Nestor/Zimonjic exposed!!
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samprasvsfederer123
Banned
do not like zimonjic
I agree - Rafa manhandled those guys...It was so apparent that he was at a different level compared to even the best doubles players. I don't think they see the kind of consistent pace and spin off the ground that guys like Rafa produce. I was happy for Lopez - his face at the end of the match was priceless.
I think there are career doubles specialists because more top tier players don't play doubles, and as such, these guys can capitalize on that niche.
GP
I think there are career doubles specialists because more top tier players don't play doubles, and as such, these guys can capitalize on that niche.
GP
I agree! Saw him play a couple weeks ago against the Bryan Bros (I think) and he kept hitting at them; even noticed one of the Bros looked back at him a couple times after he went at them. Then he hits right at Lopez a couple times and yells out when Rafa's hitting the ball. Classless. I understand the idea of going at your opponent from a strategic standpoint, but to do it so often, when so close, and with such force is beyond strategy and into gamesmanship which I cannot respect.
did you think they would pick on rafa??? of course lopez got pounded.
samprasvsfederer123
Banned
ahaha poor lopez
hcb0804
Hall of Fame
Poor Lopez?? Nestor/Zim kept nailing him at the net and Lopez kept fighting them off, and won the tournament and a big check.......Hurray for Lopez!!
I really watch those matches.
roundiesee
Hall of Fame
Nadal and Lopez played out of their skins, and the no.1 pair never got going at all. They folded rather easily after losing the first set. Nadal was a sight to behold, jumping around enthusiastically and egging his team-mate on to victory. Great match for the wild cards, and they deserved the trophy at the end.
nikefreekz
New User
so that's what the altercation is all about, i kindda missed that part, just heard the commentator about what a stupid move it was to wound Rafa up...
JRstriker12
Hall of Fame
Watched a bit of this match today. Very strange, seemed like Rafa and Lopez were using a one-up, one-back formation half the time.
If you can't stand the heat..... this isn't USTA league, these guys are trying to live on their winnings. None of the guys on tour would hesitate to go at other guys like that.
Also I agree, no person in their right mind would hit it to Rafa.
Not very well on average... that's why they are usually "doubles specialist."
If you can't stand the heat..... this isn't USTA league, these guys are trying to live on their winnings. None of the guys on tour would hesitate to go at other guys like that.
Also I agree, no person in their right mind would hit it to Rafa.
Not very well on average... that's why they are usually "doubles specialist."
Leelord337
Hall of Fame
this was so true, he missed so many easy volleys up at net i'm sure he would've made against 99% of any other player, but i think he misjudged them from rafas spin as well...maybe rafa 'n andreev should play doubles
ODYSSEY Mk.4
Professional
2; 2nd time they lost to them if i heard the commentators right
Changmaster
Rookie
Anyone else feel that Fed and Nadal NEED to pair up and play at least one doubles tournie together?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9b6PxDQdaU
Funny interview by Rafa, where one of the questions is, "With what player would you like to play doubles?" He answers Federer, of course
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9b6PxDQdaU
Funny interview by Rafa, where one of the questions is, "With what player would you like to play doubles?" He answers Federer, of course
roundiesee
Hall of Fame
Anyone else feel that Fed and Nadal NEED to pair up and play at least one doubles tournie together?
Yes they should, just to make things interesting, and to see how they'll play as a team. But I did hear that Roger wasn't too keen......
forzamilan90
Legend
doubles players are overrated, so yeah make a nadal and federer team and watch them sweep everything year after year.
forzamilan90
Legend
wimlbedon champs?
The commentators made a point of saying that Zim and Nestor wanted to show that singles players can't just come into doubles and "clean up." I'm not sure how much of that was the commentators being dramatic, but I wonder if the top doubles players think along those lines. Zimonjic was definitely struggling but I was surprised Rafa couldn't get a better look at his serve.
Clay lover
Legend
Actually Lopez and Nadal make a pretty good pair. Lopez has got more than decent volleys, and they pair up quite well with Nadal's spinny lefty serve which is hard for the opponent to attack. He also has a heavy, hard forehand.
Nadal is no elite volleyer, but he can put balls away with good finesse, not to mention that he is a BEAST of a baseliner for players who normally play doubles. With a wider court to hit at i think Nadal tends to hit much harder with much lower net clearance, and his spinning monsters are just a PAIN for the opponent in front of the net to handle.
Nadal is no elite volleyer, but he can put balls away with good finesse, not to mention that he is a BEAST of a baseliner for players who normally play doubles. With a wider court to hit at i think Nadal tends to hit much harder with much lower net clearance, and his spinning monsters are just a PAIN for the opponent in front of the net to handle.
Changmaster
Rookie
Anyone else feel that Fed and Nadal NEED to pair up and play at least one doubles tournie together?
Yes they should, just to make things interesting, and to see how they'll play as a team. But I did hear that Roger wasn't too keen......
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Federer_declines_Nadal_s_doubles_of_09042006.html
According to this article, Nadal offered to play dubs with Rog, but Fed declined. However, he did imply that he would have liked to, but he didn't want to jeopardize his schedule. I think (and hope) that it could still happen sometime in the future.
tacou
G.O.A.T.
It was great to see him in doubles on a hard court ... and winning the tournament against the current #1 doubles team. In the tradition of Johnny Mac, he should play more dobs, which will help him with hard court singles. Also, it added juice to the finals and it semed that there was more interest by the spectators.
LuckyR
Legend
That is a bit of an error though as Lopez is not a singles player. He was playing like an excellent doubles player and carried Nadal though some of their earlier matches. A team of two singles players and a team of an excellent doubles player and a singles player are two different things.
yemenmocha
Professional
It was a poor match performance by Zim/Nestor. The unforced errors were atrocious.
It's also No-AD. Anyone who plays leagues know how this throws up anomalies in match results.
This says absolutely nothing about Nadal being on some other level (or any other top player who is only good at singles).
It's also No-AD. Anyone who plays leagues know how this throws up anomalies in match results.
This says absolutely nothing about Nadal being on some other level (or any other top player who is only good at singles).
yemenmocha
Professional
Also I don't see people noting how Lubjicic lost early rounds in doubles, yet plowed through many top singles players to win the tournament.
But that's just one player, one tournament, right?
But that's just one player, one tournament, right?
Justin Side
Hall of Fame
Djoker and Rafa planned to play doubles last year. But when the time came, Rafa said he wasn't feeling healthy enough to risk playing doubles.
Justin Side
Hall of Fame
Anyone else feel that Fed and Nadal NEED to pair up and play at least one doubles tournie together?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9b6PxDQdaU
Funny interview by Rafa, where one of the questions is, "With what player would you like to play doubles?" He answers Federer, of course
I'd love to see Fed and Rafa play a few really big doubles events. Just to see if they'd click quickly and destroy the field.
roundiesee
Hall of Fame
Most people would love to see that; may be when Fed is done winning slams and is a bit older, he'll be more prepared to play doubles.....
yemenmocha
Professional
Perhaps by then he and some of the other "top players" will have acquired the requisite volleying skills to be at the top in doubles as well. Little is more repulsive in doubles than seeing the 1 up 1 back strategy because one of the poor guys is a baseliner who doesn't realize that this is doubles.
I was thinking the same thing - doubles is a joke.
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Before the doubles guys are denigrated too much, someone needs to answer why the following teams lost (also at Indian Wells from the top of the draw down):
- Andy Murray and Roger Hutchins lost in the 1st round to Roddick/Blake (by the logic in this thread, Murray should have won since he's higher ranked)
- Roddick/Blake lost to Nestor/Zimonjic in the 2nd round
- John Isner and Sam Querry lost to Nestor/Zimonjic in the semis (two top singles guys)
- Cilic/Lubijic lost in the 1st round to Isner/Querry and Lubijic won the tournament
- Gael Monfils/Oliver Simon lost in the 1st round to David Ferrer/Alberto Montanes
- Martin Damm/Radel Stepanek lost in the 1st round to Michael Llodra and Andy Ram
- Julian Benneteau and Jo Wily Tsonga lost to Aspelin/Hanley
- J. Knowle/Julian Melzer lost in the 1R to Brunstrom/Rojer
- Berdych/Kolscriiber lost ot Brunstrum/Rojer in the 2R
Outbeyond
Legend
surfvland
Semi-Pro
True.. True.
