Need ideas to replace 350g Yonex DR98, striving for more connected feel.

Dragy

Hall of Fame
Hey folks, although my pair of Ezone DR98s is still in good shape and playing well, I was wondering what options I may consider to improve feel-wise, namely shift the current rather muted setup to some more crisp, or connected, or I dunno what feel :laughing:

My current setup is leaded up to 350g mass, ~333 SW, 8pts HL, strung with Tourna BH Silver 1.25 initially at 24kg. Since using slick poly I tamed the launch angle and am pretty satisfied with how it performs.

I'd like to talk around that topic, have some fun, and also be ready with solutions once something bad haappens to my sticks (or my mood) :unsure:
 

galapagos

Semi-Pro
this will sound like a broken record probably but you should demo Angell TC 95 16x19 . I've been playing with many great racquets.... blade 18x20 from 2015, Yonex DR blue, ig prestige mp, prestige touch mp, blade CV 18x20, Yonex VCORE pro.. All had something cool about them but I am always coming back to angell :) Its not like angell is any better because its a matter of preference but OVERALL it wins for me and obviously there are many things taken into consideration. Spec control, playability, price tag...Dammm...even painjob sometimes haha.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
Hey folks, although my pair of Ezone DR98s is still in good shape and playing well, I was wondering what options I may consider to improve feel-wise, namely shift the current rather muted setup to some more crisp, or connected, or I dunno what feel :laughing:

My current setup is leaded up to 350g mass, ~333 SW, 8pts HL, strung with Tourna BH Silver 1.25 initially at 24kg. Since using slick poly I tamed the launch angle and am pretty satisfied with how it performs.

I'd like to talk around that topic, have some fun, and also be ready with solutions once something bad haappens to my sticks (or my mood) :unsure:
Have you tried gut/poly for more feel/connected?
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
I used to play the DR98, with a leather grip / overgrip / 2g of lead at 3+9 / strung with Hyper G 17, bringing it close to 345g.

High quality frame, good on the arm, while providing good power. But I never felt connected to the ball, the racquet was feeling hollow at times. Hard to describe, but it wasn't doing it for me.

Eventually settled with the Prince Phantom Pro 100P, which has a fairly high SW at 330 in stock form, a decent pop with the 100sq.in. frame / 16x18 pattern though it's a control oriented racquet, and soft on the arm. Really pleased with the control and feel of the racquet. Launch angle is fairly high, but in my case it's a good thing as I was looking for more net clearance and depth. I don't have a game that relies on massive amounts of spin, but with a good poly (Hyper G 16L), the balls are not flying on me. It does require a relatively low tension at 22/23 kg to offer some free power, and a 16L or 16 gauge as the 17 breaks too quickly with an open string pattern.

Worth a try, in my view, and would lend itself well to customization.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
Have you tried gut/poly for more feel/connected?
That should be tried! Actually made my father try a hybrid to make his Bab frame more comfortable, and was curious how it would work for me... But somehow forgot to. Thanks for reminder!
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
Launch angle is fairly high, but in my case it's a good thing as I was looking for more net clearance and depth.
That’s actually always a back and forth thing for me :laughing: these days I at times change my mind and want badly to better shape my shots going for more leg drive and steeper swingpath, but so far it feels better than trying to tame the over-high trajectory :rolleyes:
 

Anton

Legend
Hey folks, although my pair of Ezone DR98s is still in good shape and playing well, I was wondering what options I may consider to improve feel-wise, namely shift the current rather muted setup to some more crisp, or connected, or I dunno what feel :laughing:

My current setup is leaded up to 350g mass, ~333 SW, 8pts HL, strung with Tourna BH Silver 1.25 initially at 24kg. Since using slick poly I tamed the launch angle and am pretty satisfied with how it performs.

I'd like to talk around that topic, have some fun, and also be ready with solutions once something bad haappens to my sticks (or my mood) :unsure:
Take the dampner off.
 

sma1001

Hall of Fame
Feel is such a subjective concept that it's difficult to give advice. If the racquet si simply too dampened for you then steps such as a skin feel grip, or a stiffer string, might help you. On the other hand if you mean that you can't get the "touch" shots right (e.g drop shots) then gut mains might help that.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
Feel is such a subjective concept that it's difficult to give advice. If the racquet si simply too dampened for you then steps such as a skin feel grip, or a stiffer string, might help you. On the other hand if you mean that you can't get the "touch" shots right (e.g drop shots) then gut mains might help that.
It’s more about very muted feedback, I don’t feel much difference once hit more powerful or more gentle or spinnier shot. So sometimes I hit the ball and it’s only visual that I witness the ball quality. A kind of.
 

sma1001

Hall of Fame
Ok. Well there are too many racquet options to go over, but it makes sense to mention the newer Ezone 98 305. This has a generally stiffer lay-up so perhaps demo that and see if you prefer the feel?
 

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
The DR98 is one of the very best-feeling modern racquet I have played with, and I'm very picky on ball feel. If you want it to play more connected, use a leather grip and a crisp string like WC Silverstring.

Number one strength of the DR98 is it has an amazing feel.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
Number one strength of the DR98 is it has an amazing feel.
Thanks for your opinion, and I definitely felt the ball significantly better when first moved from Cortex APD to AI98. In the meantime I’ve read multiple reports regarding Yonex frames, including AI/DR98, having muted feel. So there must be something in it.
 

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
Thanks for your opinion, and I definitely felt the ball significantly better when first moved from Cortex APD to AI98. In the meantime I’ve read multiple reports regarding Yonex frames, including AI/DR98, having muted feel. So there must be something in it.
The demo I hit with did play mushy/muted with stock grip and an unknown poly. After putting on a leather grip and my go-to crisp poly, it plays exactly what I expected from reading TW's review. And for me full poly actually plays better than gut/poly as full poly is more crisp.
 

JoaoN

Rookie
The demo I hit with did play mushy/muted with stock grip and an unknown poly. After putting on a leather grip and my go-to crisp poly, it plays exactly what I expected from reading TW's review. And for me full poly actually plays better than gut/poly as full poly is more crisp.
Had a brief experiment on my DR98s, strung one with a full bed of hyper G and one with a hyper G x Vanquish hybrid. Unfortunately, where i live it is hard and really expensive to buy nat gut, and since i only play in clay, it is not very durable.

I came to the same conclusion as you as i think this racquet plays way better with a full bed of poly. Better feel, better control and better spin.
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
The DR98 is one of the very best-feeling modern racquet I have played with, and I'm very picky on ball feel. If you want it to play more connected, use a leather grip and a crisp string like WC Silverstring.

Number one strength of the DR98 is it has an amazing feel.
Agree with you, such a nice feel!
 
Maybe try a bit lower swingweight... 333 unstrung is insane for this racket. I would hit the fence on every shot where I don't have much time. I play 312 unstrung and that's already super powerful.
 

34n

Rookie
@Dragy when I am in Moscow I can give you a few sets of cyclone 19 to try. I have plenty left and no longer using it.
If you want i can also give you my old Tour G to play with and see if there is any difference with your frames.
And obviously we can go out for a hit and open the clay season.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
@Dragy when I am in Moscow I can give you a few sets of cyclone 19 to try. I have plenty left and no longer using it.
If you want i can also give you my old Tour G to play with and see if there is any difference with your frames.
And obviously we can go out for a hit and open the clay season.
Brilliant, just give a note once you’re here!
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
this will sound like a broken record probably but you should demo Angell TC 95 16x19 . I've been playing with many great racquets.... blade 18x20 from 2015, Yonex DR blue, ig prestige mp, prestige touch mp, blade CV 18x20, Yonex VCORE pro.. All had something cool about them but I am always coming back to angell :) Its not like angell is any better because its a matter of preference but OVERALL it wins for me and obviously there are many things taken into consideration. Spec control, playability, price tag...Dammm...even painjob sometimes haha.
By the way, how TC95 plays compared to 97-100 players/tweeners in terms of forgiveness, power?
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Hey folks, although my pair of Ezone DR98s is still in good shape and playing well, I was wondering what options I may consider to improve feel-wise, namely shift the current rather muted setup to some more crisp, or connected, or I dunno what feel :laughing:

My current setup is leaded up to 350g mass, ~333 SW, 8pts HL, strung with Tourna BH Silver 1.25 initially at 24kg. Since using slick poly I tamed the launch angle and am pretty satisfied with how it performs.

I'd like to talk around that topic, have some fun, and also be ready with solutions once something bad haappens to my sticks (or my mood) :unsure:
Every 98" Yonex I've ever played has given me the impression of a larger headed frame compared with 98" racquets having oval-shaped hoops. That impression of a larger head includes a rather powerful, lively response and also a little less of a "connected" feel I might expect from a head that's a little larger than 100". My first thought is to maybe try a 95" Yonex if you find one that's playable for you.

I haven't sampled the Volkl V-Sense 10 Tour, but that frame might be one to try. It's a little different with it's 19mm beam width - I generally like a racquet with a somewhat narrow beam for its feel and behavior. Its stock weight lists at 11.5 oz. strung, which might be manageable, but you may also have a little room there to tune it with some lead if you feel the need.
 

galapagos

Semi-Pro
By the way, how TC95 plays compared to 97-100 players/tweeners in terms of forgiveness, power?
depends which string pattern and to which frame you want me to refer ;) some 100" frames were unstable and therefore unforgiving in my eyes . I would say tc95 18x20 was very similar to blade 18x20. I had no transition in terms of forgiveness coming from dr 98 to tc95 16x19... Dr is more forgiving but tc 95 is more stable. Stability is always more important for me. cheers !
 

ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
@Dragy The EZone 98 has a firmer head than the DR98 which IMO give you the feedback you are after. The DR98 IMO after a while just becomes to muted and you kind of lose the feel for where the ball will be going. The EZone 98 corrects the feedback issue with the DR98 and gives you a bit more pop. I think the EZone gets a bad wrap because the DR98 is so loved, personally i prefer the Ezone 98 just because of the feedback and pop. The DR98 feels better, however I play better with the EZone 98.

The EZone 98 is underrated, it's not a stiff frame, it has a muted firm response as opposed to a muted soft response. It's not a stiff feeling frame like a Babolat. THe Ezone 98 has the same RA as the DR98, just a firmer feel in the head.
 
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ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
@Dragy the other frame worth a demo is the new VCore 95, more classic players feel but a bit more firmer than the DR98. Really liked the new 95, if I wasn't so enamored with the VCore Pro 97, I would probably be playing with the VCore 95. FYI, was playing with the EZone 98 before the switch to the VCore Pro 97. Before the Ezone 98, played with the DR 98 for about a year.
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
@Dragy the other frame worth a demo is the new VCore 95, more classic players feel but a bit more firmer than the DR98. Really liked the new 95, if I wasn't so enamored with the VCore Pro 97, I would probably be playing with the VCore 95. FYI, was playing with the EZone 98 before the switch to the VCore Pro 97. Before the Ezone 98, played with the DR 98 for about a year.
Thanks for suggestion! I’m actually a bit worried about going 95. Even though it’s not a huge jump, but I don’t feel like giving away any modern frame features like power, spin and forgiveness (although I’m not striving for more above what DR98 has). I’m actually curious about how I’d play with 95 or 93 frame, but suppose such a switch wouldn’t help my match results 8-B
 

Dragy

Hall of Fame
Bump to the thread with a new thought: what if I wanted to get less powerful setup without mass/SW reduction and only limited stiffening of the stringbed? I currently feel forced to not swing out, which might be partially related to string experiments, as well as techniques/ball approach improvements (I started hitting clean power-based winners where I didn’t). For a long time I was interested in trying some 95-98 thin beamed 18x20, like Radical (have moderately cheap IG option) or prestige, or Wilson Ultra Tour (still expensive), or Dunlop 200, or maybe Angell TC95 (£100 discounted now available)... could those be a solution?
 
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