Need Information about Eagnass stringer machines

Hi all, I am from Argentina and I am trying to find the cheapest machine to buy because I am visiting Miami on late March.

I knew there is information about Eagnass and the bad quality of their machines. But this information is posted since 2008 and late and I am trying to find newest feedbacks.

I am interesting in one particular model https://www.eagnas.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=23_29_34&products_id=31 but I am not sure if this is a good choice

Could yo please recommend me some machines with electronic or Crank Tension Mechanism able to
disassemble?

My budget is $600

Thanks in Advance!
 

esgee48

Legend
Where do you plan to have any repairs or warranty service performed? It will cost you as much as a new machine to ship it back and forth to the USA. You have selected the 6 point (10 point mounting system?) fixed clamps which do not help when it comes to portability.

Be aware that if they do not say constant pull electronic, it probably is not.

In your link, they do have a category of Portable, both electric and basically drop weights. The simpler the better. There is less to go wrong or break. Their fixed clamps are no better or worse than their flying clamps due to their QC. If mounted properly, 2 point mounts are just as structurally sound as 6 point mounts (NEOS 1000 vs Gamma 5004 SC.)
 

esgee48

Legend
If it were me, I would find something that can be repaired in your home country.
You might also want to check out the portable machine used by @Tennis_dude101 and see what he says about it.
 
If it were me, I would find something that can be repaired in your home country.
You might also want to check out the portable machine used by @Tennis_dude101 and see what he says about it.
Thanks for your reply and all the information. I appreciate that. Here in my country (Argentina), we do not have repairs or service warranty service because nobody sells this kind of machines. So, I am thinking to buy one that is more of Crank Tension Mechanism.but my question is.. The Eagnass mentioned before is in a good price so What is the probability to have troubles with the electronic Tensor?
Thanks ;)
 

brianmch

New User
I own an Eagnas crank tension stringer. If I were you, I would get a simple drop-weight machine like a Klippermate or an ATS Traveler. They are very portable and will last virtually forever without needing repair.
 
I own an Eagnas crank tension stringer. If I were you, I would get a simple drop-weight machine like a Klippermate or an ATS Traveler. They are very portable and will last virtually forever without needing repair.
Could you give me a feedback about the electronic tensor?
 

ElMagoElGato

Semi-Pro
Why don't you get a TMS Stringer from Brasil? A professional woman from Argentina, Paola Ormechea, was famous for carrying it around and stringing herself on tour. By the way, I like your avator. El Mago with POG.
 

Tennis_dude101

Semi-Pro
If your after a portable machine you have 3 options:
  1. TMS Stringer
  2. Pro Stringer
  3. The new Stringway Portable machine that is being developed as we speak(There is a thread on it in this section)
The TMS Stringer weighs in at 6kg or 5.5kg for the backpack model
The New Stringway machine is about 8kg but it is still under development
The Pro Stringer is around 4kg in total(bag, clamps, frame mount, tensioner & power supply)

Any other questions just ask.

TD
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
By chance you know the approximate weight?
No I don't but I'd guess 30-40 pounds. At first I thought this was a lockout with a stand but now I see it is electric. My gut tells me it is not onstant pull. here is a thread with two different views of the machine. Say you get the machine and take it back home. What if you find out you do not like it?
 
If your after a portable machine you have 3 options:
  1. TMS Stringer
  2. Pro Stringer
  3. The new Stringway Portable machine that is being developed as we speak(There is a thread on it in this section)
The TMS Stringer weighs in at 6kg or 5.5kg for the backpack model
The New Stringway machine is about 8kg but it is still under development
The Pro Stringer is around 4kg in total(bag, clamps, frame mount, tensioner & power supply)

Any other questions just ask.

TD
Hi TD, thanks for your reply. Maybe I expressed myself improperly. I am looking for a machine who allows me to fit inside a suitcase just for one time to come back to Argentina. Then I will have this machine in the same spot everyday.
 
No I don't but I'd guess 30-40 pounds. At first I thought this was a lockout with a stand but now I see it is electric. My gut tells me it is not onstant pull. here is a thread with two different views of the machine. Say you get the machine and take it back home. What if you find out you do not like it?
What do you mean when you said "is not constant pull"? Sorry about that, I am new and Internet don´t offer to much information about this
 

jim e

Legend
What do you mean when you said "is not constant pull"? Sorry about that, I am new and Internet don´t offer to much information about this
A constant pull machine the tension head will continue to pull the set tension even as string stretches and keep it at that tension till released, where a lock out pulls to reference tension and locks at that without pulling any more to compensate for string stretching, or friction, therefore it locks out.
Most cheaper electric machines will lock out where a high end electronic will usually be a constant pull.
Each one will produce a different string bed stiffness, depending on string used and racquet size.
Also with regards to tensioning cross strings, a CP machine you can easily straighten the cross string while tension is being pulled, with LO you have to be careful to keep cross string straight while you are pulling string as once it is locked out and then straighten results in lower tension.
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
What do you mean when you said "is not constant pull"? Sorry about that, I am new and Internet don´t offer to much information about this
Some tensioner are electric while others are constant pull. Many think just because it has a motor it is constant pull, but that's not always the case. Some tensioner pull and when a set tension is reached the pulling stops. On a constant pull the same thing happens but the string will loose tension very fast even before you can clamp the string. A constant pull has a load cell that detects the loss of tension and pulls again constantly until it is disconnected.
 
Some tensioner are electric while others are constant pull. Many think just because it has a motor it is constant pull, but that's not always the case. Some tensioner pull and when a set tension is reached the pulling stops. On a constant pull the same thing happens but the string will loose tension very fast even before you can clamp the string. A constant pull has a load cell that detects the loss of tension and pulls again constantly until it is disconnected.
so in your opinion, the main difference between Constant and electric Pull is that the constant pull is better when you talk about the loss of tension but could you tell me if the electronic tensor is more likely to break or become unbalanced than the Constant Pull?
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
so in your opinion, the main difference between Constant and electric Pull is that the constant pull is better when you talk about the loss of tension but could you tell me if the electronic tensor is more likely to break or become unbalanced than the Constant Pull?
No, that would depend on the manufacturer and the specific equipment. I did not say that a CP is better. I don't even want to go there but I believe a tension that has discrete points to set the tension will be more accurate if you are changing tension back and forth. The Eagnas machine just has a dial. A CP will result in a tighter string bed but so will raising the tension on a non-CP. I doubt I could tell the difference be +/- 1 lb on a string bed if you can good for you. CP or something else that's your choice.
 

10shoe

Professional
Some tensioner are electric while others are constant pull. Many think just because it has a motor it is constant pull, but that's not always the case. Some tensioner pull and when a set tension is reached the pulling stops. On a constant pull the same thing happens but the string will loose tension very fast even before you can clamp the string. A constant pull has a load cell that detects the loss of tension and pulls again constantly until it is disconnected.
Do you ever proof read your posts?
 
Th
No, that would depend on the manufacturer and the specific equipment. I did not say that a CP is better. I don't even want to go there but I believe a tension that has discrete points to set the tension will be more accurate if you are changing tension back and forth. The Eagnas machine just has a dial. A CP will result in a tighter string bed but so will raising the tension on a non-CP. I doubt I could tell the difference be +/- 1 lb on a string bed if you can good for you. CP or something else that's your choice.
I really appreciate all the information! Thanks ;)
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Do you ever proof read your posts?
seldom if ever, why should i when someone else will? Just a couple of days ago i put ass where i meant mass, and that actually came out funny.

EDIT: That adds to your vocabulary when you want to respond to someone. LOL
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
Be careful of that Eagnas electronic you are considering.

Argentina electrical service is 220-240V. US is 110-120V.

This is not a problem for good electronic machines that have universal input switching regulator power supplies. They will likely be using brushless DC or DC stepper motors with a strain gauge and electronic controls. Cheaper machines however may use a cheap AC motor with a simple current limiter. These will NOT work in Argentina without a step down transformer. Maybe you can find out the inner working of that machine but I doubt that they will tell you anything useful.

Seems to me that you are the perfect candidate for a Stringway machine. They have some quirks but they are built like tanks and are dead simple. Too bad you can't wait for this guy to become available:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/light-weight-travel-machine-a-good-idea.579438/
 

struggle

Legend
I'll do you a solid. You buy and send me one of those little portable lockout machines you guys have down there (Brazil?)
and I'll buy and ship you the eagnas machine of your choice. We'll make up the difference via paypal.
 

MAX PLY

Hall of Fame
I'll do you a solid. You buy and send me one of those little portable lockout machines you guys have down there (Brazil?)
and I'll buy and ship you the eagnas machine of your choice. We'll make up the difference via paypal.
I think there is one currently on the bay right now--says slightly used.
 
I'll do you a solid. You buy and send me one of those little portable lockout machines you guys have down there (Brazil?)
and I'll buy and ship you the eagnas machine of your choice. We'll make up the difference via paypal.
Hi, here in argentina we have this brand. Is called "Bartom" text me if you like it and we make a deal +549WhatsApp or iMessage)
 
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Be careful of that Eagnas electronic you are considering.

Argentina electrical service is 220-240V. US is 110-120V.

This is not a problem for good electronic machines that have universal input switching regulator power supplies. They will likely be using brushless DC or DC stepper motors with a strain gauge and electronic controls. Cheaper machines however may use a cheap AC motor with a simple current limiter. These will NOT work in Argentina without a step down transformer. Maybe you can find out the inner working of that machine but I doubt that they will tell you anything useful.

Seems to me that you are the perfect candidate for a Stringway machine. They have some quirks but they are built like tanks and are dead simple. Too bad you can't wait for this guy to become available:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/light-weight-travel-machine-a-good-idea.579438/
Thanks for your opinion. I have this into consideration, I have a 110V Vacuum cleaner so I already have an step down transformer from 220v to 110v. I can use it, thanks for sharing your knowledges
 

sandalsocks

New User
Hi Federico,

I'm joining this discussion late. You got some sound advice here. I had an Eagnas for over 10 years before I sold it. I would not recommend it based on their quality and support. You can search many discussions here to verify.

I have put in more than half the money to maintain parts that prematurely wore out. The specific model you are looking at has terrible base clamps. I'm weary of those 3 teeth clamps and I'll let others chime in on that.

You have many other options that others here have gave solid advice. Let me know if you have any questions about Eagnas if you are worried about their quality. I had their Hawk 800
 
Hi Federico,

I'm joining this discussion late. You got some sound advice here. I had an Eagnas for over 10 years before I sold it. I would not recommend it based on their quality and support. You can search many discussions here to verify.

I have put in more than half the money to maintain parts that prematurely wore out. The specific model you are looking at has terrible base clamps. I'm weary of those 3 teeth clamps and I'll let others chime in on that.

You have many other options that others here have gave solid advice. Let me know if you have any questions about Eagnas if you are worried about their quality. I had their Hawk 800
Wow! that is the comment that I am looking for. Definitely, I dont want to buy any model of Eagnas. I will look for a Gamma, Alpha or Prince. Thanks!
 

10shoe

Professional
Wow! that is the comment that I am looking for. Definitely, I dont want to buy any model of Eagnas. I will look for a Gamma, Alpha or Prince. Thanks!
I doubt you would be able to fit a Prince machine in a suitcase. Also, be aware that Prince is in pretty dire financial shape. While their machines are true workhorses and they have a history of solid performance/durability and spare parts have been readily available to this point, there is really no telling what things would be like if they actually went under.
 

MAX PLY

Hall of Fame
I agree that you would be hard pressed to fit a Prince machine into a suitcase. I respectfully disagree about Prince's future, particularly the machine division--it remains a valuable asset and worst case scenario, the machine division would simply be sold (just like Ektelon did to Prince). Plus, there are about a zillion Neos machines out there--parts will not be an issue in your lifetime.
 

Virtu

New User
Why don't you get a TMS Stringer from Brasil? A professional woman from Argentina, Paola Ormechea, was famous for carrying it around and stringing herself on tour. By the way, I like your avator. El Mago with POG.
Is it a good machine? Im from Brazil and i read somewhere that they are the same Pros Pro stringing machine with different colour. I can buy a TMS like the picture below for $710 here in Brazil.



Im going to Miami next week and im trying to buy a Gamma X-6FC at a local store. If all goes well, it will cost less than $600.
 

ElMagoElGato

Semi-Pro
Is it a good machine? Im from Brazil and i read somewhere that they are the same Pros Pro stringing machine with different colour. I can buy a TMS like the picture below for $710 here in Brazil.



Im going to Miami next week and im trying to buy a Gamma X-6FC at a local store. If all goes well, it will cost less than $600.
What I meant was the one OP is showing in the post #33. I thought he wanted a portable machine but he obviously knows it well. This one is probably from Eagnas. I don't know if TMS has made improvement on top of it but it'll be a much safer option to get a Gamma if you have such an opportunity.
 
Hi guys, I have a question and maybe someone of us could help me. I saw on a UK site (https://www.racquetdepot.co.uk) and I am watching that the Pro´s Pro Pilot has a very good price + shipping to FL (US$374). I want to know if you guys have experience with orders outside USA and If I need to complete customs forms or pay something extra like customs fees to get the machine into USA. Thanks!
 
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