New Nikecourt zoom vapor 9.5 flyknit

kimguroo

Legend
Here is the pic.
Seems like Nike was too much worry about another shoe controversy so they picked white color for the graphic/image.
 

kimguroo

Legend
They did the skyline of NY on his shoes at the US Open back in 2010.
Yes. But the design of 2010 US open shoes were 10 times better than current Wimbledon shoes.
RF logo and "5" trophy were back center of the shoes and blue skyline graphic was nice touch around it.
Probably Nike should put skyline graphic at left side of shoes and put "7" trophy at right side of shoes.
 
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pobbles

Guest
I can't decide whether I like it or not. At first you think cool, then you think it's a bit of a mess and being white only us die hard fans will ever see it. Seems a bit pointless to me.

I've just stuck a black 'trophy 7' on mine ; )
 

Al Czervik

Hall of Fame
Something is definitely a bit off with these shoes. They are tight on the tops of my feet, although I guess I can loosen the laces. They feel stiff because of the rubber or plastic in the toebox. I will say that they felt a lot better after wearing them for a couple of hours. They are definitely not worth $200 or $180, but if you can scoop them up on sale, they may be worth the collector's item. But, I would stick with regular vapors.
 
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We do have vapor flyknits coming out for the open as well. So there will be a definite test period to see how the customer base feels about it
I'm never buying Flyknit as tennis shoes. The material they use now rips very easily and quickly get holes in the side of the shoes with the mildest side toe dragging. The flyknit won't stand a chance on hard court....kiss that $200 goodbye.
 

kimguroo

Legend
Now Federer is wearing the shoes with black skyline image.
Looks different skyline image???

I just got flyknit shoes and I was very skeptical about the shoes but it's well made. Noticeably lighter feeling for me and inside of shoes has plastic rubber material which is similar to vapor 6 but less stiff feeling.

I agree that if one drags shoes at side part of shoes, flyknit material will not last but there will be another layer so basically it will be same as other tennis shoes without flyknit.

Definitely Nike is testing flyknit materials with public and next vapor might be based on that result.

BTW. $180-200 for tennis shoes which lasts around 70hrs is too much though.
 
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lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
Now Federer is wearing the shoes with black skyline image.
Looks different skyline image???

I just got flyknit shoes and I was very skeptical about the shoes but it's well made. Noticeably lighter feeling for me and inside of shoes has plastic rubber material which is similar to vapor 6 but less stiff feeling.

I agree that if one drags shoes at side part of shoes, flyknit material will not last but there will be another layer so basically it will be same as other tennis shoes without flyknit.

Definitely Nike is testing flyknit materials with public and next vapor might be based on that result.

BTW. $180-200 for tennis shoes which lasts around 70hrs is too much though.
Yeah, I just got the shoes today too. There are two layers of material. The outer is the flyknit material, the inner is a harder stiffer layer for protection. Unlike the running Flyknit shoes with only one layer, I think the entire upper will last longer than people think.
Nike uses the same type of construction for the Kobe Elite shoes, and people are very satisfied with those.
 

TMCW140

Hall of Fame
^^^that's a crossover with Liberty's.

Tried a pair of flyknits on yesterday - definitely lighter than norm and s nice feel to them. Definitely stiffer than normal versions but retains the lock down feel
 
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pobbles

Guest
BBC just showed a close up of black skyline. Its same as white above
 
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Rhino

Legend
I see someone on the Bay has already had a go at customising the flynits; was that you Kimguroo?
 

kimguroo

Legend
I see someone on the Bay has already had a go at customising the flynits; was that you Kimguroo?
It's not me I have not seen the shoes yet and still thinking about how I will do.
Can you link or item number for the listing ?
 

tennisky

New User
Just got them. Definitely a different feel compared to traditional 9.5's. Certainly feels lighter, kind of a more lock down feel since the upper is stiffer, especially in toe box. Gonna have a go at these later this week. Feel like they might need a bit of break in since these are flyknits. The inner material definitely makes these feel tighter near the toebox and on the sides of the ball of the foot. Foot frame looks nice, gray see through. Actually have a bit of room to wear hyper elites. Wish these had pure white outsoles but the gray has a nice touch of dimension to it.
 

kimguroo

Legend
You can do better than this guy! :)

This person basically copies my idea of customization hahaha.
competition is good thing so I will try to make more efforts in order to be better and better ^_^
I saw his other Wimbledon shoes and he used vinyl sticker for "7" trophy and RF logo at fitframe but unfortunately It will not stick to vapor 9.5 shoes because of rough surface of vapor 9.5. Those images will fall off easily, if there are quick sudden movements. I used to do exactly like that but people wanted better solution so I started to paint.

I am also debating that whether I will use heat transfer material or painting for skyline image.

It's good to see someone uses my methods and I learned from this person's customization too.
I have slightly more idea now. Hope it will turn out well ^_^
 
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pobbles

Guest
This person basically copies my idea of customization hahaha.
competition is good thing so I will try to make more efforts in order to be better and better ^_^
I saw his other Wimbledon shoes and he used vinyl sticker for "7" trophy and RF logo at fitframe but unfortunately It will not stick to vapor 9.5 shoes because of rough surface of vapor 9.5. Those images will fall off easily, if there are quick sudden movements. I used to do exactly like that but people wanted better solution so I started to paint.

I am also debating that whether I will use heat transfer material or painting for skyline image.

It's good to see someone uses my methods and I learned from this person's customization too.
I have slightly more idea now. Hope it will turn out well ^_^

Yes that's mine haha! And yes I got the idea from kimguroo, a guy on another Nike forum and a guy on instagram, who runs a business customising - as they look so good!

As the shoes are brand new that was more of an experiment and as you agree, looks ****. Yes i originally stuck the black 7 trophy on, much better. My printer made the skyline as a joke so I thought I'd try it. I can't see paint working, surface is too rough, love to see it tho.
I have changed the shoes above. Tongue requires much bigger white panel, Nike court stitching shoes thru easily so may require a couple of layers.
About to attach a black skyline. It needs to be neater, bigger and have a shiny surface. To be honest I'm not sure you will ever be able to make 'the shard' etc look good. Nike have so many processes/methods/materials for that. I did hear they use a hot clamp with bonding ink?

Vapor 9/9.5 is much easier. I don't use vinyls stickers, it's heat vinyl transfer which is extremely difficult to remove when done correctly and certainly will never drop off, any clothing print is done this way and lasts ages, wash after wash. I do use a special technique, exact temperatures and very high quality materials, glue etc. Heat vinyl sticks well to this type of FlyKnit and will not come off heel as little movement happens to the material on the corner of shoe. The way I do it, its actually better on a slighty rough surface of 9.5, rather than the smooth surface of the 9s. You can also be very neat, precise as apposed to paint. For the footframe I now use stencils and permanent ink, never comes off. I use mine for tennis/gym, no issues. I've sold 30-35 pairs and never had a single complaint.


I usually purchase 2 pairs, one for me and one for sale. No more. Just good fun : )
Until my wife asks me 'Why am I trying to put London Bridge on a pair of trainers???'
She has a point : )

But can't wait to see Kimguroos.....
 
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kimguroo

Legend
Yes that's mine haha! And yes I got the idea from kimguroo, a guy on another Nike forum and a guy on instagram, who runs a business customising - as they look so good!

As the shoes are brand new that was more of an experiment and as you agree, looks ****. They did sell tho! Yes i originally stuck the black 7 trophy on, much better. My printer made the skyline as a joke so I thought I'd try it. Paint wouldn't work, surface is too rough. Vapor 9/9.5 is much easier. I don't use vinyls stickers, it's heat vinyl transfer which is extremely difficult to remove when done correctly and certainly will never drop off, any clothing print is done this way and lasts ages?! I do use a special technique, exact temperatures and very high quality materials. Heat vinyl sticks well to this type of FlyKnit and will not come off heel as little movement happens to the material on the corner of shoe. The way I do it, its actually better on a slighty rough surface of 9.5, rather than the smooth surface of the 9s. You can also be very neat, precise as apposed to paint. For the footframe I now use stencils and permanent ink, never comes off. I use mine for tennis/gym, no issues. I've sold 30-35 pairs and never had a single complaint.

I have changed the shoes above. Tongue requires much bigger white panel, Nike court stitching shoes thru easily so may require a couple of layers.
About to attach a black skyline. It needs to be neater, bigger and have a shiny surface. To be honest I'm not sure you will ever be able to make 'the shard' etc look good. Nike have so many processes/methods/materials for that. I did hear they use a hot clamp with bonding ink?

I usually purchase 2 pairs, one for me and one for sale. No more. Just good fun : )
Until my wife asks me 'Why am I trying to put London Bridge on a pair of trainers???'
She has a point : )
Nice try and good to know about your methods.
I was thinking of a few possibilities for skyline. First one is heat transfer and second is painting and third one is cutting rubbery material then using glue gun to attach it. Still prefer painting since I have flyknit running shoes and swoosh was painted. I might test with the shoes before I start vapor. Hopefully it will turn out well ^_^
Thanks for another skyline image. I think I understand 70% of skyline Image.
 
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pobbles

Guest
Nice try and good to know about your methods.
I was thinking of a few possibilities for skyline. First one is heat transfer and second is painting and third one is cutting rubbery material then using glue gun to attach it. Still prefer painting since I have flyknit running shoes and swoosh was painted. I might test with the shoes before I start vapor. Hopefully it will turn out well ^_^
Thanks for another skyline image. I think I understand 70% of skyline Image.
Wow, I never thought of rubber! It looks a bit like rubber. How would you cut it?
Glue gun can be very useful ; ) These Flyknits are not really like any other in the fact they hardly flex.

Its ridiculous! Why didn't they use trophy? L-R Its the 'Shard' 'Tower Bridge' and the 'Gherkin'
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Nice try and good to know about your methods.
I was thinking of a few possibilities for skyline. First one is heat transfer and second is painting and third one is cutting rubbery material then using glue gun to attach it. Still prefer painting since I have flyknit running shoes and swoosh was painted. I might test with the shoes before I start vapor. Hopefully it will turn out well ^_^
Thanks for another skyline image. I think I understand 70% of skyline Image.
Sounds like a good strategy.

Have you ever used paint (or ink) on a shirt to replace a swoosh? Or would it come out after washing? I have a vintage Fed shirt that lost its swoosh - the surface isn't smooth - heat transfer didn't take.
 

kimguroo

Legend
Wow, I never thought of rubber! It looks a bit like rubber. How would you cut it?
Glue gun can be very useful ; ) These Flyknits are not really like any other in the fact they hardly flex.

Its ridiculous! Why didn't they use trophy? L-R Its the 'Shard' 'Tower Bridge' and the 'Gherkin'
Probably Nike did not want to end up like US open shoes.
Horrible USTA tried to file a law suit against Nike because of trophy image. I don't think there was any other tennis organizations doing anything like that. That image implies US open trophy but not exactly same detail US open trophy so Nike can do whatever they want to do.

Regarding on the material, I might also consider fabric or thin leather or faux leather because it can be found easily at local fabric stores.
 

kimguroo

Legend
Sounds like a good strategy.

Have you ever used paint (or ink) on a shirt to replace a swoosh? Or would it come out after washing? I have a vintage Fed shirt that lost its swoosh - the surface isn't smooth - heat transfer didn't take.
I use always use water based paint so I can't paint.
Only possibility will be screen printing but I don't know how to do it right. I still think that heat transfer material will be the best and easy solution. With heat press machine, I think it can be done.
 

kimguroo

Legend
From the Raonic match:
I watched ESPN3 and saw this image. I did not capture the image and I forgot where it was so I had to watch from second set and finally captured the image. Now I have all ideas of skyline and time to do graphic works.
 
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pobbles

Guest
I've just added the black skyline and it looks much better. Mine is matt black which matches the swoosh perfectly.

I don't know how to post pics, but you can see on 'the bay'
 
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BLACKOUT

Rookie
I'm never buying Flyknit as tennis shoes. The material they use now rips very easily and quickly get holes in the side of the shoes with the mildest side toe dragging. The flyknit won't stand a chance on hard court....kiss that $200 goodbye.
Lol. Hence why there are several options depending on how hard you are on your footwear. I am concerned about the stability of the shoe though
 
Lol. Hence why there are several options depending on how hard you are on your footwear. I am concerned about the stability of the shoe though
Yes the other options are a real tennis shoe like the Asics Gel Speed 3. The Flyknit are a nice looking shoe to wear casually but certainly not for playing tennis. Just saying its your money.
 

Noveson

Hall of Fame
Lol. Hence why there are several options depending on how hard you are on your footwear. I am concerned about the stability of the shoe though
Flyknit shoes have never had a problem with stability. Kobe's are my basketball shoe of choice, and you need stability just as much on a basketball court as you do in tennis.

Yes the other options are a real tennis shoe like the Asics Gel Speed 3. The Flyknit are a nice looking shoe to wear casually but certainly not for playing tennis. Just saying its your money.
Do you have a pair? Or any experience with flyknits other than the racers? I have a pair, I'm a toe dragger so what I'm normally most scared about is the inside of the ball of my foot ripping. Of course the soles are going to wear out in 6 months or whatever, but ripping the upper is what scares me on shoes. So far I have no signs of wear on the flyknit upper, but they are still Vapors, so the outsole isn't going to last you a very long time.
 
Flyknit Vapors? Those shoes will probably last you one, maybe two matches if you slide and move aggressively like Fed, Novak, and co. :/

They look great, nonetheless. Probably not going to be your shoe of choice unless you have a sponsorship.
 
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