Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by batz, Mar 29, 2013.
Mercedes cup in stuttgart to become a grass event from 2015 . Happy days
Stupid idea, I hope the tournament gets disbanded. They need to keep clay-court tournaments and get rid of the hard-court tournaments by turning them into grass-court tournaments. Turning clay into grass is not the way forward. Maybe roger federer will want to play this tournament a lot to try to emulate Rafael Nadal's dominance at Barcelona (not that it would be a complete emulation, not only since federer probably couldn't win it 7 times in 7 attempts, but also because Barcelona is an ATP 500 and a far more prestigious event, than the Stuttgart Open, an ATP 250).
I wonder how hard it was for the ATP to add another grass court event instead of another slow hard court event. Must've been biting their knuckles.
On the flip side, maybe Rafael Nadal can play in Stuttgart instead and aim for a third title there (he'd become the first male player in open era history to do so), instead of Halle, and since they're both in Germany, it wouldn't be a major move.
Look forward to some more grass! It's my fav surface, so this is good news for me.
thank you stuttgart
Unfortunately not Masters?
That's what the tour needs at least ONE grass Masters event imo.
classic tw putting your needs infront of the players ahahahha
They should turn Shanghai, Cincinnati and Paris into grass-court events, since those three tournaments are fast surfaces anyway. They'd retain their Masters 1000 status and might even attract more viewers, and stop the ATP tour from being so skewed in favour of hard-courts.
You will probably get disbanded before Stuttgart.
My needs? LOL why would I NEED a Masters grass tournament?
The whole reason I want a grass Masters tournament is so the players can play a meaningful build up tournament before Wimbledon. So it's actually beneficial to the players not me.
IMO, they need to push Wimbledon back a couple of weeks and have a grass Masters tournament, then a week rest then play Wimbledon. So ideally it would go RG, week off, Grass Masters, week off, Wimbledon.
More grass is always welcome
That's a good idea! It's nice to have another grass court event to provide more surface variety. I look forward to it.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT A GRASS TOURNAMENT YOU ON THE OTHER HAND DO
Not bad. One less clay event though I'm not a huge fan of grass tennis either.
WHY ARE YOU TYPING ALL IN CAPS????
Please point out which players don't want a grass Masters event. Provide a link showing me that ALL players don't want it thank you...
Will it be shifted on the calendar to one of the weeks before Wimby? If so, great move! If not, kinda anticlimactic.
Other than Roger Federer, I doubt the players want a Masters Series on Grass. Grass tennis is quite boring imo. Hard courts allow for the most versatility.
I love grass but now we have two grass tournaments the week after Wimbledon? So the draw will be about half as good as Newport?
Yes, let's put slow hard courts everywhere, that way we'll get the most versatility. :lol:
The ones after Wimbledon are my favorite. Fair to everyone.
I think you guys are misunderstanding, Wimbledon is being moved a week back in 2015 and the tournament is taking place right after RG
Yes it will - this will be another a wimby warm up event - taking advantage of the extra week between RG finishing and Wimby starting.
Unfortunately he is unbannable, the mods have tried so many times to ban him but he keeps making new accounts.
That's what I was wondering. If it stays in its current slot, it won't be any better than Newport. All of the top players will be resting from Wimbledon and prepping for the US Open.
Great! I can see a budding rivalry between Halle and Stuttgart for grass court supremacy in Germany. If one of them can expand their facility to handle a bigger draw, possibly we'll see an upgrade to MS1000 status within a decade and Germany can regain its rightful role as a host for that level of an event. I'm a firm believer Hamburg should never have been demoted but Tiriac's fat wallet did them in.
Actually, maybe it will prompt both Halle and Stuttgart to expand and they can do a "Canada" with the men and women alternating between the two sites.
Awesome. Grass is massively underrepresented on the tour.
That would be great! I've always thought that this model is very good and helps lessen the financial burden for organizing two tournaments. And this way, both sites would probably get to see the (some) top players every year.
Hard courts may allow for the most versatility. They also allow for the most injuries.
The ATP, in my opinion, should increase the amount of grass and clay court tennis at the expense of hard and I believe its members would endorse that view overwhelmingly.
Hard-courts have been the plague of the ATP tour for too long. The ATP are forcing the players to play on hot coals, practically. That's why I said either the US Open or Australian Open should play on a constant cycle of clay -> grass -> hard-court. The Australian Open might be best suited for this since it's at the start of the year and some players won't have played any tournaments (or many tournaments) in the run up to it. (Hard-court was the surface in 2013, so clay should be the surface in 2014.) That way, it's a totally fair surface distribution (only if in addition we have an equal number of tournaments or parts of the year playing clay/grass/hard-court).
I would be fine even if they replaced all hard courts with grass ones. It is a great surface to play on and watch on TV.
They should drop Shanghai, in fact all Chinese events until they get the hell out of Tibet and keep their mitts off Taiwan ! :evil:
Maybe the ATP should put a little more emphasis on tradition and less on just money... Not gonna happen, though.
Happy and sad. Stuttgart has a good clay history. I remember Nadal, Coria, Muster winning the event. Ivanisevic won it too.
Without fans, there is no $. Without $, there is no ATP tour. Professional sports exist only because of fans, and pleasing the fans is the most effective way to grow/maintain the popularity of the sport... not to mention that you completely failed to show how this move is not in the players best interest in the first place. Jeez.
They should replace a hc event for grass, not a clay event. And there should be a masters before Wimbledon, not another 250...
I agree Crisstti. Ideally a new grass court event would replace a hard court tournament and actually be before Wimbledon. The fact that it replaces a clay court event instead is a negative, but overall it's nice to see an additional grass court event in my opinion.
Hardcourts are cheaper, not to mention widespread on tour, so it's money driven.
wow that's great then! I wonder if another one will spring up to partner with Stuggart like the Halle/Queens deal
You are the most ridiculous individual I know of, we're all sorry that Federer destroyed your dreams and aspirations (well that's the general idea you give to all the members here).
As soon as a grass court 1000 masters tourney comes to light you just have to **** on it just because its Freds best surface even though he'll be retired by 2015 LOL, but its all good to have 2 clay 1000 masters and some other 3 clay tournaments as long as your homeboy NADALO is winning them all
Of course grass requires a massive financial commitment relative to hard or clay even, but a good grass court is a wonderful surface to play on and when a pro gets used to it and masters its possibilities as Federer and Sampras before him, did, he ends up loving it like no other.
Only a juiced-up one dimensional like Moya would disparage grass because grass court tennis demands more from the player than brute force and endurance alone.
And yet, even the smallest football teams manage to keep a grass field. I can't believe tennis couldn't do it.
would be nice if they changed a major hardcourt tournament to grass (an ATP 1000)... i can actually see one of the lesser 500s or better 250 switching to grass in order to increase appeal. would be great way to stand out and would be useful if a few weeks/a month before wimbledon.
Absolutely stupid choice of week
Lets see queens, halle and stuttgart the same week, the week after roland garros. Absolutely stupid placement of week. Should be a week or two later and take advantage of wimbledon being a week later. The smartest week would have been a week later, that way players who went late into RG get a weeks break and would then compete there.
I think the idea is in 2015 when Wimbledon moves a week later, that queens/halle will move a week later in line with Wimbledon..this will then open up a free week after French open has finished seeing as wimby/queens/halle have moved forward a week,
so from 2015 French open finishes, next week Stuttgart grass, week after that queens/halle, week after Eastbourne grass, then week after its Wimbledon,
after Wimbledon will be Newport in usa which will also be moving forward from 2015..
French open...2wks clay,
Stuttgart ......1wk grass,
from 2015 there will be a 6 week grasscourt season happy days.
Scheduled for the week after RG and probably attracting those eliminated in the first week of RG.
Who is Fred?
Agreed! Nice Grasscourt swing.
ATP have been working towards this for 10 years...
Really pleased for Stuttgart as it will validate their event, giving Halle more players as well in Germany for the week after.
They still have a strong fan base in the area & it will give them a chance to see local grasscourt tennis.
It makes sense for lots of reasons but mainly for the structure of the tour.
Another win for the guys ranked 15-200.
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