New Dunlop Biomimetic Line

Calvet

New User
Anyone know when they will make available to the U.S. new biomimetic 100? Dunlop is making a failure to provide only a few models for the U.S. market. Dunlop 4D100 Soon to be launched, and was the last to be "released" for sale, marketing game. Dunlop now shows all the models, and releases only a few for sale. Even in the UK are available Model 100, 200, lite version of biomimetic.
Who knows more about the sale please share with admirer of the brand.

I want to change my "jewels" for the new Biomimetic 100.

Thanks
 
control on Serves only. overall control was pretty good.

The Extra 1/2 inch you are used to is the difference 100%. I love the 1/2" for the serve, but it always makes me late off the ground and I cannot stand getting jammed up on quick volleys. I really think 1/4" is about the close to the best of both worlds you can get, but since you almost always have to pick 1/2 or standard, I'll stick with standard since serve speed is not my strong suit anyway - it's all about the placement :)

BOBFL...I agree with you on the 600 and the BW. I have not tried it as a hybrid, but continue to be amazed at the feel even with a full set. I too love the sound it makes. It seems to last quite well, and I've found that I actually wear the edges off after about 12 hours of hitting. I've not broken it yet, but the fading edges are a good reminder of when it's time to re-string.
 
What is the tension maintenance like after 12 hours?

It's actually quite good. I string my multis at 62lbs, and did it with the BW just to see what it would do...LOVED IT. No need to string down like so many polys, and it's holding steady just where I like it.
 
Was just browsing Dunlop's site and noticed that the 300 Plus is just another version of the 600 Lite, as far as I can tell. Slightly less stiff and slightly lighter, and more head heavy.

http://www.dunlopsport.com/gb/catalog/2010/tennis/rackets/biomimetic-600-lite

http://www.dunlopsport.com/gb/catalog/2010/tennis/rackets/biomimetic-300-plus

I find this extremely odd.

My bet is that you'll never see this racquet in the US...It's probably designed more for the Asian market.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
600 is not oversized racquet. It is not bigger than your Instinct for sure. They just wanted to make a distinction/segmentation in their offering. Furthermore, you can add weight easily. And if I may add, you pay too much attention to raw numbers and that means little to nothing in this business. 600 is super comfy and it doesn't feel stiff at all. YT Radical MP felt stiffer to me!?

Bob, I tried the 600 yesterday. Yes, it doesn't look too "oversized" and could pass for a 100 if u didn't measure. It had a decent swingweight and wasn't too light, but it didn't feel "super comfy" to me at all. Felt very stiff with almost no flex to the frame. No way this racquet is flexier than the YT Radical MP. JMO.
 

Fedace

Banned
The Extra 1/2 inch you are used to is the difference 100%. I love the 1/2" for the serve, but it always makes me late off the ground and I cannot stand getting jammed up on quick volleys. I really think 1/4" is about the close to the best of both worlds you can get, but since you almost always have to pick 1/2 or standard, I'll stick with standard since serve speed is not my strong suit anyway - it's all about the placement :)

BOBFL...I agree with you on the 600 and the BW. I have not tried it as a hybrid, but continue to be amazed at the feel even with a full set. I too love the sound it makes. It seems to last quite well, and I've found that I actually wear the edges off after about 12 hours of hitting. I've not broken it yet, but the fading edges are a good reminder of when it's time to re-string.

johnny, the dunlop 600 lite i also used was 27.25 inch long. so it was on ly 0.25 inches shorter. do you it makes that much difference on the serves ?
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
Bob, I tried the 600 yesterday. Yes, it doesn't look too "oversized" and could pass for a 100 if u didn't measure. It had a decent swingweight and wasn't too light, but it didn't feel "super comfy" to me at all. Felt very stiff with almost no flex to the frame. No way this racquet is flexier than the YT Radical MP. JMO.

:) OK then, 1 variable less in Jack's equation ;)
I really like 600. Dunno, YTRMP felt like a plank of wood to me. 600 is super nice when hybridized (black widow and nvy and orange enduro pro 17 and nvy).
 

Buckethead

Banned
johnny, the dunlop 600 lite i also used was 27.25 inch long. so it was on ly 0.25 inches shorter. do you it makes that much difference on the serves ?

There is a Yonex Pro RD 70 Long 105 on ****, 28 inches long, Flex 56 or 58, 320g +, 16x19, 17mm beam width.
You should buy it, I think it's only $70 bucks and is still a Pro's stick with big Head size and a lot of spin and comfort better than anything dunlop will ever make, and made in Japan.
 
johnny, the dunlop 600 lite i also used was 27.25 inch long. so it was on ly 0.25 inches shorter. do you it makes that much difference on the serves ?

I actually don't mind the 1/4 extra length...Gives a little more pop on the serve IMO, but doesn't jam you up on the tight volleys (or when my feet get lazy).

The 1/2" is clearly better for serves to me, but I can't stand the feel after that point.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
:) OK then, 1 variable less in Jack's equation ;)
I really like 600. Dunno, YTRMP felt like a plank of wood to me. 600 is super nice when hybridized (black widow and nvy and orange enduro pro 17 and nvy).

May have been the demo strings, but to me it felt very "PureDrive like". Not much flex or cusioning at impact.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Just read TW's review on the 300. Comments sound mixed on this one from the TW gang. Definitely not the overly positive review they gave the 4d 300.
 
My box of Biomimetics arrived today - the 100, 200 Lite (95/327g/16x19) and 2 x 300 Tours.

Will have look at them when I have some more time next week.

Definitely not the overly positive review they gave the 4d 300.

TW have never reviewed the 4D 300.
 
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Bought and played with the Bio 200 Plus this week. Was very pleasantly surprised. Nice spin, very stable frame, served really well and sliced really well. Control was solid and decent ball pocketing. Best 100 sq inch frame I've used.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
The new Bio 300 Tour is awesome. I have been hitting with it the last two days. I like it much better and different than the AG 4D 300 Tour.
 

ART ART

Semi-Pro
The new Bio 300 Tour is awesome. I have been hitting with it the last two days. I like it much better and different than the AG 4D 300 Tour.

Interesting, since other users said that the only diference they feel, was the paintjob...:confused:

Can you do a review for us, comparing it to the 4D 300Tour?

Thanks
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Interesting, since other users said that the only diference they feel, was the paintjob...:confused:

Can you do a review for us, comparing it to the 4D 300Tour?

Thanks

Sure. The Bio 300 Tour has less vibration, a much more muted feel which I like. Also in stock form I found I could get better penetration on my shots with the Bio 300 Tour. With the AG 4D 300 Tour in stock form I had a hard time getting any mustard on the ball. It was not until I added weight to the AG 4D 300 Tour to have it customized to my Spec did I feel my shots had any pop. With the Bio 300 Tour I felt comfortable with the power level with my shots in stock form.

I am very tempted to buy a Bio 300 Tour but I will hold off for now.

Hope this was helpful.
 

Fedace

Banned
I also felt like the manuverability was surprisingly good. When i just held it and swing it around, it felt kind of clumsy. but when i started to hit practice volleys,,,,i was suprised how fast i could get the head of the racket into position......i am talking about 300 biomimetic.
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
OK, I finally tried 300 and 300T! I didn't like 300T one bit. It felt dead (again:() and very muted. However, 300 was awesome! Simply fantastic frame and totally different than 4D version: crisp and super solid...
 

tennisnoob3

Professional
OK, I finally tried 300 and 300T! I didn't like 300T one bit. It felt dead (again:() and very muted. However, 300 was awesome! Simply fantastic frame and totally different than 4D version: crisp and super solid...

ive heard theres not too much room to add lead in the head. did it look difficult or no?
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
ive heard theres not too much room to add lead in the head. did it look difficult or no?

You mean 'room' like space or 'room' like 'it would be too much to handle'? Sorry, I am not trying to be smart *** here, just want to be sure because it has very low sw so I see no reason for that kind of a problem and the other option is the only alternative meaning that I see :)
 

Mig1NC

Professional
I haven't tried the Bio 300, but I had two hotmelt 300s that had plenty of room for adding lead, in anyway you might imagine.
 

ART ART

Semi-Pro
Sure. The Bio 300 Tour has less vibration, a much more muted feel which I like. Also in stock form I found I could get better penetration on my shots with the Bio 300 Tour. With the AG 4D 300 Tour in stock form I had a hard time getting any mustard on the ball. It was not until I added weight to the AG 4D 300 Tour to have it customized to my Spec did I feel my shots had any pop. With the Bio 300 Tour I felt comfortable with the power level with my shots in stock form.

I am very tempted to buy a Bio 300 Tour but I will hold off for now.

Hope this was helpful.

Thank's vsbabolat,
And what about the RA ? this new have 64 vs 63 on the old one.
Did it felt much more stiff?
I really like the softness of the 4D version.

I have the 4D 300T version, wich I really like. But now I know that the new Bio version have a different feel.

Cheers
 
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tennisnoob3

Professional
You mean 'room' like space or 'room' like 'it would be too much to handle'? Sorry, I am not trying to be smart *** here, just want to be sure because it has very low sw so I see no reason for that kind of a problem and the other option is the only alternative meaning that I see :)

physical space, i should have clarified that.
 

li0scc0

Hall of Fame
No worries! :) There is plenty of space!

Agreed! I demo'd this racquet and added 12 grams of 1/4 inch lead (48 total inches). No problem at all.

My difficulty with the Biomimetic 300 and 300 Tour is that I like a swingweight around 340, a weight around 12.2, and a balance of 6 pts headlight. With these Dunlops and their low swingweight, this spec is not really possible. That is NOT a knock on the racquets, just that they don't work for me.
That said, I did demo, and compared to the 4d 300 and 4d 300 Tour. When weighted up to 12.1-12.2 and SW of 335-340 (I did not have 'my' balance, but in the range), they are:
- more muted, and easier on the arm
- slightly more powerful (not cannons or rocket launchers, but the depth was a bit easier to come by)
- better looking (subjective, of course). These are gorgeous racquets
- less hollow. I always thought the 4d 300 TOUR was a hollow feeling, dead racquet. The Biomimetic is not hollow, it is as solid a racquet as I have ever used.
After using the 300 and 300 Tour (Biomimetic) I was ready to switch...after the first day. It was only after repeated hitting that I realized the balance issues (at my spec) made this a racquet I could not use effectively. That said, I urge anybody who loves racquets in the 95-100 square inch spec range to gives these a shot. Truly a delightful hit.
 

klementine

Hall of Fame
What's the word on the Bio 100??

Anyone hit with it??

The Bio 100 and 200 plus are the only Dunlops I'd like to demo....
 

lwto

Hall of Fame
I found the 200 plus to be a gentle racquet.. meaning the shots seem very slow off the string bed. I never get the impression that the ball is heavy, whereas on my kblade, my balls are very penetrating and very heavy. I"m a little dissapointed in it.
 

djnemo

Rookie
Tried out the Biometric 200. This is a very different racquet when compared to the 4d 200. The only similarity is that both racquets have a long and narrow head shape. Although this is a 100 sq inch head size, the width is similar to a 95 inch head, and the length is similar to a 105 inch head. Anyways, my initial thoughts after a 30 minute hitting session.

Likes: Soft and slightly muted feel, great maneuverability, high quality paint job, thin beam, grip shape (similar to Head), volleys

Dislikes: too head-light, low power from the baseline, does not hit a heavy ball

Overall: If you are looking for a doubles stick, a swing weight of 315-320 works for you, or you don't mind customizing, this racquet may be worth a demo. I like my swingweight around 340 and a more even balance for baseline bashing. So while I like this racquet, its not worth the customization when there are other racquets on the market that more closely fit my needs.
 

tennis_balla

Hall of Fame
What's the word on the Bio 100??

Anyone hit with it??

The Bio 100 and 200 plus are the only Dunlops I'd like to demo....

My friend has it in his shop brand new as a demo, the 100. He asked me to hit with it but I declined. Feels too light and badly balanced for a player's stick. The 90 sq in head looks good and the gecko grip feels alright though I used leather under an overgrip in my rackets. The balance felt awkward like I said, it feels like there isn't enough weight in the grip and it didn't feel good just swinging it around. Picking up a Prestige MP (which I don't like either) was a different feel and a better balanced frame. Its nothing that lead couldn't fix, however I look for rackets that already have a good balance to begin with then customize further with lead tape.
When I balanced the racket inside the throat with my finger the grip dropped less then with a Prestige or Wilson Six-One. Like I said, not enough weight in the grip for a players stick.

If you guys want some up close photos I can take some either today or tomorrow. Just let me know.
 

Redflea

Hall of Fame
Ordered a Bio 300 demo, been using the 4D 300 since around the time it came out, and the AG 300 and the old M-Fil 300 before that. I like Dunlop 300's. :)

I compared the 4D 300 and Bio 300 in the store, and the Bio appears to have a thinner beam, which is interesting, since the AG 300 and 4D are pretty much the same. I haven't read a lot of this thread, so maybe that's already been discussed.

The "golf ball" sculpting looks OK, was worried it would look stupid in person. Overall the racquet looks good to me. Appearance shouldn't matter too much, but it's nice when you don't hate how your racquet looks. :)

Looking forward to hitting w/it this weekend. Got Volkl and Boris Becker demos to compare it to...
 

hescobal

Rookie
My friend has it in his shop brand new as a demo, the 100. He asked me to hit with it but I declined. Feels too light and badly balanced for a player's stick. The 90 sq in head looks good and the gecko grip feels alright though I used leather under an overgrip in my rackets. The balance felt awkward like I said, it feels like there isn't enough weight in the grip and it didn't feel good just swinging it around. Picking up a Prestige MP (which I don't like either) was a different feel and a better balanced frame. Its nothing that lead couldn't fix, however I look for rackets that already have a good balance to begin with then customize further with lead tape.
When I balanced the racket inside the throat with my finger the grip dropped less then with a Prestige or Wilson Six-One. Like I said, not enough weight in the grip for a players stick.

If you guys want some up close photos I can take some either today or tomorrow. Just let me know.
I'd be interested in pics and also would like to know what the stiffness RA is. Thanks
 

Nextman916

Professional
My friend has it in his shop brand new as a demo, the 100. He asked me to hit with it but I declined. Feels too light and badly balanced for a player's stick. The 90 sq in head looks good and the gecko grip feels alright though I used leather under an overgrip in my rackets. The balance felt awkward like I said, it feels like there isn't enough weight in the grip and it didn't feel good just swinging it around. Picking up a Prestige MP (which I don't like either) was a different feel and a better balanced frame. Its nothing that lead couldn't fix, however I look for rackets that already have a good balance to begin with then customize further with lead tape.
When I balanced the racket inside the throat with my finger the grip dropped less then with a Prestige or Wilson Six-One. Like I said, not enough weight in the grip for a players stick.

If you guys want some up close photos I can take some either today or tomorrow. Just let me know.

Please, I'm interested in some photos as well.
 

Alan_Hill

Rookie
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Ten_nuts

Semi-Pro
Hi guys, please read this if you thought you like the new Dunlop Bio. 200 Plus. Like others already mentioned about this racquet: nice looking, thin beams, not too harsh on the arm, easy to swing, and VERY LOW POWER... I have to capitalized the VERY LOW POWER because i just found out 1 very important thing about this racquet: this new Dunlop Bio. 200 PLus is like a 26 1/3 inches length racquet. Yes my friends, the Bio. 200 Plus is 27 long but it plays like a Jr. racquet. Why? please read on. Has anyone ever tried the Kneissl Red Star? The Red Star is 27.5 inches long but if you 1st pick it up and play, you will not know it's 27.5 inches long; instead you would think this is a 27 inch racquet. Because if you measure the Red Star with a standard racquet FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN TO THE END OF HANDLE, you will see that they are the same. Only the Red Star's head shape is 1/2" longer than a standard 98 Midplus head shape. Now if i compare the length of the BIO 200 Plus with a standard 98 Midplus racquet FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN TO THE END OF HANDLE, it's clearly to see that the Bio 200 Plus is 2/3" shorter than the standard 27" Midplus racquet. The Bio 200 Plus i demo from TW is not a light racquet, and the headlight is no more than 2 points (not 6 points like someone said above). When i 1st picked it up, it's really got some weight, so i tried to weigh the racquet and: 11.87 oz strung weight with 1 Dunlop squared dampener, no overgrip. Again, anyone who plays tennis for awhile would know a strung racquet at 11.87 oz with around 2 points headlight should have the swingweight much more than 320 (TW specs say 317). But i am so so so surprised that the Bio 200 Plus is very very very easy to swing, exactly like someone in this thread said earlier. By now i think you guys already know the racquet, right? A heavy racquet with heavy swingweight (supposed) but it's easily to swing and the ball lands at net a lot???? I am not going to play with this racquet. Oh, i think Davydenko must be playing with a 27.5 or 27.75" Bio 200 plus. Last but not least, if you love the look, the specs of this Bio 200 Plus like me, please wait patiently until you get it demo 1st before buying, or.... you will be sorry. Thanks for reading, gains. Have a great weekend.
 

tennisnoob3

Professional
Hi guys, please read this if you thought you like the new Dunlop Bio. 200 Plus. Like others already mentioned about this racquet: nice looking, thin beams, not too harsh on the arm, easy to swing, and VERY LOW POWER... I have to capitalized the VERY LOW POWER because i just found out 1 very important thing about this racquet: this new Dunlop Bio. 200 PLus is like a 26 1/3 inches length racquet. Yes my friends, the Bio. 200 Plus is 27 long but it plays like a Jr. racquet. Why? please read on. Has anyone ever tried the Kneissl Red Star? The Red Star is 27.5 inches long but if you 1st pick it up and play, you will not know it's 27.5 inches long; instead you would think this is a 27 inch racquet. Because if you measure the Red Star with a standard racquet FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN TO THE END OF HANDLE, you will see that they are the same. Only the Red Star's head shape is 1/2" longer than a standard 98 Midplus head shape. Now if i compare the length of the BIO 200 Plus with a standard 98 Midplus racquet FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN TO THE END OF HANDLE, it's clearly to see that the Bio 200 Plus is 2/3" shorter than the standard 27" Midplus racquet. The Bio 200 Plus i demo from TW is not a light racquet, and the headlight is no more than 2 points (not 6 points like someone said above). When i 1st picked it up, it's really got some weight, so i tried to weigh the racquet and: 11.87 oz strung weight with 1 Dunlop squared dampener, no overgrip. Again, anyone who plays tennis for awhile would know a strung racquet at 11.87 oz with around 2 points headlight should have the swingweight much more than 320 (TW specs say 317). But i am so so so surprised that the Bio 200 Plus is very very very easy to swing, exactly like someone in this thread said earlier. By now i think you guys already know the racquet, right? A heavy racquet with heavy swingweight (supposed) but it's easily to swing and the ball lands at net a lot???? I am not going to play with this racquet. Oh, i think Davydenko must be playing with a 27.5 or 27.75" Bio 200 plus. Last but not least, if you love the look, the specs of this Bio 200 Plus like me, please wait patiently until you get it demo 1st before buying, or.... you will be sorry. Thanks for reading, gains. Have a great weekend.

someone must have added lead, theres no way its 11.8 oz strung if it is truly a 200 plus. skeptical about your grip length comment as well...anyone want to confirm?
 

drumnman2

Rookie
I also had a demo of this racquet. Mine weighted 12.1 oz with the dampener and a Gamma Supreme over grip. It was 7 1/2 points head light. Quite a bit different balance than yours but the overgrip is .2 oz. so the weight is about the same. This one just didn't do it for me but I loved the
paint job. I liked the 300 tour much better.
 

Ten_nuts

Semi-Pro
Hi Tennisnoob3, and how are you doing? No, i received it as a demo from TW. I didn't try to add weight nor modify it in anyway. This is a weird racquet. If you like it, demo it first and you'll see what i mean.
 

tennisnoob3

Professional
Hi Tennisnoob3, and how are you doing? No, i received it as a demo from TW. I didn't try to add weight nor modify it in anyway. This is a weird racquet. If you like it, demo it first and you'll see what i mean.

i find it very odd that yours(and drumnman2's) was around .4 oz over tw's listed strung weight with just a dampener
 
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