NEW Prestige MP 360

All three of the online shopping sites, TW, TE, and ******* have the same specs of over 320SW so wonder where they got that.

I never tried a low SW of 310 with a static static close to 12oz so will give that a shot and see how to goes.
 

fjcamry

Semi-Pro
All three of the online shopping sites, TW, TE, and ******* have the same specs of over 320SW so wonder where they got that.

I never tried a low SW of 310 with a static static close to 12oz so will give that a shot and see how to goes.

It’s stable and well balanced at 7hl.


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Lozannois

Rookie
Hi guys,

Does anybody could tell me if the size of the handle/pallet fits biger or smaller than Wilson handles? In other words if I usually have 2 size handle + overgrip, should I stay with 2?

Thank you

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J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Hi guys,

Does anybody could tell me if the size of the handle/pallet fits biger or smaller than Wilson handles? In other words if I usually have 2 size handle + overgrip, should I stay with 2?

Thank you

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Yes, almost exact.

J
 

fjcamry

Semi-Pro
All three of the online shopping sites, TW, TE, and ******* have the same specs of over 320SW so wonder where they got that.

I never tried a low SW of 310 with a static static close to 12oz so will give that a shot and see how to goes.

Head either gave the wrong specs on their site or to tw . The specs on the frame for unstrung weight is correct 320gm. Also the balance is unstrung 31cm . The correct weight strung is 11.8oz or 0.5 oz more for the mp, the mid and pro are 0.6oz more strung. That’s due to the lower swing weight for the mp. Also the balance point of 32cm strung for mp or 7HL compared to 6HL for mid and 5HL for pro.

Also I don’t know about beams but the mp is 20mm hence it’s softer flex 59.

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Lozannois

Rookie
Yes, almost exact.

J
Thank you! :)

I see the specs are nearly exactly the same than the Yonex Vcore Pro HD. Anyone played both and could compare? I guess they play quite similar? Which one is the most stable and best plow through? What about power/control ratio and manoeuvrability?

Thank you

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J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Thank you! :)

I see the specs are nearly exactly the same than the Yonex Vcore Pro HD. Anyone played both and could compare? I guess they play quite similar? Which one is the most stable and best plow through? What about power/control ratio and manoeuvrability?

Thank you

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There is no comparison to a Yonex.

J
 

fjcamry

Semi-Pro
Thank you! :)

I see the specs are nearly exactly the same than the Yonex Vcore Pro HD. Anyone played both and could compare? I guess they play quite similar? Which one is the most stable and best plow through? What about power/control ratio and manoeuvrability?

Thank you

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I think it would come to the swing weight . I feel that the pros are using lighter swing weights and it would be the higher stability of the frame materials . Head has made a balanced weight distribution in their 360+ . Coming from the graphene speed pro 1st generation I can say the earlier frames were archaic with weight distribution being more polarized leaving the throat hollow.

whatever it’s worth lower swing weights feel more maneuverable for me . Playing stock weight is important for me on the frame and I don’t get caught with measuring weights as I trust the numbers given to me by people actually measuring the equipment.

The head prestige mp360+ is my first prestige but my 4th head frame coming from head elite pro 600 (88-93), head premier tour (99-06), graphene speed pro (2014-2019), prestige mp360+ (2020). I can’t see myself playing Yonex. I’ve even tried blade blx amplifeel 2014. And that’s from my playing partner playing Wilson rf97.


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dr325i

G.O.A.T.
I think it would come to the swing weight . I feel that the pros are using lighter swing weights and it would be the higher stability of the frame materials . Head has made a balanced weight distribution in their 360+ . Coming from the graphene speed pro 1st generation I can say the earlier frames were archaic with weight distribution being more polarized leaving the throat hollow.

whatever it’s worth lower swing weights feel more maneuverable for me . Playing stock weight is important for me on the frame and I don’t get caught with measuring weights as I trust the numbers given to me by people actually measuring the equipment.

The head prestige mp360+ is my first prestige but my 4th head frame coming from head elite pro 600 (88-93), head premier tour (99-06), graphene speed pro (2014-2019), prestige mp360+ (2020). I can’t see myself playing Yonex. I’ve even tried blade blx amplifeel 2014. And that’s from my playing partner playing Wilson rf97.


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All 360+ layups so far are super comfortable and nicely balanced.
Extreme is the next to come out and it should be no exception...
I could not click with the 97HD when I tested it for a week...
 

haqq777

Legend
All 360+ layups so far are super comfortable and nicely balanced.
Extreme is the next to come out and it should be no exception...
I could not click with the 97HD when I tested it for a week...
That 97HD was the most disappointing racquet that came out in recent times for me. Feels and plays nothing like how its specs suggest. I much prefer the Gravity, by a margin. I think regardless of what anyone says, for me, Gravity was the racquet of the year even with some good releases as competition. Still have the prototype PJ MP and the retail Pro. Having a hard time with the borrowed G360+ PMP though. Will have to try gut/poly. Not liking thin full bed polys so far.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
That 97HD was the most disappointing racquet that came out in recent times for me. Feels and plays nothing like how its specs suggest. I much prefer the Gravity, by a margin. I think regardless of what anyone says, for me, Gravity was the racquet of the year even with some good releases as competition. Still have the prototype PJ MP and the retail Pro. Having a hard time with the borrowed G360+ PMP though. Will have to try gut/poly. Not liking thin full bed polys so far.
I agree with you. The Gravity spec was right on for me and other than the head shape and different PJ on opposite sides, I absolutely loved the performance. It was a huge (positive) surprise for me...
I could not get a comfortable setup with the Prestige 360+ either, although did not spend enough time with it. However, the feel immediately brought back the memories of the Head hay days!
I did not care about the 97HD at all...
 

galapagos

Hall of Fame
played with gravity pro and prestige mp 360. nice sticks ! I would throw in dunlop cx 200 tour as well to the party (if somebody liked ig prestige in stock form he should start here). Haven't played with the blade v7 and pro tour 2.0 unfortunately :/
O! Have I just mentioned the best 18x20 frames of the 2018/2020 lifecycle ? ;)
 

fjcamry

Semi-Pro
I agree with you. The Gravity spec was right on for me and other than the head shape and different PJ on opposite sides, I absolutely loved the performance. It was a huge (positive) surprise for me...
I could not get a comfortable setup with the Prestige 360+ either, although did not spend enough time with it. However, the feel immediately brought back the memories of the Head hay days!
I did not care about the 97HD at all...

The prestige mp 360 plays best with poly syngut hybrid


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fjcamry

Semi-Pro
All three of the online shopping sites, TW, TE, and ******* have the same specs of over 320SW so wonder where they got that.

I never tried a low SW of 310 with a static static close to 12oz so will give that a shot and see how to goes.

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I measured the swing weight , the correct swing weight is 325 .




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smalahove

Hall of Fame
Ok, so without actual measurements this is perhaps not that informative, but my PT 2.0 swings much heavier than both the GPro and the leaded MP+. After playing the PT2.0 for a while, and then switching to the GPro, the GPro felt like a super light 300g MP type of frame :cool:

Right now, I'm pretty sure I'll be using the leaded MP+ in the clay season, as it is easier to use, and has a very nice feel to it.

The PT 2.0 is still the Mjølner (Thor's hammer) of the crop, but to get the most of it, you need to be swinging hard, Thor-style :-D It's so solid against hard pace, if you hit the sweet zone, it's intoxicating. Terms like plush and plush often get used to describe this feeling, but often the description fails to differentiate between different types of "plushness". The PT 2.0 reminds me of the IGPMP, in having a solid feel, that upon impact (against pace) has this "give" to it, that can be described as plush. Which is very different to f.inst. a soft frame that flexes like a noodle, but that can also be described as plush. The MP+ in the middle here, f.inst. whereas the EXO3 Tour 100s were noodles, but this not a simple linear axis though, ime.

That being said, my fav shot with it, has been my two handed backhand: that swing weight just drives through the ball, so even if my swing speed on the 2hbh is not the most impressive, the shots are deep and penetrating with nasty topspin.

The GPro otoh, has the softest and plushest of the bunch, but still it has something of that initial firmness/solidness of the PT 2.0, that the MP+ doesn't have. My fav frame would have been the layup/feel of the GPro in the MP+.
 

fjcamry

Semi-Pro
I measured it at SW of 308 with strings not unstrung though. TW specs show avg SW with string is 323.

You have to time the swings with a timer up to ten swings including a full tenth swing leading to number 11. Take the average time of 10 swings then plug into the tw university sw calculator. It’s low because you didn’t time to 10 swings including a full tenth swing leading to number 11.


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fjcamry

Semi-Pro
Did anyone notice MP being slightly shorter than 27"?

No because we measured the balance point spot on 32cm string . Weight and sw was measure spot on 335gm string , 325. Tension is 55lbs even. Only time it would be short is if you string high tension above 57lbs .


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fjcamry

Semi-Pro
Ok, so without actual measurements this is perhaps not that informative, but my PT 2.0 swings much heavier than both the GPro and the leaded MP+. After playing the PT2.0 for a while, and then switching to the GPro, the GPro felt like a super light 300g MP type of frame :cool:

Right now, I'm pretty sure I'll be using the leaded MP+ in the clay season, as it is easier to use, and has a very nice feel to it.

The PT 2.0 is still the Mjølner (Thor's hammer) of the crop, but to get the most of it, you need to be swinging hard, Thor-style :-D It's so solid against hard pace, if you hit the sweet zone, it's intoxicating. Terms like plush and plush often get used to describe this feeling, but often the description fails to differentiate between different types of "plushness". The PT 2.0 reminds me of the IGPMP, in having a solid feel, that upon impact (against pace) has this "give" to it, that can be described as plush. Which is very different to f.inst. a soft frame that flexes like a noodle, but that can also be described as plush. The MP+ in the middle here, f.inst. whereas the EXO3 Tour 100s were noodles, but this not a simple linear axis though, ime.

That being said, my fav shot with it, has been my two handed backhand: that swing weight just drives through the ball, so even if my swing speed on the 2hbh is not the most impressive, the shots are deep and penetrating with nasty topspin.

The GPro otoh, has the softest and plushest of the bunch, but still it has something of that initial firmness/solidness of the PT 2.0, that the MP+ doesn't have. My fav frame would have been the layup/feel of the GPro in the MP+.

The prestige mp360+ can be a weapon when serving . When the motion is correct and the toss is perfect at 12 o’clock , with correct posture and leg drive you can serve like a beast . The ground strokes following are best with the grip in hand as the tk82s is a modern clam shape head grip not any different than the old head broad clam shape grip .

This old head feeling and modern balance of G360+ mp, is all you need when using this 325sw 11.8oz racket.

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Howard H

Rookie

Power Player

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All three of the online shopping sites, TW, TE, and ******* have the same specs of over 320SW so wonder where they got that.

I never tried a low SW of 310 with a static static close to 12oz so will give that a shot and see how to goes.

What SW measurement did you get on the Prestige mid? Sorry if you already posted this, I missed it.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Head either gave the wrong specs on their site or to tw . The specs on the frame for unstrung weight is correct 320gm. Also the balance is unstrung 31cm . The correct weight strung is 11.8oz or 0.5 oz more for the mp, the mid and pro are 0.6oz more strung. That’s due to the lower swing weight for the mp. Also the balance point of 32cm strung for mp or 7HL compared to 6HL for mid and 5HL for pro.

Also I don’t know about beams but the mp is 20mm hence it’s softer flex 59.

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This site has really low SW measurements. They measured the Blade 18x20 in the 320s. It's not. I spoke with TW about this when I bought my second one. The 18x20 on average has been coming in at 310 unstrung.

I dont think the Prestige Mid is 321.
 

fjcamry

Semi-Pro
This site has really low SW measurements. They measured the Blade 18x20 in the 320s. It's not. I spoke with TW about this when I bought my second one. The 18x20 on average has been coming in at 310 unstrung.

I dont think the Prestige Mid is 321.

Thank you . I think they are miscalculating the sw value by a full swing . It will come out according to spec for the mp at 325sw.


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mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
I just played with the new G360+ Prestige MP. Though it isn't as buttery as the IG version, it seems to play really well with a modern but soft feel. I actually do appreciate the playability of the Prestige MP's, even the previous Graphene variations, but their feel didn't encourage me to pull them out of the bag. This version seems a little different with a better feel, just as accurate, and moves through the air so quickly that I was attacking the lines with confidence and aggression. This version is actually fun to hit with. I came off highly impressed on my first outing. Hopefully, this will continue.
 

jdeloach

Hall of Fame
I just played with the new G360+ Prestige MP. Though it isn't as buttery as the IG version, it seems to play really well with a modern but soft feel. I actually do appreciate the playability of the Prestige MP's, even the previous Graphene variations, but their feel didn't encourage me to pull them out of the bag. This version seems a little different with a better feel, just as accurate, and moves through the air so quickly that I was attacking the lines with confidence and aggression. This version is actually fun to hit with. I came off highly impressed on my first outing. Hopefully, this will continue.

I agree with your words. It has a nice modern feel with still maintaining the old-school feel of the Prestige. The IG is a little more buttery compared to this, but I believe the extra crispy "POP" is a nice addition as I get older and cant quite generate the same power as I use to
 
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The prestige mp360+ can be a weapon when serving . When the motion is correct and the toss is perfect at 12 o’clock , with correct posture and leg drive you can serve like a beast . The ground strokes following are best with the grip in hand as the tk82s is a modern clam shape head grip not any different than the old head broad clam shape grip .

This old head feeling and modern balance of G360+ mp, is all you need when using this 325sw 11.8oz racket.

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Totally agree with the serving, I haven't found a racquet that served this well since I used ncode 6.1 95 like 15 years ago, somehow you can just get some crazy speed and accuracy
 

TennisHound

Legend
^^^I agree on this MP. I have a demo, and pulled it out in a 3rd set against 2 4.0 60+ guys who kicked our as- the first 2 sets (yes we lost the match). We were down 2-3 in the (meaningless) 3rd set. I tried the 360 PMP and we won 6-3. I couldn’t do anything with my PD or Blade 98L (w/leather grip). The first couple of forehands went to the bottom of the net, until I adjusted, then I couldn’t miss. Crazy. And I didn’t like this racquet at all the first time I hit with it.
 

sargeinaz

Hall of Fame
The prestige mp360+ can be a weapon when serving . When the motion is correct and the toss is perfect at 12 o’clock , with correct posture and leg drive you can serve like a beast . The ground strokes following are best with the grip in hand as the tk82s is a modern clam shape head grip not any different than the old head broad clam shape grip .

This old head feeling and modern balance of G360+ mp, is all you need when using this 325sw 11.8oz racket.

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I think every racket is great at serving “When the motion is correct and the toss is perfect at 12 o’clock , with correct posture and leg drive” lol
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I can tell you it's has a soft feel. You also get more pop from the upper part of the hoop. I'm dying to post my video but.....NDA.

Its alot like the gravity. Has the same fibers. More precision oriented.
You were right the 360 Prestige MP has a soft feel
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
I can't decide if I would like the Mid or MP. I hit with the Mid yesterday. MP tonight. Specs are so similar but some key differences.
 
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Would anybody be able to recommend a good tension for a natural gut/poly hybrid? I was thinking about 51/47?
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
No love for the Tour? I am a fan of Novak, so 18/19 pattern is attractive.
I love the Tour version, 21mm beam and more open 18x19.
Very nice feel, stable stick, low power. Great control and spin. 18x19 in 99 sq in is great.
But has nothing in common with the PT346 that Novak uses (your previous post comment)
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
Prestige people,

I have never used the Prestige until a short hit yesterday with the Mid. The laser beam shot ability is awesome. Serves were massive. It is taking me time to adjust to the lower launch angle though.

I am coming from the Extreme and the Speed, so it is a big change. I want to get a Prestige before the end of tomorrow (end of sale). I am going to hit with the MP tonight. I don't have the Pro or Tour to demo.

Which Prestige do you recommend I get? Is there one to avoid? I'm thinking the Mid may be too big a jump, so maybe some of the larger head size models might be better.

Thoughts?
 
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Prestige people,

I have never used the Prestige until a short hit yesterday with the Mid. The laser beam shot ability is awesome. Serves were massive. It is taking me time to adjust to the lower launch angle though.

I am coming from the Extreme and the Speed, so it is a big change. I want to get a Prestige before the end of tomorrow (end of sale). I am going to hit with the MP tonight. I don't have the Pro or Tour to demo.

Which Prestige do you recommend I get? Is there one to avoid? I'm thinking the Mid may be too big a jump, so maybe some of the larger head size models might be better.

Thoughts?
The mid has more power I feel than the mp, the mp has a semi open 18/20 imo so it has good spin, the mid has a 16/19 with a very similar string spacing. They both feel very controlled but have a good level of power.
 
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