o'clock (3-5 grams sounds fine). You can counterbalance it with similar grams at the butt (3-5 grams). It will improve stability in both relevant directions (twist stability, recoil stability).
 

dante.hua

New User
You need lead at 3+9 o'clock (3-5 grams sounds fine). You can counterbalance it with similar grams at the butt (3-5 grams). It will improve stability in both relevant directions (twist stability, recoil stability).
The butt you mean lead at 6 o'clock, right? Or put silicone into the handle (which i'm not intend to do so)


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zalive

Hall of Fame
The butt you mean lead at 6 o'clock, right? Or put silicone into the handle (which i'm not intend to do so)

I meant the handle, right near the butt cap. Silicone is harder to change quantity, I suggest eather putty inside the handle, or lead tape wrapped around, under the basic grip. This is great for recoil stability, meaning you will get some effective stability+power against hard hits because racquet tends to rotate around its center of mass when it collides with the ball. So aside of preserving head light balance it actually helps both stability and power when you're hard pressed by your opponent's balls.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
You can also stick lead tape to the trap door, or put on a heavier grip.

Heavier grip will change how racquet swings significantly, it will usually make it swing faster because of changing pendulum mass distribution (MgR/I). It can be a good thing though and improve the racquet, but it can also make things worse.
 
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dante.hua

New User
Ok. So wrap leadtape around the grip under the overgrip (or the replacement grip??)
Do i need to changle the grip with leather??

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zalive

Hall of Fame
Under the basic/replacement grip. You don't need to change the basic/replacement grip. Whether you want to try this is up to you, but if you do be prepare to experience the change how it swings, for the better or worse, I cannot tell. Suggested customization with adding mass at the 3+9 o'clock and at the butt cap will make least change in how racquet swings currently. So it's up to how you're satisfied. Besides, there are syntetic heavier grips as well, leather is not the only option.

If I were you I'd try without a heavier grip as I proposed, then decide if it feels fine or you want to try something yet different.
 

dante.hua

New User
Ok. I will start with 3 grams at 3 and 9 o'clock per each side and 3 gram under the basic grip.
Thanks a lot!

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Simplicius

Semi-Pro
Try also the 3g+3g on 10-2.

Sometimes leading only on 9-3 makes the racquet to feel strange...
Mainly when you hit above 9-3 axon and on the serves (the balls are flying high & far).

You don't have to counterbalance that 6 gs.
Try first just that.
 

dante.hua

New User
Excellent, better to start with smaller, then see if you need more ;)
Hey man, i just added some at 3 and 9 of the 100T and felt way more solid on contact, obviously felt more power as i do the volley session at the wall.

Do i need to add some at 12 o'clock because i want more consistent on groundies? I not often go for the net so is it ok to do that?

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zalive

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Hey man, i just added some at 3 and 9 of the 100T and felt way more solid on contact, obviously felt more power as i do the volley session at the wall.

Do i need to add some at 12 o'clock because i want more consistent on groundies? I not often go for the net so is it ok to do that?

Did you counterbalance at the handle (near the butt cap) as well?
Because this brings even more solidity to hitting.

You can introduce more grams at any side, at your will. But if you introduce lead at 12 o'clock it will slow down swing speed a bit...which is fine if it is pretty fast, but otherwise you need to countebalance, only at the top of the handle (with 2 grams for 1 gram added to 12 o'clock).
Also, how do you like how your racquet currently swings? Does it feel right, or you feel racquet's head lags a bit through the swing? This can be compensated at the top of the handle, too.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Did you counterbalance at the handle (near the butt cap) as well?
Because this brings even more solidity to hitting.

You can introduce more grams at any side, at your will. But if you introduce lead at 12 o'clock it will slow down swing speed a bit...which is fine if it is pretty fast, but otherwise you need to countebalance, only at the top of the handle (with 2 grams for 1 gram added to 12 o'clock).
Also, how do you like how your racquet currently swings? Does it feel right, or you feel racquet's head lags a bit through the swing? This can be compensated at the top of the handle, too.

Do you have to counter-balance exactly the same weight? If I add more weight, would it make things worse (*instead of just making it more HL) because I messed with racket's intended balance?.
 

dante.hua

New User
Did you counterbalance at the handle (near the butt cap) as well?
Because this brings even more solidity to hitting.

You can introduce more grams at any side, at your will. But if you introduce lead at 12 o'clock it will slow down swing speed a bit...which is fine if it is pretty fast, but otherwise you need to countebalance, only at the top of the handle (with 2 grams for 1 gram added to 12 o'clock).
Also, how do you like how your racquet currently swings? Does it feel right, or you feel racquet's head lags a bit through the swing? This can be compensated at the top of the handle, too.
I swing pretty hard so sometimes the racquet head lag a little and slow me down to make a clear contact point. Obviously it caused because of my techniques also :))

I feel ok with this current racquet head speed. The swingweight 317gr is 9/10 for my ability also (i could handle below 325gr sw). The problem of this 100T without LT is my 2nd-BH kind of not much power and consistent when i give it a massive hit to put my opponent away from the court (also with the Fh but not happen much)

About the LT at the handle, do i put it around the handle at the end of it or put LT straight from the bottom to the top?

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zalive

Hall of Fame
Do you have to counter-balance exactly the same weight? If I add more weight, would it make things worse (*instead of just making it more HL) because I messed with racket's intended balance?.

There's no rule, you can put just half and you'll preserve the balance you had prior to adding lead at the hoop. However it doesn't mean making it more HL will mess anything up. As with everything, you may like it better, or worse, or find it pretty similar. Has to be tried.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
I swing pretty hard so sometimes the racquet head lag a little and slow me down to make a clear contact point. Obviously it caused because of my techniques also :))

I feel ok with this current racquet head speed. The swingweight 317gr is 9/10 for my ability also (i could handle below 325gr sw). The problem of this 100T without LT is my 2nd-BH kind of not much power and consistent when i give it a massive hit to put my opponent away from the court (also with the Fh but not happen much)

About the LT at the handle, do i put it around the handle at the end of it or put LT straight from the bottom to the top?

I usually wrap it around, however it's a personal choice. Very top where handle narrows down is a good spot to wrap around, since it won't bother a DHBH grip.
 

xFullCourtTenniSx

Hall of Fame
Hey man, i just added some at 3 and 9 of the 100T and felt way more solid on contact, obviously felt more power as i do the volley session at the wall.

Do i need to add some at 12 o'clock because i want more consistent on groundies? I not often go for the net so is it ok to do that?

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Weight at 12 won't increase consistency. The only thing that can increase consistency is you yourself or increasing twistweight to help off center hits. Weight at 12 will increase power, which means you can rely on your racket to do the work while you control the shot.

Do you have to counter-balance exactly the same weight? If I add more weight, would it make things worse (*instead of just making it more HL) because I messed with racket's intended balance?.

No. Counterbalancing is more for obtaining a specific things like recoil weight, MgR/I, or a lower center of mass. You don't have to do it. Federer doesn't. Nadal does. A lot of (if not all) Head players do it due to having very light pro-stock rackets to start with. It really depends on how much weight you added. If you added a minor amount to an already heavy or very head light racket, don't worry about it. If you added a ton or are working with a light racket, then yeah, probably look to pop the balance back up.

I swing pretty hard so sometimes the racquet head lag a little and slow me down to make a clear contact point. Obviously it caused because of my techniques also :))

I feel ok with this current racquet head speed. The swingweight 317gr is 9/10 for my ability also (i could handle below 325gr sw). The problem of this 100T without LT is my 2nd-BH kind of not much power and consistent when i give it a massive hit to put my opponent away from the court (also with the Fh but not happen much)

About the LT at the handle, do i put it around the handle at the end of it or put LT straight from the bottom to the top?

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The head is supposed to lag, but that shouldn't cause any issues with making proper contact.

You're confusing swingweight for static weight. Swingweight is measured in kg*cm*cm. Static weight is measured in grams. The 6 grams you added to the head would already make up more than twice the 8 unit distance you quote for your limit.

If you're having problems with power and consistency on your backhand, you need to work on your backhand technique. If you're consistently missing in a specific way, you can try to modify your equipment to help a bit.
 
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