New Donnay X-Series - My Thoughts

I have said this before, but Ill say it again. I found out that I have Dequarvains Tendinitis. It is a disease that you can aggravate from racquet sports like tennis. So for me, I have to use the safest possible racquets from now on to prevent flare ups. The Platinum is a very comfortable racquet but is not as good on the arm for me as ProKennex. Nothing really is. So that is why I had to switch.
 
I do not understand why donnay does not make their heavy rackets more head light, they should be at least 7-9 points head light when the racket weighs 12 ounces.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Makes no sense. I added leather grip, 2 overgrips and 10g buttcap and I still prefer a few more pts. HL.
 
Power Player said:
I have said this before, but Ill say it again. I found out that I have Dequarvains Tendinitis. It is a disease that you can aggravate from racquet sports like tennis. So for me, I have to use the safest possible racquets from now on to prevent flare ups. The Platinum is a very comfortable racquet but is not as good on the arm for me as ProKennex. Nothing really is. So that is why I had to switch.
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What a whiner. It's not a disease.
 
El Guapo said:
What a whiner. It's not a disease.
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Actually it is. And you are a tough guy behind a keyboard and also an idiot.

I just don't want people to think the Donnays, or any one racquet caused this. It developed over the period of 2 years. I am simply being preventative at this point.
 
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Power Player said:
I have said this before, but Ill say it again. I found out that I have Dequarvains Tendinitis. It is a disease that you can aggravate from racquet sports like tennis. So for me, I have to use the safest possible racquets from now on to prevent flare ups. The Platinum is a very comfortable racquet but is not as good on the arm for me as ProKennex. Nothing really is. So that is why I had to switch.
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Oh i did not know you had a prior wrist problem, that sucks hope it heals up.
 
tlm said:
Oh i did not know you had a prior wrist problem, that sucks hope it heals up.
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Thanks man. Yeah I didn't want to sound like a broken record and keep saying it, but it's been an issue that built up to where I had to stop playing for 2 months.
 
stevewcosta said:
I do not understand why donnay does not make their heavy rackets more head light, they should be at least 7-9 points head light when the racket weighs 12 ounces.
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Agreed. Makes no sense. I added leather grip, 2 overgrips and 10g buttcap and I still prefer a few more pts. HL.[/QUOTE]

You may need to ask for certain specs if/when you order Donnay racquets. I currently own (2) Dark Red's & (1) Blue 94 and they are very HL. Below is the specs for each.

DR - 12.84 ozs. & 12.5 pts. HL
DR - 12.87 ozs. & 12.5 pts. HL
B - 12.46 ozs. & 12 Pts. HL

Each racquet currently has the 5 g. butt cap, no slides, Super Grap overwraps, & the rubber piece that hides the grip tape. I did replace the grips on the DR's with leather.

I've just recently made some adjustments due to the hot temps. Previously I used 10 g. butt caps, (2) 1 oz. slides @ 3 & 9, and they were strung with BB Ace mains @ 53 lbs and Gamma LW XP crosses @ 57 lbs. I made the changes stated above, plus I increased the tensions to 55 & 60 respectively.

With the hotter weather, I was hitting what felt like really good shots that were finishing inches behind the baseline. With the changes, I'm not losing as many points, because most shots are staying in.
 
I do not understand why donnay does not make their heavy rackets more head light, they should be at least 7-9 points head light when the racket weighs 12 ounces.


I think how it is is ok. You can put it more headlight or head heavy depending on what you want. I generally prefer players racquet that are head heavy racquets in the head light range like the xblue 99 racquet, and also I think that it is easier to make a racquet headlighter than head heavier so I think is ok, and there is room for costumization it up or down.
 
athleticstennis said:
I do not understand why donnay does not make their heavy rackets more head light, they should be at least 7-9 points head light when the racket weighs 12 ounces.


I think how it is is ok. You can put it more headlight or head heavy depending on what you want. I generally prefer players racquet that are head heavy racquets in the head light range like the xblue 99 racquet, and also I think that it is easier to make a racquet headlighter than head heavier so I think is ok, and there is room for costumization it up or down.
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That makes no sense to say that you like players rackets that are head heavy rackets in the headlight range. There are no players rackets that are head heavy.
 
joeellis said:
Agreed. Makes no sense. I added leather grip, 2 overgrips and 10g buttcap and I still prefer a few more pts. HL.
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You may need to ask for certain specs if/when you order Donnay racquets. I currently own (2) Dark Red's & (1) Blue 94 and they are very HL. Below is the specs for each.

DR - 12.84 ozs. & 12.5 pts. HL
DR - 12.87 ozs. & 12.5 pts. HL
B - 12.46 ozs. & 12 Pts. HL

Each racquet currently has the 5 g. butt cap, no slides, Super Grap overwraps, & the rubber piece that hides the grip tape. I did replace the grips on the DR's with leather.

I've just recently made some adjustments due to the hot temps. Previously I used 10 g. butt caps, (2) 1 oz. slides @ 3 & 9, and they were strung with BB Ace mains @ 53 lbs and Gamma LW XP crosses @ 57 lbs. I made the changes stated above, plus I increased the tensions to 55 & 60 respectively.

With the hotter weather, I was hitting what felt like really good shots that were finishing inches behind the baseline. With the changes, I'm not losing as many points, because most shots are staying in.[/QUOTE]




Where did you come up with these specs? These rackets are nowhere near 12 points headlight, sure you did not add a lead over wrap. I know from experimenting with the 5 and 10 gram butt cap weights that you only gain a point or 2 from those. Did you check the balance yourself? The rackets weigh over 12 ounces by just adding a over wrap which still makes them maybe 5 points head light. Seems like it would be hard to gain 7 more points by adding less than a half ounce.
 
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stevewcosta said:
I do not understand why donnay does not make their heavy rackets more head light, they should be at least 7-9 points head light when the racket weighs 12 ounces.
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Agreed. Makes no sense. I added leather grip, 2 overgrips and 10g buttcap and I still prefer a few more pts. HL.[/QUOTE]

If they are not out of spec, they should start out 5 pt HL, change to leather grip is 2 more pt HL, 2 OG is 1pt HL each, 10G is 2-3 pt HL, that's 11-13 pt HL, you still want more?

Now, I got 2 matched, but out of spec gold 99, they are 3 pt HL instead of 5, 6.5g light than spec as well, changed to wilson pro hybrid bought them back to 5 pt HL, +1 OG it's about 6 pt HL and 11.6 Oz strung. Works fine for me as I don't want something too HL anyway.
 
I wonder... since the Donnays have that serial number system composed of the racquet's weight, balance and flex are your specs more or less the same as stated on the serial number?
 
tlm said:
.Where did you come up with these specs? These rackets are nowhere near 12 points headlight, sure you did not add a lead over wrap. I know from experimenting with the 5 and 10 gram butt cap weights that you only gain a point or 2 from those. Did you check the balance yourself? The rackets weigh over 12 ounces by just adding a over wrap which still makes them maybe 5 points head light. Seems like it would be hard to gain 7 more points by adding less than a half ounce.
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I have a small postal scale and a balance board I purchased from TW. I'm pretty sure these specs. are on the nose. They surely feel that HL. According to TW, the Blue is 6 pts. HL & the DR is 5 pts HL, which should make my findings reasonably close.
 
joeellis said:
I have a small postal scale and a balance board I purchased from TW. I'm pretty sure these specs. are on the nose. They surely feel that HL. According to TW, the Blue is 6 pts. HL & the DR is 5 pts HL, which should make my findings reasonably close.
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According to tw the specs on the plat. 94 is 7 points headlight, but the demo i have is only 4 points. I learned a long time ago that what is listed on the racket or the websites should be close to what the rackets specs are, but many times is way off.

Also i rarely if ever find the rackets to be lighter or more headlight than what the specs say, they are always heavier than what is listed. So lets say your dr was close to the 5 points headlight as listed, you would have to gain 7 points with only being able to add less than a half ounce of weight.

That seems like it would be tough to do. But if you have a digital scale and balance board you should know what the exact specs are, i would suggest checking them again.
 
tlm said:
According to tw the specs on the plat. 94 is 7 points headlight, but the demo i have is only 4 points. I learned a long time ago that what is listed on the racket or the websites should be close to what the rackets specs are, but many times is way off.

Also i rarely if ever find the rackets to be lighter or more headlight than what the specs say, they are always heavier than what is listed. So lets say your dr was close to the 5 points headlight as listed, you would have to gain 7 points with only being able to add less than a half ounce of weight.

That seems like it would be tough to do. But if you have a digital scale and balance board you should know what the exact specs are, i would suggest checking them again.
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I've checked them multiple times with the same results. My racquets may error toward the more HL side of things stock, but I feel sure my results are accurate.
 
My Dark Red is 12.8 oz and about 11-12 pts. HL. My Gold is about 0.2 oz lighter and about the same balance. I am adding about 20 grams to the handle and 4-6 to the hoop.

Mike
 
Here is a link to view photos of my Donnay's. The closeup photos taken of the butt on the balance board are obviously at an angle. Looking straight down, I lined them up as closely as possible on the 27" racquet mark. In the photos of the scale, I show it calibrated @ 0 grams/ozs. and 100.1 grams/3.53 ozs. with a 100 calibrated weight. All 3 new Donnay's are in the 12 to 12.5 pts. HL range.

http://s934.photobucket.com/albums/ad188/lespauljoe/Donnay racquets/
 
I have been demoing the platinum 94 + the silver lite, they are both very solid sticks. The platinum hits better flat shots and excellent slices, but i don't get as good as spin for looping top spin shots.

The silver lite with 10 grams on the butt cap and over wrap weighs in at 11.1 ounces and 6 points hl. It came at 10.6 ounces and 2 points head light. I have been using the white so this racket has the same balance and weight.

I think i agree with nadal=borg the dual cores are special, this racket played better than anything i have ever used. I thought the white was great but this dual core seems much better. The feel is unique but seems very comfy. and super solid, great spin and controllable power.

I have only used it once so i will see in the next week how good this stick really is but i already know it is a special stick. The solid distinct hit is unbelievable in a racket of this weight. All my shots had more spin power and pop, the serve was definitely better both flat serves and spin serves. This could be what i have been looking for.
 
Strung my Black 99 up with some Gamma Zo Twist 16 and it really bites into the ball. I have none of the slide-weights in and the middle (5g?) endcap. This set up with that string had my kick serves really kicking up high on the Har Tru today and my groundies had nice pace and really good spin. Also, I own several sticks now and my Donnays (I also have a Red 99) are just a pure joy to hit.
 
Question for real-world Donnay users: I seek the heaviest, stiffer racket - which one is firmer between the Platinum 99 and Black 99? Also, do the grips run true to size? My K90 3/8 felt fine until it blew out with the addition of an overgrip, and I'm reluctant to make the same mistake again (I have no opportunities to demo)

PS. sorry I'm only up to page 6 and have 68 pages to go through. Any advice appreciated cheers
 
I own both the Black and Platinum, the Platinum is more stiff for sure. I found the grip size to be true to size (others have found it to be slightly smaller).
 
X-Dual Pro. Miami Tiburon, can you speak to it? Saw in another thread that you had a chance to hit with it. Any thoughts to how it compares to the Dual Cores - particularly the Plat 94 - would be appreciated.
 
HiroProtagonist said:
http://www.donnayusa.com/xpdual.htm
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That racquet is not quite an oversize by today's standards... It looks more like donnay's version of a tweener frame.

I mean a real, 107-110 inch oversize... A thin constant beam, heavier(upwards of 12 ounces strung), 18X20 string pattern...

I would really like to see Donnay incorporate their new technology into a Player's oversize frame... Maybe an update of their Donnay Pro One except employing their xenecore technology, a thinner beam, an 18X19 or 18X20 string pattern and more weight (at least 12.1 or ideally around 12.5 strung)

It has been a LONG time since any company has made a proper Oversize Player's racquet. The closest would probably be the Head Radical Oversize, but that racquet has issues like the trampoline effect created by a 16X19 string pattern, the light weight and manuverability hindered by a 21mm beam.

I think Donnay would be an ideal fit to produce an unparalleled Player's OS racquet.
 
Player#1 said:
That racquet is not quite an oversize by today's standards... It looks more like donnay's version of a tweener frame.

I mean a real, 107-110 inch oversize... A thin constant beam, heavier(upwards of 12 ounces strung), 18X20 string pattern...

I would really like to see Donnay incorporate their new technology into a Player's oversize frame... Maybe an update of their Donnay Pro One except employing their xenecore technology, a thinner beam, an 18X19 or 18X20 string pattern and more weight (at least 12.1 or ideally around 12.5 strung)

It has been a LONG time since any company has made a proper Oversize Player's racquet. The closest would probably be the Head Radical Oversize, but that racquet has issues like the trampoline effect created by a 16X19 string pattern, the light weight and manuverability hindered by a 21mm beam.

I think Donnay would be an ideal fit to produce an unparalleled Player's OS racquet.
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Oh well, to me anything over 95" feels like an OS so......

I get where your coming from, I just dont think there is much of a market for such a racquet.
 
JGads said:
X-Dual Pro. Miami Tiburon, can you speak to it? Saw in another thread that you had a chance to hit with it. Any thoughts to how it compares to the Dual Cores - particularly the Plat 94 - would be appreciated.
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I really like both frames just got more power from the X Dual Pro.
The specs are perfect for my liking. I use the X Dual as my
primary stick and the Plat 94 as my back up. In the X pro
I have my favorite specs in a solid frame with the xenecore
technology. I do get a little more control from the plat 94 but
not enough difference to give up the power I get from the
X Pro
 
Miami Tiburon said:
I really like both frames just got more power from the X Dual Pro.
The specs are perfect for my liking. I use the X Dual as my
primary stick and the Plat 94 as my back up. In the X pro
I have my favorite specs in a solid frame with the xenecore
technology. I do get a little more control from the plat 94 but
not enough difference to give up the power I get from the
X Pro
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Thanks Miami. How about feel? Softer/fuller/crisper/? than the Platinum? Wondering how that thicker frame feels to the rest of the line, by comparison.
 
HiroProtagonist said:
Oh well, to me anything over 95" feels like an OS so......

I get where your coming from, I just dont think there is much of a market for such a racquet.
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Well, 95" probably was oversize until the POG 110 came out.

It does seem like there wouldn't be a market at first glance...

However, the Radical OS has a good following, the POG 110 has a good following and the Donnay Pro One OS has a good following. These racquets were all released over 15 years ago. The radical has been updated constantly, but it was morphed into a rec player's OS.

The reason it seems there is not a market for this is because there hasn't been a New oversize player's racquet for so long... There is nothing even close out there.

Donnay seems to be the most innovative racquet manufacturer at the moment, so if anyone could do this right, it would be them.

If they were to make an OS player's racquet, they could very well develop a racquet unlike anything there has ever been!

My favorite frames have been the Pure Drive and Extreme types, but if something like this came out, I would be sold on it.

I'm hoping they do...
 
JGads said:
Thanks Miami. How about feel? Softer/fuller/crisper/? than the Platinum? Wondering how that thicker frame feels to the rest of the line, by comparison.
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Crisper, and more power , that's about it for me it just feels
livelier than the Plat 94. I find all Donnays to play on the
softer side very comfortable frames because of the Xenecore.
If it wasnt that I got my hands on the X dual Pro , I would be very
happy using the Plat 94
 
Miami Tiburon said:
Crisper, and more power , that's about it for me it just feels
livelier than the Plat 94. I find all Donnays to play on the
softer side very comfortable frames because of the Xenecore.
If it wasnt that I got my hands on the X dual Pro , I would be very
happy using the Plat 94
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Thanks for the feedback, man. Seems like it could be a perfect frame. Still feel a touch disconnected to the ball with the Plat 94, but it does so much so well.
 
Player#1 said:
That racquet is not quite an oversize by today's standards... It looks more like donnay's version of a tweener frame.

I mean a real, 107-110 inch oversize... A thin constant beam, heavier(upwards of 12 ounces strung), 18X20 string pattern...

I would really like to see Donnay incorporate their new technology into a Player's oversize frame... Maybe an update of their Donnay Pro One except employing their xenecore technology, a thinner beam, an 18X19 or 18X20 string pattern and more weight (at least 12.1 or ideally around 12.5 strung)

It has been a LONG time since any company has made a proper Oversize Player's racquet. The closest would probably be the Head Radical Oversize, but that racquet has issues like the trampoline effect created by a 16X19 string pattern, the light weight and manuverability hindered by a 21mm beam.

I think Donnay would be an ideal fit to produce an unparalleled Player's OS racquet.
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I understand your feeling. I have played OS racquet like Head Radical OS Agassi before. It's one of the best groundstroke hitting racquet that I can hit the ball very clean while staying aggressive. It's a truly player frame. It's quite unique and I cannot find the racquet that match to it. I tried other 107 sq.in racquet as well, but still cannot find a close match.

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Earlier this year, we tested the X-Platinum 104 which is oversized racquet with 18x20 string pattern. It feels much better than other today's oversized racquets, and very easy to control. However, it's still not in a player racquet category like Head Radical OS Agassi.

Donnay_XP_104_03.JPG


If you don't mind about head size, try the Platinum 99. The sweet spot is pretty generous. And of course, you will get the solid/control feel of thin beam you like.

Donnay_X-Dual_Platinum_99_07.JPG
 
Can anyone give me a head to head comparison of the Gold, Plat, and Red 94's?

I usually prefer a 18x20 but for some reason I feel like they wont have enough pop in these new Donnays, also the open sp's seem to have plenty of control, so Im interested in the red and gold, but the plat seems to be a favorite on here.
 
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