New HEAD racket coming?

DustinW

DustinW

Professional
Don't get me wrong... I'm excited about the Tour. But it is pretty much a 305g Radical, right??? Beam width, head size, string pattern, and flex are all very similar to a Radical.
 
McGradey

McGradey

Hall of Fame
DustinW said:
Don't get me wrong... I'm excited about the Tour. But it is pretty much a 305g Radical, right??? Beam width, head size, string pattern, and flex are all very similar to a Radical.
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yeah. Extreme 98 sounds like it's a great racquet, but doesn’t this stop the music and leave the Radical without a chair?
 
dr325i

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
DustinW said:
Don't get me wrong... I'm excited about the Tour. But it is pretty much a 305g Radical, right??? Beam width, head size, string pattern, and flex are all very similar to a Radical.
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totally different layup.
Totally different racket
 
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mike841

Rookie
Seems pretty underwhelming - too similar to the Radical MP.

Look at how much lead he has on it as well:

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dr325i said:
however, the 360+ will be awesome ;)
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Not really.
 
smalahove

smalahove

Hall of Fame
DustinW said:
Don't get me wrong... I'm excited about the Tour. But it is pretty much a 305g Radical, right??? Beam width, head size, string pattern, and flex are all very similar to a Radical.
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Beam width:

360+ Rad Pro - 20/21.5/21 mm
360+ Rad MP - 20/23/21 mm
360+ Extreme Tour - 22/23/21 mm

All 98s btw.

The 360 Radical line couldn't be more different feel wise than the 360 Extreme line, ime.
Comparing the 360 Rad Pro to the Extreme MP or Pro is like comparing a Yonex VCore Pro 97 330g to a DR 100, ime. And with that comparison in mind, I'm leaning towards the new Extreme Tour to be a Ezone 98 / VCore 98 / Pure Strike 16x19 / Pure Aero VS type of racket, whereas the new Rad Pro will be more of a control racket leaning more towards a bigger 95 type of racket (6.1 95, VCore 95 aso) or can perhaps be seen as a slightly easier to play Prestige MP+ with a 16x19 pattern.
 
smalahove

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Came across this reg. stiffness (RDC) on the Extreme Tour:

62 RA, strung

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Head Extreme Tour

Head is, I believe, going to expose and promote the Extreme Series to a greater extent than before. Why do I think that? Because I am holding in my very own hands a Head Extreme Tour! This 98 squ…
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DustinW

DustinW

Professional
smalahove said:
The 360 Radical line couldn't be more different feel wise than the 360 Extreme line, ime.
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I definitely agree with you on the 360 line, but it seems like the new 360+ Extreme Tour is nothing like what the Extreme has always been. Going from 23/26/21mm 100 sq in to 22/23/21mm 98 sq in seems a lot more like a Radical than the 360 Extreme (or any prior Extreme).

Again... not complaining, but just seems like a strange move.
 
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Paul Y

Rookie
I'm curious does Extreme Tour have the extra large grommets (Spin Grommets) in the middle like the other extremes or did they remove them like the PA VS did. My son is really drawn to the spin grommets.
 
tribesmen

tribesmen

Professional
DustinW said:
I definitely agree with you on the 360 line, but it seems like the new 360+ Extreme Tour is nothing like what the Extreme has always been. Going from 23/26/21mm 100 sq in to 22/23/21mm 98 sq in seems a lot more like a Radical than the 360 Extreme (or any prior Extreme).

Again... not complaining, but just seems like a strange move.
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Extreme 100 sq, 23/26/21 is not going anywhere and will stay in Head assortment i.e. EXTREME PRO.
 
megamind

megamind

Legend
Raizu said:
Ok so 4 different players tried it out the Extreme Tour.

I had a complete beginner try it out for half of a lesson while the other half he used a Gravity Tour. Aside from not being able to tell the difference he did say when he hit it clean the Extreme Tour felt much better.

On to the real practice. Mancini’s former sparring partner just switched out of a Radical which he had used from his 20’s. He’s 49 now. He got 3 blades 16x19 so the comparison was fair. Same weight and string pattern. Within 5 minutes he said he hated me and stopped using the racquet because he just purchased 2 new blades last week. He ended up hitting with it for another hour and commented it was easier to swing and get heavy spin.

Following him my student who could have played D2 or small school D1 college but decided not to practiced with it for an hour. He’s been using a customized Prestige Tour that weighs 360g (my former racquet before the Prestige MP custom and now back to my 6.1 Stretch.) he said it was the easiest racquet he had ever played with. More control than the prestige tour yet more power. He couldn’t explain why. His ball was coming off much heavier and he was missing a lot less (I converted him into a clay Courter)

My turn. I hit with it 20 min out of 2 hours. It’s a bit stiffer than the Gravity yet has great feel. I use a 6.1 95 Stretch that weighs 355g with a SW of 353g so hitting with this was easy! From the baseline it felt crisp and easy to get topsin at will or flatten it out and still have control and accuracy. At the net it’s rock solid not far off the feel of my Wilson or my Prestige MP. The slice shot was the only time I felt the frame was too stiff. Otherwise I like it a bit better than the Gravity Pro and I think that racquet is perfect. I’m tempted to add some lead tape to it before doing any silicone since I have 2 frames but it will stay stock for a few more days.

because I know I will get asked. I strung it with Hawk Touch at 51lbs. Tomorrow if not over the weekend I will get together with @Geoff and post Strung specs and Unstrung Specs.

The direction Head is going with the Gravity and the Extreme Is fantastic. Great frames and the narrow beam just looks better lol.
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Thanks for the gr8 review
 
Raizu

Raizu

Semi-Pro
Update on the lead tape. I added 7.5g total weight at 3 and 9. Updated specs are:
SW - 331
Balance - 32.35

the racquet played fantastic. Even better than before. The ball was coming off pretty close to my 6.1 Stretch. I was very impressed. If they made a stretch version I could see myself considering a complete switch to that racquet.
 
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gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Raizu said:
Update on the lead tape. I added 7.5g total weight at 3 and 9. Updated specs are:
SW - 331
Balance - 32.35

the racquet played fantastic. Even better than before. The ball was coming off pretty close to my 6.1 Stretch. I was very impressed. If they made a stretch version I could see myself considering a complete switch to that racquet.
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String and tension?
 
Raizu

Raizu

Semi-Pro
gutfeeling said:
Nice to see it plays well with stiff poly at 50+ lbs. How much weight did you add to handle and where?
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I haven’t yet. I’m debating because the only way I do silicone since I’m a simple guy is direct inject into the handle. No undoing it once it’s done lol. If I do I will probably add 10-15g into the handle. I’ll decide after hitting with it this weekend if I mess with the balance or not.
 
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gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Raizu said:
I haven’t yet. I’m debating because the only way I do silicone since I’m a simple guy is direct inject into the handle. No undoing it once it’s done lol. If I do I will probably add 10-15g into the handle. I’ll decide after hitting with it this weekend if I mess with the balance or not.
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Did you add an overgrip? What’s your total static weight?
 
Nostradamus

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
[d]ragon said:
The headsize is supposedly 98 sq.in., but it is definitely bigger than 98. I held it against a Pure Strike 16x19 today and while the hoop is very slightly more narrow, it is longer at the bottom. The current Extremes are also like this: longer hoop at the bottom than other 100 sq.in. racquets.
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What is the new gimmick tech on this new racket ?? Nanobot tubes graphite that will make you better by 50 % or increase your level by 1/2 like from 4.0 to 4.5 ????
 
smalahove

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Head’s posted the new line on their site now:

Extreme Tour

The EXTREME TOUR is a new racquet in the EXTREME series, with innovative Graphene 360+ technology. It is designed for advanced tournament players looking for optimal spin and power.
www.head.com www.head.com
 
smalahove

smalahove

Hall of Fame
6august said:
No image of the Radicals yet???
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If you look at the new Speed Pro, and imagine that the black handle and throat area is silver gray (similar to the gray in the new Extreme line), then imagine the white hoop (of the speed pro again) is a salmon pink/red type of color (can also be described as a super faded and matte 80s red)
 
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