NEW Prestige MP 360

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I feel like we're talking semantics here.

If you're talking about the actual racket, and Head themselves are talking about the Prestige name, brand etc...
It’s not semantics. Henri Leconte was swinging the brown Prestige Pro for 1986 in full cosmetic. There is also another Prestige branded racquet called the Prestige Graphite Midplus that also came out in 1986. This one used the OG Graphite Pro mold
 
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etd

Rookie
My friend has been using the IG Prestige Mid since its introduction. He strings it with a full bed of Wilson NXT, although he has experimented with a Wilson NXT Main / Luxilon Alu Power Cross hybrid.

He went to try the new Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid at our local tennis store which has a hitting lane. The racquet was strung up with Head Hawk Touch. He liked the new Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid. He said the feel of the Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid was good, but it did play more head heavy than his IG Prestige Mid. He hopes to demo it more thoroughly with a multifilament string.

He really hated all the Prestige Mids that came out after the IG Prestige Mid, so to hear him say that he liked the new Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid was a pleasant surprise. He's not looking to replace his IG Prestige Mid yet, but it's good to know that this Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid is an option for him if he does need to replace it. So perhaps there is hope.
 
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dawwe

New User
I just read/watched the review of the new Prestige 360+. Seems like a decent stick, but to be honest I believe that that Touch model has better looking graphics/design. I also noticed that there are quite a few people saying that the Prestige has "lost its identity" since the introduction of Graphene technology? I dont know. Compared to my old MicroGel Radical MP my Prestige Touch MP is way more "better". Yes it is a slightly stiffer frame, it has plenty of power if you swing big and more than enough control for those shorter stop balls. It would be interesting to "black out" 3 generations of the Prestige MP (lets say 360+, Touch and IG) and make a playtest. Im not sure I would be able to tell the difference if all racquets would be stringed the way I prefer, and even if I would be able would I be able to pin out which one is the Touch model :D? I honestly think if I did it would be at least 50% luck :D
 

dr325i

Legend
My friend has been using the IG Prestige Mid since its introduction. He strings it with a full bed of Wilson NXT, although he has experimented with a Wilson NXT Main / Luxilon Alu Power Cross hybrid.

He went to try the new Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid at our local tennis store which has a hitting lane. The racquet was strung up with Head Hawk Touch. He liked the new Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid. He said the feel of the Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid was good, but it did play more head heavy than his IG Prestige Mid. He hopes to demo it more thoroughly with a multifilament string.

He really hated all the Prestige Mids that came out after the IG Prestige Mid, so to hear him say that he liked the new Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid was a pleasant surprise. He's not looking to replace his IG Prestige Mid yet, but it's good to know that this Graphene 360+ Prestige Mid is an option for him if he does need to replace it. So perhaps there is hope.
And when the honeymoon phase wears out...there will be another Gravity situation....
The buzzz died out
 

4sound

Semi-Pro
The thing I always liked about Prestige MP 18x20 is; when hit the ball right, you feel the truth in your stroke.
It is demanding though & doesn't let you get away with much if you get sloppy.
It's a racket that keeps you honest about your stroke mechanics.

I haven't been on here for a long time but been watching periodically as the new Prestige versions release.
I've played with Head pretty much back to the 80's. I play (& mostly teach) with:
IG MP and old Head rackets (iPrestige MP (57e), pro stock PT57a, TGK 237.2 (mid 16x19) & Prestige MidPlus (102cm 18x19)

I often try the new rackets my students have (for a minute) to get an idea of how the ball comes off.
It sometimes helps me with my students if I somewhat feel what they feel.
I really haven't seen a reason to buy anything new since the IG MP. The new ones since feel overall stiffer different to me.

I don't read too much into "new tech" of the new releases that come out every other year.
IMO it really just comes down to how it feels when you strike the ball.

I do seem to like the older thinner beam prestiges so I'm interested to try the new MP in 20mm.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
The thing I always liked about Prestige MP 18x20 is; when hit the ball right, you feel the truth in your stroke.
It is demanding though & doesn't let you get away with much if you get sloppy.
It's a racket that keeps you honest about your stroke mechanics.

I haven't been on here for a long time but been watching periodically as the new Prestige versions release.
I've played with Head pretty much back to the 80's. I play (& mostly teach) with:
IG MP and old Head rackets (iPrestige MP (57e), pro stock PT57a, TGK 237.2 (mid 16x19) & Prestige MidPlus (102cm 18x19)

I often try the new rackets my students have (for a minute) to get an idea of how the ball comes off.
It sometimes helps me with my students if I somewhat feel what they feel.
I really haven't seen a reason to buy anything new since the IG MP. The new ones since feel overall stiffer different to me.

I don't read too much into "new tech" of the new releases that come out every other year.
IMO it really just comes down to how it feels when you strike the ball.

I do seem to like the older thinner beam prestiges so I'm interested to try the new MP in 20mm.
The old i.prestige mp with gut/poly 57/55 was simply magic!

That has been my dream for every prestige since then. The IG was decent but didn't hit as solid a ball. The first G mp hit a heavier ball but was buzzy, somewhat disconnected feel.

Have to think Head can find the old magic again at some point.
 

4sound

Semi-Pro
The old i.prestige mp with gut/poly 57/55 was simply magic!

That has been my dream for every prestige since then. The IG was decent but didn't hit as solid a ball. The first G mp hit a heavier ball but was buzzy, somewhat disconnected feel.

Have to think Head can find the old magic again at some point.
I add weight to the IG MP to get it to have a bit more plow through. I like it for what it is & don't expect it to be the iPrestige MP.
For some reason the 2x Black 25th Anniversary IG MP feel better than the red ones I have.
(I have too many rackets & need to reduce)
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
The thing I always liked about Prestige MP 18x20 is; when hit the ball right, you feel the truth in your stroke.
It is demanding though & doesn't let you get away with much if you get sloppy.
It's a racket that keeps you honest about your stroke mechanics.

I haven't been on here for a long time but been watching periodically as the new Prestige versions release.
I've played with Head pretty much back to the 80's. I play (& mostly teach) with:
IG MP and old Head rackets (iPrestige MP (57e), pro stock PT57a, TGK 237.2 (mid 16x19) & Prestige MidPlus (102cm 18x19)

I often try the new rackets my students have (for a minute) to get an idea of how the ball comes off.
It sometimes helps me with my students if I somewhat feel what they feel.
I really haven't seen a reason to buy anything new since the IG MP. The new ones since feel overall stiffer different to me.

I don't read too much into "new tech" of the new releases that come out every other year.
IMO it really just comes down to how it feels when you strike the ball.

I do seem to like the older thinner beam prestiges so I'm interested to try the new MP in 20mm.
'...you feel the truth in your stroke.' I love that line! It articulates so beautifully why I've kept using 'players' racquets' long past my use by date!
 

XJ9

Rookie
Guys, want to know more about the headsize of head rackets.
Like for example, Prestige Pro has headsize of 95in2
Is that same as Wilson's 95? or its more like Wilson's97-98?
Thanks a lot.




 

dawwe

New User
1 sqi is approx 6.45 cm2 so the mid must have some data mixed up regarding the MID. 90 sqi is 580 cm2, and 600 cm2 is 93 sqi. Ist a shame that they made the MP bigger. I'm not switching to the new MP, thats for sure.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
The all Head gear was a turn off for me. If he’s sponsored, he aint gonna say anything but positive things about the racquet
Yeah, I know... I noticed that as well. I'm pretty sure the club and he are sponsored by Head. Just another viewpoint and opinion to consider when making your own decisions.

I wasn't positive or negative about the racquet... just passing on the review I saw on YouTube.
 

XJ9

Rookie
Guys, want to know more about the headsize of head rackets.
Like for example, Prestige Pro has headsize of 95in2
Is that same as Wilson's 95? or its more like Wilson's97-98?
Thanks a lot.




So is head's headsize same as Wilson's?
thanks
 

dawwe

New User
Head is measuring headsize from the inside of the frame nowdays, so the stated size should be the real size. I do not know how Wilson is measuring, but if its from the inside of the frame then a 95 Wilson is of same size as a 95 Head.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Head is measuring headsize from the inside of the frame nowdays, so the stated size should be the real size. I do not know how Wilson is measuring, but if its from the inside of the frame then a 95 Wilson is of same size as a 95 Head.
They always measured from the inside but just lied about it (or did some very general "rounding")

The classic oval 95" hoop was always about 94.7.
 

dawwe

New User
Well...My Microgel Radical is a stated 98 (630 cm2) as is my Prestige GrapheneXT. If put these frames on top of my 95 (615 cm2) Prestige Touch the head sizes are identical... Head started to measure framesize from the inside beginning with the Touch (when it comes to Prestige, how it is with other Head rackets I have no idea).

And if we think about it, the actual and correct way to measure headsize should be from the outside of the frame, I mean you might hit the ball with the frame but it can still land inside the court-lines... So in my case framesize should be 98, stringbed size 95.
 
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2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Well...My Microgel Radical is a stated 98 (630 cm2) as is my Prestige GrapheneXT. If put these frames on top of my 95 (615 cm2) Prestige Touch the head sizes are identical... Head started to measure framesize from the inside beginning with the Touch (when it comes to Prestige, how it is with other Head rackets I have no idea).

And if we think about it, the actual and correct way to measure headsize should be from the outside of the frame, I mean you might hit the ball with the frame but it can still land inside the court-lines... So in my case framesize should be 98, stringbed size 95.
Radicals have a more teardrop shape, so it's not an apples 2 apples comparison to prestige even if you put them on top of each other (which is a distorted frame of reference, anyway)

And despite your somewhat logical analysis, the standard for headsize is always inside the frame, even for head and its "fuzzy" calculations!
 

dawwe

New User
Even Head themselves state that the Prestige Graphene XT (98!) uses the same mold as the Prestige Graphene Touch (95!). They do also share grommets... If there is a difference in headsize/headshape between the MicroGel Radical MP and the mentioned Prestiges then its very very slight and not noticeable for the naked eye at a quick look. But the molds are different that is correct (can be seen in the bridge area...)
 

dawwe

New User
There must be something wrong with the specs for the mid...90 sqi is not 600 cm2. 90 sqi is 580 cm2, and 600 cm2 is 93 sqi. Get the facts right Head :D.

Edit: Head.com states 600 cm2 and 93 sqi. Mystery solved :D
 

Keizer

Professional
Head website says Cilic "recommends the Mid"? Interesting, I always thought he would endorse the MP or the Pro, but there's nothing to link those frames to him in their descriptions apart from a blanket comment about how he endorses the Prestige series.
 

Return_Ace

Professional
The Mp in action... looks like Asia gets in first



Saw this in the above video, thought it was quite neat with regards to how Head see their own line-up interacting with each other.

Very likely that it's not accurate, but maybe food for thought when considering which version you'd wish to demo (if any :unsure: ).

Ok, thanks. Following website also confirms the same: https://fourtylove.com/head-graphene-360-prestige-2020/

Preorder on 2nd Jan and sold on 16th.
Wonder if the shops will have models in already.

I want to combine a search for new Tennis Shoes with taking a look at the new Prestiges.
 

Rally

Semi-Pro
Guys, want to know more about the headsize of head rackets.
Like for example, Prestige Pro has headsize of 95in2
Is that same as Wilson's 95? or its more like Wilson's97-98?
Thanks a lot.




Why are all of these racquets featherweights? Aren't Prestiges supposed to be north of 340 grams?

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tribesmen

Professional
The modern mantra among brand agents is that recreational players should not play with rackets weighing (unstrung) more than 290-300gr. Anything more difficult is for advanced players.
 

Rally

Semi-Pro
The modern mantra among brand agents is that recreational players should not play with rackets weighing (unstrung) more than 290-300gr. Anything more difficult is for advanced players.
I understood that, but I didn't realize it bled into pedigree lines like the Prestige. Say what you want about the RF97, but Wilson didn't compromise on the weight. They could have just as easily sold the PS97 under the name RF97 and saved on the material and manufacturing costs, but instead they sold us the real thing. Even Yonex is selling the 330g VCORE Pro 97.

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Rally

Semi-Pro
These are unstrung weights. Common anywhere but US. :)
Still none of these frames are above 340 grams strung before customization. I'm assuming the mid and midplus come with stock leather grips. Weren't Prestiges of the past around 350 grams stock weight?

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Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Still none of these frames are above 340 grams strung before customization. I'm assuming the mid and midplus come with stock leather grips. Weren't Prestiges of the past around 350 grams stock weight?

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They used to be around 330g unstrung... so now you can just modify them a bit... not a big deal. I'm more interested in how the racquet feels when hitting, and from the reviews so far, it sounds positive.
 

Return_Ace

Professional
Why are all of these racquets featherweights? Aren't Prestiges supposed to be north of 340 grams?

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I took this snip from the TennisNerd review video:



Still none of these frames are above 340 grams strung before customization. I'm assuming the mid and midplus come with stock leather grips. Weren't Prestiges of the past around 350 grams stock weight?

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Don't think any of the rackets come with Leather Grips as standard now, so that'll bump the weight up a bit if you add one.

As for the low weights, it's probably a mix of people complaining about heavier rackets not being user-friendly, and leaving them more "platform-like" so people that want them heavier can customise themselves.
 

Rally

Semi-Pro
I took this snip from the TennisNerd review video:





Don't think any of the rackets come with Leather Grips as standard now, so that'll bump the weight up a bit if you add one.

As for the low weights, it's probably a mix of people complaining about heavier rackets not being user-friendly, and leaving them more "platform-like" so people that want them heavier can customise themselves.
That's good news. A leather grip, overgrip, and some lead art 12 should get the mid and MP to mod 12 ounces and 340 swing weight.

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Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
They used to be around 330g unstrung... so now you can just modify them a bit... not a big deal. I'm more interested in how the racquet feels when hitting, and from the reviews so far, it sounds positive.
I hit with the MP and it does actually feel really good. Unfortunately I don't care for 18 main patterns. Wish they offered 2 different versions since that's the good model out of the bunch.
 

haqq777

Legend
@Classic-TXP-IG MID and @Shaolin thanks for the feedback. So does very good and positive mean it feels similar as the famed Prestige feel of yore? Because plenty of good feeling racquets in the market right now (Gravity, V7 Blades, TF40 etc) and competition is def tough if Prestige is to make a phoenix like entrance.

Have you hit with any of the new Graphene 360 Prestiges yet, @vsbabolat? Would love your take. I remember you and I were also on last version of Prestige Mid playtest.

I unfortunately won't be able to try till racquet is released. Will be going the TW demo route since our local HEAD rep hasn't planned anything. I played recently with a former D1 player in Florida who won the Nationals back in early nineties using a Classic Prestige. He told me he didn't like the new mid or MP. Also said just because it is better than early Graphene versions doesn't mean much. Echoed annoyance same as what Shaolin said about no full CAP on mid too.

And then my good friend and local college head coach tried it a couple of weeks back at an event and said it felt "great" (but wasn't planning on switching) so thats positive I guess.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
@Classic-TXP-IG MID and @Shaolin thanks for the feedback. So does very good and positive mean it feels similar as the famed Prestige feel of yore? Because plenty of good feeling racquets in the market right now (Gravity, V7 Blades, TF40 etc) and competition is def tough if Prestige is to make a phoenix like entrance.

Have you hit with any of the new Graphene 360 Prestiges yet, @vsbabolat? Would love your take. I remember you and I were also on last version of Prestige Mid playtest.

I unfortunately won't be able to try till racquet is released. Will be going the TW demo route since our local HEAD rep hasn't planned anything. I played recently with a former D1 player in Florida who won the Nationals back in early nineties using a Classic Prestige. He told me he didn't like the new mid or MP. Also said just because it is better than early Graphene versions doesn't mean much. Echoed annoyance same as what Shaolin said about no full CAP on mid too.

And then my good friend and local college head coach tried it a couple of weeks back at an event and said it felt "great" (but wasn't planning on switching) so thats positive I guess.
I have only hit with the MP but it definitely has that classic Prestige feel. I liked it a lot more than any of the other iterations in the last decade. Flexible and low powered. You can definitely throw haymakers and keep the ball in. Looking forward to trying the mid and pro since I'm a 16/19 guy.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
@Classic-TXP-IG MID and @Shaolin thanks for the feedback. So does very good and positive mean it feels similar as the famed Prestige feel of yore? Because plenty of good feeling racquets in the market right now (Gravity, V7 Blades, TF40 etc) and competition is def tough if Prestige is to make a phoenix like entrance.

Have you hit with any of the new Graphene 360 Prestiges yet, @vsbabolat? Would love your take. I remember you and I were also on last version of Prestige Mid playtest.

I unfortunately won't be able to try till racquet is released. Will be going the TW demo route since our local HEAD rep hasn't planned anything. I played recently with a former D1 player in Florida who won the Nationals back in early nineties using a Classic Prestige. He told me he didn't like the new mid or MP. Also said just because it is better than early Graphene versions doesn't mean much. Echoed annoyance same as what Shaolin said about no full CAP on mid too.

And then my good friend and local college head coach tried it a couple of weeks back at an event and said it felt "great" (but wasn't planning on switching) so thats positive I guess.
Hi @haqq777, I have not had a hit with it personally. I'm just going off the reviews that are coming in. Tennisnerd said that the 360+ MP was better than the IG Prestige MP, which if true is a positive. He said that the pocketing feeling of the MP reminded him of the PT630, which is very high praise if true. The MP and Mid are also 320g unstrung, which means there is more room for customization. The Mid is a true 93" and has an open pattern, therefore, it may be easier to play with and closer to a 95", therefore, another option available and maybe more closely comparable with the Phantom Pro 93P (with customization, of course).

I'm not going to be rushing out to buy either version, I have plenty of old-school Head racquets, but will keep monitoring the reviews and opinions of people both here and in general. It might be a racquet to acquire in the future if what is being reported is true.
 

dawwe

New User
I agree. Wait and see how it sounds after a year. Still lots of praise? Or less? I play with Prestige Touch MP, before that I had (and still have) the Prestige MP GrapheneXT. Quite noticeable difference, the Touch is for sure softer more muted/filtered. Power wise I believe they are approx equal, I don't need power I rather create my own power. Some retailers did measure the stiffness of the Touch MP stating it is in the RA 62-63 region, which is slightly softer than the GrapheneXT. This would mean that the Graphene 360+ should be well below RA 60, perhaps 57-58? Sadly enough I had stopped playing when the (now) classic Prestiges hit the market way back in the 90's, does anyone know the approx RA of these old rackets?
 
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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
@Classic-TXP-IG MID and @Shaolin thanks for the feedback. So does very good and positive mean it feels similar as the famed Prestige feel of yore? Because plenty of good feeling racquets in the market right now (Gravity, V7 Blades, TF40 etc) and competition is def tough if Prestige is to make a phoenix like entrance.

Have you hit with any of the new Graphene 360 Prestiges yet, @vsbabolat? Would love your take. I remember you and I were also on last version of Prestige Mid playtest.

I unfortunately won't be able to try till racquet is released. Will be going the TW demo route since our local HEAD rep hasn't planned anything. I played recently with a former D1 player in Florida who won the Nationals back in early nineties using a Classic Prestige. He told me he didn't like the new mid or MP. Also said just because it is better than early Graphene versions doesn't mean much. Echoed annoyance same as what Shaolin said about no full CAP on mid too.

And then my good friend and local college head coach tried it a couple of weeks back at an event and said it felt "great" (but wasn't planning on switching) so thats positive I guess.
I haven’t hit with it but of course I’ll be demoing them when they are released. Saying these are good compared to the recent Graphene frames doesn’t mean much. I’m like you’re friend love my Prestige Classic and super annoyed the Mid doesn’t have full CAP grommets
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
I am actually somewhat interested in the Tour (A quasi players version of the 100" LM instinct MP with an 18/19)

I got to thinking that the grommets appear to be the same as last year. So black grommets would be available and fit for some new red rackets. I do not think it looks better like some people seem to think it would

 
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