New Balance Lav V2

BBender716

Semi-Pro
Just ordered EE for Lav2, 996v5, and Hypercourt Express to compare. I have bunionettes (bunions on outside of the foot) and wear an ankle brace on one ankle. I need a wide toe box, and a slightly wider heel fit without being too wide that my foot without the ankle brace can still feel locked in.

The 996v5 just seemed to rub the inside of my feet wrong, weirdly. Heel slippage wasn't too bad on the non-brace foot.

The Lav2 felt fantastic. A little more disconnected/less minimalist, but I could tighten the non brace foot fit enough to feel locked in while still having ample room in the toe box.

The Hypercourts were super comfy on the ankle brace foot but the heel was just too damn wide on the non brace foot, probably because these are known to be wider shoes even at normal width sizes.

I think I'm going to end up sticking with the Lav2 (currently in Asics Court FF2, great but too narrow and tight of a fit around the ankles).

Hope this helps anyone looking for something similar!
 

Znak

Hall of Fame
First time playing in these last night, quite a bit different than my memory of the v1s. Hoping its just a break-in period because when I was heel striking on lunges I got a really jarring sensation up the back of my achilles to calf.... anyone else with similar feedback?
 

Delouie9154

New User
First time playing in these last night, quite a bit different than my memory of the v1s. Hoping its just a break-in period because when I was heel striking on lunges I got a really jarring sensation up the back of my achilles to calf.... anyone else with similar feedback?

Can't say I have had that feeling with the cushion. My feet find it very plush to wear. I actually would get that jarring feeling once the cushion on my Lav 1 or 996 v4/v5 would start to die out.

It is stated that the Lav 2 with its 1.2-1.4 cm heel to toe drop(cant remember the exact number) it should technically be easier on your Achilles versus a speed shoe shoes that might have .9-1.0 heel to toe drop (more ankle dependent). At least that was the feeling I get. I think different foot types cause different fit types.

I personally believe if a shoe out of the box is causing pain in joints, its simply not the shoe for me no matter the break in period. If its like heel rubbing, toe rubbing etc, those are fixable with tape etc. Something that might be killing your Achilles or foot joints, is a big return for me.
 

Mircat

New User
Found this "new" color way coming to us for Wimbledon. They are changing the logos and no longer calling it the Lav 2, its just now called the all court LAV. Personally I can dig it as it goes along with their latest casual shoe logo changes as well!

New Balance LAV all Court Shoe Men, White, Black

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These are absolute fire.
 

Znak

Hall of Fame
Can't say I have had that feeling with the cushion. My feet find it very plush to wear. I actually would get that jarring feeling once the cushion on my Lav 1 or 996 v4/v5 would start to die out.

It is stated that the Lav 2 with its 1.2-1.4 cm heel to toe drop(cant remember the exact number) it should technically be easier on your Achilles versus a speed shoe shoes that might have .9-1.0 heel to toe drop (more ankle dependent). At least that was the feeling I get. I think different foot types cause different fit types.

I personally believe if a shoe out of the box is causing pain in joints, its simply not the shoe for me no matter the break in period. If its like heel rubbing, toe rubbing etc, those are fixable with tape etc. Something that might be killing your Achilles or foot joints, is a big return for me.
Appreciate the tip. Yeah I've heard similarly re heel-to-toe drop being better for the Achilles. It was really weird it's like the foam almost trampolined upward when my body was still going downwards. Going to give it another go hopefully they work out as they were a bday gift from they wifey haha.
 

LiamMiguel

Rookie
I really wish this shoe would actually go on clearance for once. Or really any shoe that’s from New Balance. When testing it, it was absolutely my favorite shoe and I haven’t been able to get a pair since :/
 

Delouie9154

New User
Probably will what specifically? Probably will only come in one width?
Probably will have more than one width, my fault was not clear. Multi tasking at its finest.

If they offer their current colors ways in 2E , which they do...I'd assume they will have additional widths.
 

srwaldr

New User
Hated this shoe. No stability due to high heel drop. I felt like it was an ankle sprain just waiting to happen. Returned.
 

Delouie9154

New User
the person you quoted is complaining about the HEIGHT of the heel... is this implying that the height will reduce after a couple of weeks? Because that would be epically surprising

lol @LOBALOT #notalone

I thought shoe midsoles do form and compress to your foot over time. Im sure PFG1 is not saying it will compress inches, but potentially a small divot in the shape of your heel.... Highly dependent on personal weight. For example the fuel cell lines that NB offers, after about 1 month of playing, I definitely feel a more jarring feel in my heel when landing on a slide. From what the internet tells me, other threads & Foot Doctor Zach, the cushion has compressed and is broken in/worn.

I do agree though the heel stack on the Lav v2 is higher than most shoes, which could definitely cause some distaste in fit and feel.

I personally believe when a person says that any shoe has no break in time is non sense. Things will loosen up whether its the midsole, uppers, or even the outsole itself. As a heavier guy 200lbs/90kg at 6 ft 3 in/190cm, I have definitely noticed that my shoes by week 2 feel a bit more pliable in some form or another.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
I thought shoe midsoles do form and compress to your foot over time. Im sure PFG1 is not saying it will compress inches, but potentially a small divot in the shape of your heel.... Highly dependent on personal weight. For example the fuel cell lines that NB offers, after about 1 month of playing, I definitely feel a more jarring feel in my heel when landing on a slide. From what the internet tells me, other threads & Foot Doctor Zach, the cushion has compressed and is broken in/worn.

I do agree though the heel stack on the Lav v2 is higher than most shoes, which could definitely cause some distaste in fit and feel.

I personally believe when a person says that any shoe has no break in time is non sense. Things will loosen up whether its the midsole, uppers, or even the outsole itself. As a heavier guy 200lbs/90kg at 6 ft 3 in/190cm, I have definitely noticed that my shoes by week 2 feel a bit more pliable in some form or another.
did you personally find the heel of the LavV2 to bottom out (in a "good" way though) in only a couple of weeks though or have you never tried this model yet?
 

Delouie9154

New User
did you personally find the heel of the LavV2 to bottom out (in a "good" way though) in only a couple of weeks though or have you never tried this model yet?

Yes - Im on my 2nd pair of Lav v2. Although using this 2nd pair much less as I have recently fell in love with lacoste LT 21 ultras. Submitted the LAV v2 1st pair for 6 months warranty after 2.5 months. The cushion after the 2-2.5 week mark for me, felt different from the initial out of box. Initial out of box plushness was gone, but it did feel more responsive to my movements. I did not receive the jarring feeling until towards the tail end of my use life of the first pair. I do not think we used the word "Bottom out", Bottom out implies the the cushion is absolutely gone to me.

Again all views should be taken subjectively for shoe fit. I am not hating SRWALDR or D-QUIK for saying the LAV was a bad shoe. Just saying that hey things compress and change over time which could cause difference in feel/performance.

Orthotic imprint/midsole compression: Not sure how clear it is in this photo, but circled in red is the imprint of my orthotic into the midsole of the shoe (Triangular Shape). My brain tells me this shows some evidence of compression.

Uppers on the other hand....my sliding stopping foot (left foot) in particular, I felt like I needed to tighten my laces more to lock my foot in as the uppers were super beat up and lost some of their initial stiffness.

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d-quik

Hall of Fame
Yes - Im on my 2nd pair of Lav v2. Although using this 2nd pair much less as I have recently fell in love with lacoste LT 21 ultras. Submitted the LAV v2 1st pair for 6 months warranty after 2.5 months. The cushion after the 2-2.5 week mark for me, felt different from the initial out of box. Initial out of box plushness was gone, but it did feel more responsive to my movements. I did not receive the jarring feeling until towards the tail end of my use life of the first pair. I do not think we used the word "Bottom out", Bottom out implies the the cushion is absolutely gone to me.

Again all views should be taken subjectively for shoe fit. I am not hating SRWALDR or D-QUIK for saying the LAV was a bad shoe. Just saying that hey things compress and change over time which could cause difference in feel/performance.

Orthotic imprint/midsole compression: Not sure how clear it is in this photo, but circled in red is the imprint of my orthotic into the midsole of the shoe (Triangular Shape). My brain tells me this shows some evidence of compression.

Uppers on the other hand....my sliding stopping foot (left foot) in particular, I felt like I needed to tighten my laces more to lock my foot in as the uppers were super beat up and lost some of their initial stiffness.

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oh wow! thats pretty noticeable!

also not feeling any hate! ^_^ thank you for the info/insight
 

PFG1

Rookie
@d-quick...

the person you quoted is complaining about the HEIGHT of the heel... is this implying that the height will reduce after a couple of weeks? Because that would be epically surprising

How would that be surprising?

Um, yes, I am not implying that the height of the heel reduces. I am empatically saying that yes, the height of the heel reduces as the shoe compresses. The Lav foam is super springy and supportive, and is the shoe breaks in and that springy-ness reduces, as does the height of the heel. I find the shoe becomes a better shoe with this break in of the height.
 

atatu

Legend
So on the NB site they have a new model that they are calling Fresh Foam X Lav v2 ? Is this different from the Lav v2 ? It has the small "N" logo, but I don't recall a Fresh Foam Lav X v1....very confusing.
 
So on the NB site they have a new model that they are calling Fresh Foam X Lav v2 ? Is this different from the Lav v2 ? It has the small "N" logo, but I don't recall a Fresh Foam Lav X v1....very confusing.

Just looks like a visual update to the upper but otherwise same shoe. Maybe they are just changing how they position the naming of FF X and Lav? I'd expect the Lav naming convention to die off in the future...
 

Delouie9154

New User
So on the NB site they have a new model that they are calling Fresh Foam X Lav v2 ? Is this different from the Lav v2 ? It has the small "N" logo, but I don't recall a Fresh Foam Lav X v1....very confusing.

yeah very confusing...the first Lav was just called the Fresh Foam Lav (without the X). The X is another version of their midsole cushion.

Then with the introduction of Fresh Foam X into their Running shoes, they subsequently added it to the Lav which became the Fresh Foam X Lav v2.

Fresh Foam Lav and Fresh Foam X Lav v2 are two different shoes....New balance has always had really confusing shoe naming i.e. all the numbering etc.
 

atatu

Legend
Found this "new" color way coming to us for Wimbledon. They are changing the logos and no longer calling it the Lav 2, its just now called the all court LAV. Personally I can dig it as it goes along with their latest casual shoe logo changes as well!

New Balance LAV all Court Shoe Men, White, Black

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This one is up on the NB site now, they have two widths.
 
Far chance but raonic is making a comeback. If he becomes resurgent…..lav v3?

Tommy Paul and others seem to favor the lav over the 996. So I’m curious how they will evolve from it.

I'd expect: less extreme heel to toe drop, revised lighter weight, slightly more flexible upper, revised tongue & heel counter design and visual logo updates that align with how they present in their other lines. Likely noticeable changes but nothing that makes it a completely different shoe

Raonic is made of glass so that comeback will last .67 seconds. That was a terrible deal, especially when NB raised their shoe prices $20 basically as soon as the deal was announced.

I continue to hold out hope that NB will build a shoe with FFX in the heel, Fuel Cell in the forefoot and the Energy Arc carbon shank plate system. Might as well just mash all 3 of your top technologies together :-D
 

Delouie9154

New User
I'd expect: less extreme heel to toe drop, revised lighter weight, slightly more flexible upper, revised tongue & heel counter design and visual logo updates that align with how they present in their other lines. Likely noticeable changes but nothing that makes it a completely different shoe

Raonic is made of glass so that comeback will last .67 seconds. That was a terrible deal, especially when NB raised their shoe prices $20 basically as soon as the deal was announced.

I continue to hold out hope that NB will build a shoe with FFX in the heel, Fuel Cell in the forefoot and the Energy Arc carbon shank plate system. Might as well just mash all 3 of your top technologies together :-D
If you end up telling the future, I’m just going to assume you live in Boston and work at NB HQ haha.

I personally am not a fan of fuel cell anymore. They have great initial use comfort then it just bottoms out too quickly. But maybe…..I should just lose weight haha.

Would be an interesting concept to have all their tech in one shoe. I do like the 996 v5 chicken foot shank. Definitely enjoyed the stiffness it gave to counter the softness of fuel cell.
 
If you end up telling the future, I’m just going to assume you live in Boston and work at NB HQ haha.

I personally am not a fan of fuel cell anymore. They have great initial use comfort then it just bottoms out too quickly. But maybe…..I should just lose weight haha.

Would be an interesting concept to have all their tech in one shoe. I do like the 996 v5 chicken foot shank. Definitely enjoyed the stiffness it gave to counter the softness of fuel cell.

I agree on Fuel Cell overall but I'd be curious to see how it would do in a more limited use where you have the firmer FFX absorbing the heel impact. The Energy Arc was the best part of the CG1 for me, even though I disliked the shoe in general.
 
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