NEW ATP RULES COMING?

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
NEW RULES COMING? ATP REPORTEDLY REVIEWING CHANGES TO BATHROOM BREAKS, MEDICAL TIMEOUTS


"I hope that before the next season begins in January, we will have a stricter rule," an unnamed official told Reuters.
ByNiko Vercelletto
Published Sep 18, 2021

Ongoing debates have been brewing for many seasons about two topics: toilet breaks and medical timeouts. From players to fans, there are widespread concerns that lenient rules are used to gain an advantage during play.
Stefanos Tsitsipas became the center of attention on both issues during his Cincinnati and US Open appearances. While the Grand Slam rule book says that players can take a “reasonable” amount of time, the likes of Andy Murray and Alexander Zverev felt that Tsitsipas exceeded that.

According to Reuters, an unnamed ATP official says the men’s tour is reviewing guidelines, which currently do not require players to start play within a specific time.
"There will be a change to the rules," their source said. "I hope that before the next season begins in January, we will have a stricter rule.

"I think it's getting to the point where it's definitely becoming a big issue. It's been an issue for a long time but we are taking quite a serious approach now to try and change it."


"I don't think I broke any rules. I played by the guidelines," Tsitsipas said after defeating Murray in New York.



However, some of the biggest names in the sport came to defend Tsitsipas, including Novak Djokovic.

“I don’t think he’s doing anything wrong. I support him,” the world No. 1 told press at the US Open. “The rule is not clear… I think he didn’t deserve that much attacks that he was getting in the media from everyone.”
Though ATP and Grand Slam events have their own code, in general players are allowed up to two bathroom or clothing change breaks in a best-of-five match, and can call the trainer once for each individual injury. Trainers have no time limits for injury evaluation, though only three minutes are allowed for treatment.

 

James P

G.O.A.T.
I know there's the complaint of 'getting cold,' but perhaps it wouldn't be the worst idea to formalize a longer intermission between sets? Perhaps ten minutes. I know that is a lot of time, but would be good for fans, as well (time to get up and grab a drink) and just let the players do what they want (within reason) in that break.
 

5sets

Professional
The updated rule will be known as the Tsitsipas rule, or simply, the Tsitsipas. When a player wants a toilet break, he will ask the umpire, may I take a Tsitsipas?
Lmao his name is perfect for it; like Tsitsipassing stool through this rectum.
 

Visionary

Professional
The injury time/toilet break rules that ATP appears to be reviewing are overdue now.
Classic case of something being fine but a handful of jerks abuse the leeway offered and now everyone has to follow strict rules.
would be fine if written better than it is.

ATP should hire someone who writes in English better than them, so that those poorly educated officials wouldn't have to (re-)re-write it again.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
I tried to get the shot/serve clock named the Nadalex after Timex and it took them 12 years, not 12 months, to do something there.
And the results of the implementation of the serve clock:

- Sascha Zverev became the first player to get a time violation warning after implementing the serve clock:



- Your felllow countryman was given a time violation warning:



- Rafa won the Masters 1000 in Toronto, where he played with the serve clock for the first time:

:D
 

PilotPete

Hall of Fame
I mean you do have to be kind of a sissy to take such a long break during a match, so asking for a sissy pass (Tsitsipas) to go is quite fitting. The biggest question is how many Tsitsipas's will Djokovic use to break the slam record?
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
And the results of the implementation of the serve clock:

- Sascha Zverev became the first player to get a time violation warning after implementing the serve clock:



- Your felllow countryman was given a time violation warning:



- Rafa won the Masters 1000 in Toronto, where he played with the serve clock for the first time:

:D
So maybe adding this new rule will help Tsitsipas embrace his inner champion? See, it's good for everyone.
 
They just need to clarify it a bit. Due to RF & Rafa being out of the USO it was a slow news week and media needed to come up with Toilet-Gate-Break to sensationalize what had usually been a non-event. Ten minutes would be a round number so fans could spend some money at the concessions and take their own toilet break.

Regarding "coaching" they should legalize it as well like the WTA has--it's been going on surreptitiously and everyone in the industry knows it. It would be informative for viewers to acquire free instruction on strategy and tactics. NTRP league captains could learn a bundle to pass onto their teams at matches--legalize it for league tennis too. It would also improve the quality of matches for spectators because hopefully the players will perform better from the advice rather than mindless baseline ball bashing.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
They just need to clarify it a bit. Due to RF & Rafa being out of the USO it was a slow news week and media needed to come up with Toilet-Gate-Break to sensationalize what had usually been a non-event. Ten minutes would be a round number so fans could spend some money at the concessions and take their own toilet break.

Regarding "coaching" they should legalize it as well like the WTA has--it's been going on surreptitiously and everyone in the industry knows it. It would be informative for viewers to acquire free instruction on strategy and tactics. NTRP league captains could learn a bundle to pass onto their teams at matches--legalize it for league tennis too. It would also improve the quality of matches for spectators because hopefully the players will perform better from the advice rather than mindless baseline ball bashing.
No coaching. That's what puts the I in tennIs.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Why don’t they start enforcing the existing rules, such as the serve clock? Nadal would be in trouble though
 
Yes. The fact that it is possible for Nadal to win with a shot clock mitigates his decades of bullsh1t.
And the results of the implementation of the serve clock:

- Sascha Zverev became the first player to get a time violation warning after implementing the serve clock:



- Your felllow countryman was given a time violation warning:



- Rafa won the Masters 1000 in Toronto, where he played with the serve clock for the first time:

:D
 

Amen786

Semi-Pro
And the results of the implementation of the serve clock:

- Sascha Zverev became the first player to get a time violation warning after implementing the serve clock:



- Your felllow countryman was given a time violation warning:



- Rafa won the Masters 1000 in Toronto, where he played with the serve clock for the first time:

:D
Lol Nadal takes more time than allowed on points all the time, even as a fan you should accept it and move on without going insane universal limits to prove he doesn't..
Its just that umpires are afraid of punishing him regularly for that because they feel threatened of his influence & connections.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Lol Nadal takes more time than allowed on points all the time, even as a fan you should accept it and move on without going insane universal limits to prove he doesn't..
Its just that umpires are afraid of punishing him regularly for that because they feel threatened of his influence & connections.
A player cannot take more time between points than the serve clock allows. You are wrong.
 

fundrazer

Legend
I'm confused? They do enforce the shot clock now.
Inconsistently, which is the problem for most of the rules in ATP/WTA. It seems like they're open to interpretation by the umpire, which leads them to being enforced inconsistently.

Also the fact that clayqueen started this thread is hilarious. Now they want to change MTOs after Nadal abused them for the first part of his career.
 

GGWAW

New User
I really hope toilet breaks will be enforced at the end of each set (5 min; 10 at the end of set 3 in a GS match) ... i really need them when I play... and when I watch TV !
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Inconsistently, which is the problem for most of the rules in ATP/WTA. It seems like they're open to interpretation by the umpire, which leads them to being enforced inconsistently.

Also the fact that clayqueen started this thread is hilarious. Now they want to change MTOs after Nadal abused them for the first part of his career.
They are inconsistent on the shot clock? Certainly before the shot clock he went over time, but since the introduction, they have enforced the rule on everyone.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Inconsistently, which is the problem for most of the rules in ATP/WTA. It seems like they're open to interpretation by the umpire, which leads them to being enforced inconsistently.

Also the fact that clayqueen started this thread is hilarious. Now they want to change MTOs after Nadal abused them for the first part of his career.
Rafa has not abused MTOs. Just his haters have falsely accused him. I have several times replied to these false accusations.
 
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