New Phantom Pro (18x20) (320)

Dartagnan64

Legend
The 100 18x20 feels more similar to the 93p than the other Phantom 100s. It’s got a bit more forgiveness and oomph than the 93p. But it’s not quite as crisp. Bit more soft. But great control, great feel and a net game wonder.

Agree with review that it shines at the net, needs a bit more free power for baseline pace. I purchased it today and will be working with string setups to get the power levels right but it’s a great doubles stick.
 

PhxRacket

Professional
The 100 18x20 feels more similar to the 93p than the other Phantom 100s. It’s got a bit more forgiveness and oomph than the 93p. But it’s not quite as crisp. Bit more soft. But great control, great feel and a net game wonder.

Agree with review that it shines at the net, needs a bit more free power for baseline pace. I purchased it today and will be working with string setups to get the power levels right but it’s a great doubles stick.
Let us know how it goes.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Let us know how it goes.
Played one match with syn gut at 52lbs. Will be swapping it out when I get home to gut/ghostwire hybrid.

Played quite well again with great net play, not quite as wicked FHs as my 93p. Really easy on the arm though. I’m pretty sure I can make this thing really shine with some string changes.
 
Let us know how it goes.
That is exciting news. I love the 93P, but my net game is just awful with it. And I seem to do worse in doubles with it too. Probably because the low power doesn’t let me get away with just stabbing at the ball.

The other Pro100 gelled better with my doubles game, but I suspected the 18 x 20 might be the ideal compromise between all of them.

Hopefully I can demo it tomorrow.


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Let us know how it goes.
That is exciting news. I love the 93P, but my net game is just awful with it. And I seem to do worse in doubles with it too. Probably because the low power doesn’t let me get away with just stabbing at the ball.

The other Pro100 gelled better with my doubles game, but I suspected the 18 x 20 might be the ideal compromise between all of them.

Hopefully I can demo it tomorrow at IW!


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2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
The 100 18x20 feels more similar to the 93p than the other Phantom 100s. It’s got a bit more forgiveness and oomph than the 93p. But it’s not quite as crisp. Bit more soft. But great control, great feel and a net game wonder.

Agree with review that it shines at the net, needs a bit more free power for baseline pace. I purchased it today and will be working with string setups to get the power levels right but it’s a great doubles stick.
The 93p is a 61 RA, and if the pro 18x20 had been the same, I think that would help with the serve/BH issues.

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Hansen

Semi-Pro
Sounds like the TW playtesters had mixed reviews about this racquet. Michelle hits a big ball and I noticed how much slower her 2hbh was with this racquet. I also struggled generating pace with my 2hbh with this racquet as well so looks like it's not just me.
don´t know which strings you used but the playtesters used a stiff poly at 52lbs, which makes not much sense in my view. a thin softer poly would have been more suitable. at least they didn´t use 4g :rolleyes:
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
Played one match with syn gut at 52lbs. Will be swapping it out when I get home to gut/ghostwire hybrid.

Played quite well again with great net play, not quite as wicked FHs as my 93p. Really easy on the arm though. I’m pretty sure I can make this thing really shine with some string changes.
Let us know what you come up with. My 93P is strung 48/46 with Volkl VTorque Tour (shaped poly) in the mains and Head Velocity in the crosses. I was thinking of trying the same setup at +2 pounds, to account for the larger head, in the 100. But I could leave the tension the same or go to an all-multi setup to get more power.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
don´t know which strings you used but the playtesters used a stiff poly at 52lbs, which makes not much sense in my view. a thin softer poly would have been more suitable. at least they didn´t use 4g :rolleyes:
Agree, this thing cries out for more mid to high 40’s with full poly. I’m using syn gut at 52lbs and it’s about the right power level.
 

RedBeard

Rookie
don´t know which strings you used but the playtesters used a stiff poly at 52lbs, which makes not much sense in my view. a thin softer poly would have been more suitable. at least they didn´t use 4g :rolleyes:
Still loving my gut/poly hybrid at 45lbs. Have all the control I need plus it does add more power & forgiveness to the upper hoop, especially on serves.
 
Got to “playtest” it at Indian Wells, along with the 93P 14 x 18, and the new Tour 95.

It was fun, but I couldn’t tell much, as they were all strung so high, and the test consisted of about 12 strokes from a ball machine. so I will have to do a proper demo.

I did however get an accidental hole in one, after Troy explicitly told us not to aim at the ball machine. Oops, sorry!

And yes, my friend got it on video. I posted it to Instagram, but I don’t think I can upload that here.


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time_fly

Hall of Fame
I just got mine last night and started working on the stringing. Sadly this is one of those frames that seems to really need 21' of string for the mains, so no splitting two 40' packs into two identical hybrid string jobs with this one. :-( I also tried putting Monogut ZX Pro in it, but the string broke during a pull ... not sure why, but Monogut is REALLY sensitive to any sort of kinking or clamp damage. Not the frame's fault of course (unless there is a sharp grommet).
 

1990's Graphite

Professional
Got to “playtest” it at Indian Wells, along with the 93P 14 x 18, and the new Tour 95.

It was fun, but I couldn’t tell much, as they were all strung so high, and the test consisted of about 12 strokes from a ball machine. so I will have to do a proper demo.

I did however get an accidental hole in one, after Troy explicitly told us not to aim at the ball machine. Oops, sorry!

And yes, my friend got it on video. I posted it to Instagram, but I don’t think I can upload that here.


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lol would love to see Troy tell people off... what's the IG ? maybe it can be uploaded
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Got to “playtest” it at Indian Wells, along with the 93P 14 x 18, and the new Tour 95.

It was fun, but I couldn’t tell much, as they were all strung so high, and the test consisted of about 12 strokes from a ball machine. so I will have to do a proper demo.

I did however get an accidental hole in one, after Troy explicitly told us not to aim at the ball machine. Oops, sorry!

And yes, my friend got it on video. I posted it to Instagram, but I don’t think I can upload that here.


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Yes the phantoms are pretty string sensitive rackets so it’s too bad they didn’t consider that in their demos. Especially after their reviews with prince vortex at 52 lbs came back as “low powered”.
Well then lower the tension next time, guys!
 
lol would love to see Troy tell people off... what's the IG ? maybe it can be uploaded
My IG is @charliebecker I think I could upload it if I post to YouTube.

They were polite, not mean about it. But I think I detected a little frustration. They were mostly taken aback by me calling to them like an old friend. “Troy!” “Boonie!” I had to follow up with, “sorry, you don’t know me, but thanks for all your advice over your channel.” I mean, sure I got to see Rafa and Fed practicing through the fence from like 5 feet away, but I was still pretty starstuck at the T dub booth.

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Played one match with syn gut at 52lbs. Will be swapping it out when I get home to gut/ghostwire hybrid.
Have you ever used the gut/Ghost Wire hybrid in another frame? That’s the exact hybrid I was planning to try next. Just bought a bunch of Tier One strings and I’m most excited to use Ghost Wire as a cross. I’ve tried it in the Firewire Boost hybrid and was impressed with it. Hope it performs as well with natural gut mains.
 
Haha, there it is!

Man, what a playtest. I don’t think I got a single ball in.

Go out there in your street clothes with an unfamiliar racquet 2 sizes too small, strung with poly at... I’m gonna guess 120 lbs, take 4 balls from a ball machine, then decide if you want to buy it.

Knowing my resistance is weak, I was scared heading out there that I was going to have to explain a new racquet to my wife, but luckily the playtest cooled my enthusiasm. Not enough dara to make any kind of decision, but fun anyway. Plus, it’s really time for me to get into strings rather than frames.

I was really hoping for a “test your serve speed” booth, but no dice. I’ll just have to go back to assuming my serve is I’ve 100mph. Ha!


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1990's Graphite

Professional
Haha, there it is!

Man, what a playtest. I don’t think I got a single ball in.

Go out there in your street clothes with an unfamiliar racquet 2 sizes too small, strung with poly at... I’m gonna guess 120 lbs, take 4 balls from a ball machine, then decide if you want to buy it.

Knowing my resistance is weak, I was scared heading out there that I was going to have to explain a new racquet to my wife, but luckily the playtest cooled my enthusiasm. Not enough dara to make any kind of decision, but fun anyway. Plus, it’s really time for me to get into strings rather than frames.

I was really hoping for a “test your serve speed” booth, but no dice. I’ll just have to go back to assuming my serve is I’ve 100mph. Ha!


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That's all part of the experience! Gotta love these playtests. The IW courts have got to be one of the best looking in the world. All looks fun!
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Have you ever used the gut/Ghost Wire hybrid in another frame? That’s the exact hybrid I was planning to try next. Just bought a bunch of Tier One strings and I’m most excited to use Ghost Wire as a cross. I’ve tried it in the Firewire Boost hybrid and was impressed with it. Hope it performs as well with natural gut mains.
nope I've got gut/cream in one 93P and gut/Proline II in another and both still play really well. Problem with testing strings in 18x20's is it takes a long time for them to break or die compared to my old 16x19 spin frames.
 
Look forward to hearing what you think. I’m also waiting on my strings to break. I use 15 gauge Tonic don’t also take as a while.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
Spent a dedicated amount of time playing with the 18x20 100 today after putting weight on it to match close to my 18x20 93P. For context, my demo batch consisted of the 14x18 93P, 18x20 100, and the older TT100P.

Also, my wife uses the ported Phantom 100. In my experience this is arguably the most arm friendly and baseline friendly racquet I've played with. In my opinion, the 18x20 100 is pretty much in that same category and provides a much more versatile offering than the ported Phantom 100.

The 18x20 Phantom 100 is really an intriguing racquet. In comparison, I actually felt like the TT100P was closer in feel to my 18x20 93P, in that they both felt stable and firm enough to feel like an extension of my arm. Whereas the ported 100 and 18x20 100 had that buttery soft feel where it feels like the ball melts into the stringbed but at the same time I still felt connected to the ball in my shots. Can't really explain it, but that's actually been my experience with all the Phantom racquets. All about what you prefer in feel!

Really started to like the 18x20 100 the more I played with it, and I felt like I could just hit groundstrokes for hours and hours, just like the ported Phantom 100, except it had the control of the 18x20 while still being very spin friendly. I think the Phantom 100 18x20 and TT100P basically boils down to how much flex you prefer, and if the thin beam really appeals to you. Both are very arm friendly and has an excellent blend of power, spin, and control.
 
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Kurt0707

New User
Thats really exciting.. playing with mainly TT100P now (although it does give me some arm pain due to the poly, which I really have to change) and also Phantom Pro 100 16x19 occassionally, buy receiving my 18x20 version this week. I have the feeling thats some nice combination of the two, and using such a heavy racquet will be interesting.

I would guess that at stock forms:
Control: PP100 18x20 >16x18 > TT100P
Power: TT100P > PP100 18x20 > 16x18
Stability: PP100P > TT100P, 16x18

would be curious on your and forums views on these and also how it played on serves, volleys, backhand and slices for you.. I have the feeling its a great one!
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Well I took out the 100 18x20 this am and played a set of singles on clay. Very interesting. While I wasn't getting power from the baseline as much as I do with the 93P, I was pretty filthy with touch shots. I hit some drop shots and drop volleys that were down right evil. My opponent gave me some very dirty looks, but it was so easy to do with this racket I kept pulling them out whenever I had a good opportunity.

Took it in after to get my usual gut/poly hybrid. We'll see how it performs with my more usual setup
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
Thats really exciting.. playing with mainly TT100P now (although it does give me some arm pain due to the poly, which I really have to change) and also Phantom Pro 100 16x19 occassionally, buy receiving my 18x20 version this week. I have the feeling thats some nice combination of the two, and using such a heavy racquet will be interesting.

I would guess that at stock forms:
Control: PP100 18x20 >16x18 > TT100P
Power: TT100P > PP100 18x20 > 16x18
Stability: PP100P > TT100P, 16x18

would be curious on your and forums views on these and also how it played on serves, volleys, backhand and slices for you.. I have the feeling its a great one!
Hmm I'm probably not the best person to say which racquet is better, but if you have been playing with the TT100P, my estimation is that the 18x20 Phantom 100 will play VERY similarly but feel significantly more plush. I think the fact that the TT100P plays a tad stiffer/crisper may give the illusion and feel of more pop, but the person I was hitting with said that he could not tell the difference in how the ball was coming in on the receiving end. And I think you hit the nail on the head, this racquet really bridges the good qualities of the TT100P and the 16x18 Phantom 100 and feels like a definite winner for me.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
Well I took out the 100 18x20 this am and played a set of singles on clay. Very interesting. While I wasn't getting power from the baseline as much as I do with the 93P, I was pretty filthy with touch shots. I hit some drop shots and drop volleys that were down right evil. My opponent gave me some very dirty looks, but it was so easy to do with this racket I kept pulling them out whenever I had a good opportunity.

Took it in after to get my usual gut/poly hybrid. We'll see how it performs with my more usual setup
I noticed for singles most of my point construction seemed to start with a more or less passive but easy depth to set up a short ball, which is a little bit different from how I play with the 93P but seemed effective either way, considering depth > pace arguably in most rec tennis matches.

The 2-handed backhand return on the ad side was probably my favorite shot from this racquet.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
I noticed for singles most of my point construction seemed to start with a more or less passive but easy depth to set up a short ball, which is a little bit different from how I play with the 93P but seemed effective either way, considering depth > pace arguably in most rec tennis matches.

The 2-handed backhand return on the ad side was probably my favorite shot from this racquet.
I think I liked my slice BH return from deuce side even more. :p In old man tennis its just plain rude.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
One last update for me - had my coaching session today before I have to send the demos back. My coach is a guy in his mid/late 20's and is a hardcore APD guy and pretty much has been stockpiling any decently priced and authentic looking 2013 APD's he can get on the bay and has no plans to stray from that racquet. When I had him try out the demos and with the 18x20 PP100 he said it was the weirdest experience holding the thin beam, but he still adjusted to it pretty well, and his touch shots and volleys were just a thing of beauty to watch, it was like he could turn an incoming ball into a feather. He actually preferred the TT100P, however, since that had the crisper response and thicker beam.

Phantoms definitely offer a distinct feel that is not for everyone and I could see how it might be a hard sell for people who learned and grew up with Babolats and tweeners and that's okay. Different strokes for different folks, but the flexy player frame folks now have a handful of great options :)
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
One last update for me - had my coaching session today before I have to send the demos back. My coach is a guy in his mid/late 20's and is a hardcore APD guy and pretty much has been stockpiling any decently priced and authentic looking 2013 APD's he can get on the bay and has no plans to stray from that racquet. When I had him try out the demos and with the 18x20 PP100 he said it was the weirdest experience holding the thin beam, but he still adjusted to it pretty well, and his touch shots and volleys were just a thing of beauty to watch, it was like he could turn an incoming ball into a feather. He actually preferred the TT100P, however, since that had the crisper response and thicker beam.

Phantoms definitely offer a distinct feel that is not for everyone and I could see how it might be a hard sell for people who learned and grew up with Babolats and tweeners and that's okay. Different strokes for different folks, but the flexy player frame folks now have a handful of great options :)
I definitely think the Phantoms resonate more with the guys that grew up with wood, aluminium, early graphite. That buttery feel is what tennis was all about back in the day. Now if it isn't harsh and tinny the cool kids don't want to touch it. They've been brain-washed by Babolat.

Young juniors gravitate to Babolats because of the easy power before their bodies have developed sufficient strength to get power on their own. Then they get used to that feel and struggle to leave it as the balls get heavier and heavier. So they add weight and if good enough get pro stocks with lower stiffness and power levels and in the end they are playing something very different than what they started with and a lot closer to a players frame like the Phantom.

Babolat is the tobacco company of tennis. Get the kids hooked and you've got them for life. Or at least until their elbows explode.
 

B Cubed

Semi-Pro
My Quick Review:

Reader's Notes: Session was (good) ball machine, bad balls, and me tired as eff after an 80 hr week first thing on a Sunday Morning. Ball machine was used for groundies and volleys. Serves were also practiced. Rackets intertwined to baseline: Demo Head 360 Speed Pro, and my Prince PP100P.

Serves: Was overall impressed. Being slightly more headlight, the head sailed through the swing and it was easy for power. Surprisingly good spin and cut on the serve, especially slice serves. If one could handle the weight (which I didn't notice, nor have the time to really) serving is fun.

Groundies: Like they say, the pin-point nature is really good. I hit relatively flat with a low trajectory in general, and these were definitely some flat shots. Decent off of both wings. Sweet spot seemed generous enough. It rewarded good strokes with power, but nothing to write home about - similar to the phantom line. In fact, I would say the weight balance was a bigger differentiating factor (in my mind) than the string pattern. Due to this, I didn't notice the extra weight. Side by side with my PP100P, which is close to 11.7 oz, the latter felt heavier due to swing weight.

Volleys: I can't say I really jelled here, but I don't think that was the racket at all, I was tired as eff, and I set the ball machine to a fast speed. happy when I connected, drop shots were good; the mass in contact was good.

Overall: My thoughts are decent/good, not blown away. But I'd like to demo in a match again, and it was good enough that, if I went to a different racket, I'd both probably stay in the Phantom line, and I'd probably go between this and the regular Phantom 100.

Areas not addressed: Lobs, and returns. I spent the most of my time between groundies and serves. Volley's were less. However, if I played a match (which I would have preferred) I'd feel just fine with it at net. In an ideal world, I'd prefer my grip set up (have some personal special sauce), and I'd love to get a 17 gauge multi in it, Prince Premier Control, Head Vel. or Technifiber multifeel. As alluded to above the weight didn't bother me; I had a go to Prince Tour 100 18x20 back in the day that was on the heavy side as well. I appreciated the flex but didn't feel it was noodle-ish. I think the strings were a little tight, and the pattern also makes it feel a little firm on contact.

By big however is this, although in an ideal world, I probably still lean towards a tighter string pattern, I really like my PP100P. To me, of the Phantoms at 100 size, it still stands out to me with noticeable additional controllable power. And although a slightly open pattern it's easy to hit flat, and with spin on the PP100P. Going between the two I preferred mine (granted it has my grip, and a string set up I like.)

I plan to re-demo. I want a better experience. At the end of the day, it's still good - Of course, it's a phantom.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Volleys: I can't say I really jelled here, but I don't think that was the racket at all, I was tired as eff, and I set the ball machine to a fast speed. happy when I connected, drop shots were good; the mass in contact was good.
That surprises me since that was the deciding factor with purchasing the racket for me. The volleys were just so amazing. The HL balance makes it more maneuverable than the 16x18 Phantoms and the tighter string bed produces amazing control. The 100 sq in hoop also adds forgiveness over the 93P.

Maybe you'll find it better in a match with volleys.
 

recsoares

Rookie
Can anyone compare this new Phantom 18x20 to the 2015 model of Prince TT100P?
I love my frame,but sometime I would like a little more “mass” and HL,specially for volleys.
Thanks!


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RedBeard

Rookie
Can anyone compare this new Phantom 18x20 to the 2015 model of Prince TT100P?
I love my frame,but sometime I would like a little more “mass” and HL,specially for volleys.
Thanks!


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For me, the PP100 18x20 is superior on comfort, volleys, touch and feel, returns, overall topspin, and forehand.
The TT100 superior on Power, 2HBH, Slice BH, Serves.
 

recsoares

Rookie
For me, the PP100 18x20 is superior on comfort, volleys, touch and feel, returns, overall topspin, and forehand.
The TT100 superior on Power, 2HBH, Slice BH, Serves.
Thanks!
I really must demo it!
However,I like the TT100p just for those reason you have mentioned,specially on serves and OBH and slices...
But being mostly a net player,I found major TT weaknesses in this chapter...


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tomato123

Semi-Pro
Can anyone compare this new Phantom 18x20 to the 2015 model of Prince TT100P?
I love my frame,but sometime I would like a little more “mass” and HL,specially for volleys.
Thanks!


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In terms of performance, both racquets were very similar when I tried them. But there was a big difference in feel due to the differences in flex and beam size. The person I was hitting with said the ball coming to them did not seem different when I hit to them with both racquets. But the TT100P gave me the impression of having more power because of the crisper response while the Phantom was super plush, but outside of the feel department my impression is that they are very much similar in performance.

Have you considered adding any weight under the buttcap of your TT100P to get that "mass" or increased stable feel and achieve your desired HL balance?
 

recsoares

Rookie
In terms of performance, both racquets were very similar when I tried them. But there was a big difference in feel due to the differences in flex and beam size. The person I was hitting with said the ball coming to them did not seem different when I hit to them with both racquets. But the TT100P gave me the impression of having more power because of the crisper response while the Phantom was super plush, but outside of the feel department my impression is that they are very much similar in performance.

Have you considered adding any weight under the buttcap of your TT100P to get that "mass" or increased stable feel and achieve your desired HL balance?
Thanks for the feedback.
I’ve already add a leather grip and it improved a lot


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AA7

Semi-Pro
Thanks for the feedback.
I’ve already add a leather grip and it improved a lot


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This is not a comparison with TT100P 2015 but it's 2019 version compared to Phantom 18x20 by Troy

Yes, you are spot-on in that comparison of the two. I prefer the new 2019 version of the Textreme Tour 100P, more than the previous iteration, having a bit more pop, and feels a bit more solid on the volleys. The Phantom Pro 100 18x20 is ultra comfortable, and has really good control. That being said, I have been gravitating toward slightly more modern (firmer) feeling racquets lately, and I have a slight preference for the Textreme Tour 100P (2019). The added power is a nice benefit, and I don't find the control to be sacrificed, all that much.
Troy, TW
 

B Cubed

Semi-Pro
That surprises me since that was the deciding factor with purchasing the racket for me. The volleys were just so amazing. The HL balance makes it more maneuverable than the 16x18 Phantoms and the tighter string bed produces amazing control. The 100 sq in hoop also adds forgiveness over the 93P.

Maybe you'll find it better in a match with volleys.
I definitely want to play it again, I think the volleys were the user not the racket.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Went out to play my weekly 4.0 men’s dubs group. Had the 100 18x20 strung up with gut/ghostwire at 52/45. Interesting time. Noticed less power on serve and groundies compared to the 93p but same excellent control. And all the buttery comfort of my ported 100. But it was the net play that made this thing stand our. I was godly at the net with touch, Drive and even lob volleys.

So now I’m in a dilemma. I’d like to add some weight to the 12 o clock position for a bit more SW but I don’t want to lose that delicious HL balance that makes it a forecourt monster.

BTW ghostwire is a really nice cross string. Lively but grabs the ball and pockets nicely and very plush. Got great spin all night.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
similar to cream ? differences ? which gauge of ghostwire ?
1.10 Ghostwire (19g). Very similar to cream as far as plushness goes but because it comes in a thinner gauge it gets a bit more bite and spin. We'll see about tensions maintenance and durability but right now its a hit. But just like Cream you need to string it a bit higher tension than a more muted poly.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
I received my PP100 18x20 the other day and strung it up with Volkl V-Torque Tour 18 in the mains at 50 and Monogut ZX at 48 in the crosses. My preference is racquets that are 7-9pt HL and this one is even more than that, so I did add about 2.5g of lead at 12. I've had the chance to play it three times now in very different circumstances. Once was hitting on the ball machine. Once was in a singles match against a big, strong 4.0 guy who is very aggressive and streaky, going for winners early in almost every rally. Finally, I subbed into a singles clinic tonight with weaker players, primarily strong 3.0 and weak 3.5.

Basic hitting on the ball machine revealed that the racquet is plush and forgiving, and like other recent Princes has easier access to spin than expected from an 18x20. The low power, feel, and spin made it easy to roll over sharp angles and keep the ball safely inside the lines, or to hit out on the ball and trust that it would still dip inside the baseline. I felt more connected to the ball than I did with my old ported Phantom 100, and it felt more stable to me on flatter swings. However, it was still down on power compared to my Beast 98, most noticeable when I attempted flatter drives. The flex and feel made slices and touch shots relatively easy to execute. At the net, the frame is maneuverable and has excellent feel and touch. It has the stability and predictability to stick solid volleys and the feel necessary for finesse volleys. Serves appeared to be down on power, but I also have a sore shoulder right now so it is hard to judge. But there was ample access to spin and targeting was precise.

When I played the match against the heavy hitter, I noticed that it was hard to turn defense into offense with the lower-powered response. The stability was still good against his pace however, and returns of serve were good due to the maneuverable balance, stability, and predictable response. I'm sure I didn't lose because of the racquet, but I did notice that it was harder for me to "go for it" and play higher-risk tennis to try to keep him from attacking the ball as easily. On the flip side when I played against weaker players the racquet was a boon, as I could set up points creatively and avoid errors and over-hitting. We played "king of the court" and I was able to hold the king position for a long time, whereas with a more powerful racquet I probably would have made more careless errors.

Overall, I found this racquet fun to play with and easy on the arm. Like the Phantom Pro 93P is rewards players who want to dictate points rather than play defense, but at the same time it works better when trying to set up strategic points and finish with a short ball or a volley rather than blow an opponent off the court with one big swing from the baseline. In addition to comparing it to other Prince sticks like the the TT 100P, I would also compare it to the Dunlop Srixon CX line. Those racquets are a little firmer than the Phantom but also prioritize feel and control over power. I think if you generally like the Phantom series but want more options in the 95-98" range, I would look at Dunlop.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
PS. With tungsten tape at the tip, my PP 100 18x20 weighs 346g strung with OG and small dampener. Interestingly, this is within about 1g of my PP 93P 18x20, which is probably a little under-weight. With the thin beams and head light balance, both racquets swing more easily than I would expect from the weight.
 
But it was the net play that made this thing stand our. I was godly at the net with touch, Drive and even lob volleys.
I’m glad to know that it wasn’t just in my head that the Pro 100 excels at the net, and at doubles.

I don’t regret selling my 16 x 18 Pro 100, but as “doubles-y” as that stick was for me, hearing that the 18 x 20 is even more so gets my palms sweaty.

With advice from one of these threads (I’m in so many I get confused) I was able to change the characteristics of my 93P 18 x 20 by lowering the tension and lowering the crosses even more. Wow! I can volley again, and yep, launch angle is definitely higher (maybe too much) Now I’m really interested in exploring strings & stringing options.

So until I send for the PPP100 demo next week, I’m curious how to tweak my PPP100P to make it play more like that. With a shrink sleeve and a leather grip, it’s already 12.5 + oz, First step - reduce launch angle by increased tension differential in the crosses by 2 lbs?

But string choice? If it’s a Gut/poly hybrid, the mains would normally be ~5 lbs higher to start. Would increasing the crosses by 2 to a -3 differential decrease launch angle, or do the crosses have to be higher than the mains even with 2 different types of strings?

Am I making sense? Does Going from 50/45 to 50/47 work, or would it have to be 50/52?


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