NEW Prestige MP 360

[Slodge630]

Is anyone of you familiar with these 4.5 rankings etc. I am from Germany and we dont have these rankings here but I would like to know what my ranking would be approximately. Could I post a video of me hitting and some of you assess what my level approximately is? Then I would film this afternoon.
thanks!

 

[Gee]

Is anyone of you familiar with these 4.5 rankings etc. I am from Germany and we dont have these rankings here but I would like to know what my ranking would be approximately. Could I post a video of me hitting and some of you assess what my level approximately is? Then I would film this afternoon.
thanks!

Here is a international rating comparison table

 

[smalahove]

Recently ordered two MP Mids from TW a week apart, one weighs 317g, the other 325g (spec is 320g).

Just measured the length, and damn if both of these Mid frames are about 1/4" short of 27"-- more precisely, the frame itself is 68.1cm, the guard is 4mm, so that's 68.5cm, one mm short of 68.6cm (27"). So evidently Head includes the guard in the length of the racquet, just like they used to measure the head size from the outer frame, not the inner frame like everyone else. So with Head you are actually getting a frame of 26 3/4" plus a 1/4" headguard. No wonder they swing so fast! Kind of deceptive marketing. I checked my RF97 and it is 27" butt to top-of-frame, so it's an actual 27" length.

Well, these Mids are going back, love affair with Head is over.

If your racket clocks in at exactly 685 mm, well then it's on point.

Head states that the MP+ (and Mid+) are: 685 mm / 27.0 in

And this is an industry "standard" / imperfection, as 27 inch is not the same as 685 mm.
So some mfcs opt for one or the other.

TW claims your racket should be 27in / 68.58cm
A big euro webshop claims it should be 26.97 in / 68.5 cm

Let me ask you this: do you think all 100 sq in rackets have a surface area, inside the hoop, of exactly 100 sq in?

 

[Slodge630]

Here is a international rating comparison table

Thanks! That helps. So I guess I am 5.5 in us rankings approximately. But still don’t know if this is good or mediocre ... i.e how to interpret that

 

[Return_Ace]

Thanks! That helps. So I guess I am 5.5 in us rankings approximately. But still don’t know if this is good or mediocre ... i.e how to interpret that

You're better than average, but not as good as a Pro

 

[Gee]

Thanks! That helps. So I guess I am 5.5 in us rankings approximately. But still don’t know if this is good or mediocre ... i.e how to interpret that

Let's say that you really can play tennis and deserve a tennis diploma for all aspects of the game! ;-)

 

[TennisHound]

Edited

 

[Slodge630]

You're better than average, but not as good as a Pro

Ok thats what I thought probably holds for almost everyone on this forum

 

[Villain]

I'm not the one claiming that I use this racquet. Your posts are clearly just hot air.

As if anything I’ve said or anything you know could prove otherwise. I don’t feel the need to prove anything to you considering your crappy attitude and constant stalking. I own two MPs, weighted up to around 335 SW, and I play with them regularly. Believe me or don’t. I couldn’t care less what you think about it.

 

[ls206]

I have been somewhat undecided about my MP+ but my latest outing has left me feeling very confident about it.

The comfort is great and noticeably softer than the Ultra Tour.
The control isn’t as good as the UT but there is a bit more spin which certainly helps my forehand and kick serve.
Power level I would say is very similar.
[edit]: It's worth noting that the MP+ has a lower SW, if it was matched exactly with the UT I think it would have slightly more power

The main attraction for me is that I think I could happily use full poly in the MP+ a few times a week without my arm falling off

 

[calvol]

If your racket clocks in at exactly 685 mm, well then it's on point.

Head states that the MP+ (and Mid+) are: 685 mm / 27.0 in

Let me ask you this: do you think all 100 sq in rackets have a surface area, inside the hoop, of exactly 100

The point is Head includes the head guard in the 685mm spec and Wilson does not in their 685.8 spec. So Wilson‘s frame is about 5mm longer and a true 27”. The guard is not part of the frame, do you agree? No surprise they do this as it’s consistent with overstating the specs for head area in the past contrary to other vendors. Maybe 100 sq-in specs vary but the method of measurement is the same. So why is Head playing games here offering a stubby frame, to save manufacturing costs?

 

[vsbabolat]

The point is Head includes the head guard in the 685mm spec and Wilson does not in their 685.8 spec. So Wilson‘s frame is about 5mm longer and a true 27”. The guard is not part of the frame, do you agree? No surprise they do this as it’s consistent with overstating the specs for head area in the past contrary to other vendors. Maybe 100 sq-in specs vary but the method of measurement is the same. So why is Head playing games here offering a stubby frame, to save manufacturing costs?

No, racquets are cut to length after they are made

 

[calvol]

No, racquets are cut to length after they are made

Not saying that, why doesn't Head use a full-length 685mm mold, instead of 681mm, then adding a 4mm head-guard to make it 685?

Why does Head include plastic in their frame spec?

 

[smalahove]

Not saying that, why doesn't Head use a full-length 685mm mold, instead of 681mm, then adding a 4mm head-guard to make it 685?

Why does Head include plastic in their frame spec?

my three Head frames measured 26.95. 27.05 and 27.1 from butt to head guard. None of my head guards add more than 1-2 mm afaicr

 

[vsbabolat]

Not saying that, why doesn't Head use a full-length 685mm mold, instead of 681mm, then adding a 4mm head-guard to make it 685?

Why does Head include plastic in their frame spec?

You don't understand what I just said. Racquets are made and when they come out if the mold they are 29/30 inches and then they are cut to the desired length. It’s NOT the length of the mold that determines length. Again racquets are cut to the desired length after the racquet is made. Mold has nothing to do with it

 

[calvol]

You don't understand what I just said. Racquets are made and when they come out if the mold they are 29/30 inches and then they are cut to the desired length. It’s NOT the length of the mold that determines length. Again racquets are cut to the desired length after the racquet is made. Mold has nothing to do with it

Why cut racquets 4mm short, then add plastic guard to say spec'd at 685mm total? Why not market as a "shorty" frame at 26.75"? If Prince previously marketed a frame at 27.25", why shouldn't Head correctly market their frame as 26.75"

 

[Return_Ace]

The point is Head includes the head guard in the 685mm spec and Wilson does not in their 685.8 spec. So Wilson‘s frame is about 5mm longer and a true 27”. The guard is not part of the frame, do you agree? No surprise they do this as it’s consistent with overstating the specs for head area in the past contrary to other vendors. Maybe 100 sq-in specs vary but the method of measurement is the same. So why is Head playing games here offering a stubby frame, to save manufacturing costs?

Actually, by the way you describe, i would say Head are doing the correct thing by going by length of the finished product.

The racket is what is 27" in length, and the racket includes the Headguard and Buttcap.

 

[calvol]

Actually, by the way you describe, i would say Head are doing the correct thing by going by length of the finished product.

The racket is what is 27" in length, and the racket includes the Headguard and Buttcap.

I prefer to know the actual frame length, not including plastic guard, like Wilson does. I guess there's no industry standard, but Head was always the outlier, when they previously used outer dimensions for head size.

 

[calvol]

my three Head frames measured 26.95. 27.05 and 27.1 from butt to head guard. None of my head guards add more than 1-2 mm afaicr

Which frames are these? Mine are the Mid 93. Did I just get two from a bad batch?

 

[smalahove]

Which frames are these? Mine are the Mid 93. Did I just get two from a bad batch?

Mid+, MP+ and GPro. I think the GPro was the one just shy of 27 in. All strung around 46 lbs.

Btw, all the times I’ve used TWEs racket matching service, where you pay for specs on 6 rackets (w, bl, sw, ra), the big brands have been all over the place, with one exception, and that’s Yonex.

But even with Yonex, the diff in specs from these batches just goes to show that if you’ve sure of which racket you want, paying for such a service makes a lot of sense, regardless of brand.

 

[vsbabolat]

Remember you guys should be measuring racquets that are unstrung

 

[Slodge630]

Remember you guys should be measuring racquets that are unstrung

Anything else doesn’t make sense. You shouldn’t even compare a racket that has been strung a couple of times to an identical new one even if both are unstrung. The racket head changes is shape immediately once strung once. Eg my old prestige tour are definitely rounder than the new ones even if both are unstrung

 

[ls206]

OK, I'm officially switching. Loving the racquet. Got a couple more on order and the Ultras will be going up the loft once they arrive.

Specs ended up being 344g, 31.6cm and 325sw.
I think I'll end up moving some weight from the butt to the head to get around 330sw and 32cm balance but tbh, it hits a mean ball as it is now.

String-wise, SPPP/Velocity isn't lasting long so may opt for full poly. Currently stringing at 22/20.5kg. How low are people stringing their full poly in this?

 

[Slodge630]

String-wise, SPPP/Velocity isn't lasting long so may opt for full poly. Currently stringing at 22/20.5kg. How low are people stringing their full poly in this?

I use solinco tour bite soft with 25/24 kilos

 

[smalahove]

String-wise, SPPP/Velocity isn't lasting long so may opt for full poly. Currently stringing at 22/20.5kg. How low are people stringing their full poly in this?

MSV Focus HEX Plus 38 1.20 @44 lbs
Head Lynx 1.25 @46 lbs

Both strings are nice and super plush, but I’m thinking of trying out a thicker gauge to bump SW (perhaps remove a little lead) and stiffen the stringbed a bit.

 

[ls206]

I’ve been eyeing up Head Lynx as a soft poly. It’s between that and black knight 1.18 but historically I’ve found 1.20mm and smaller gauges end up being a bit unpredictable. That said... I’m not certain I’ve tried them since moving to 18x20

 

[fjcamry]

1.20 is fine in this 18x20. I prefer 16g because of the thicker weight on the ball. But 1.20 is fine in this racket .


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[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Had a hit today with the new G360+ Prestige MP. Great feel and a soft response from the stringbed. Absolutely no problem with spin or power levels. The directional control is great and I was able to execute all of my shots. I feel Head has definitely moved in the "right" direction with this version and I look forward to playing many more hours with this racquet.

I will have to have a more extensive hit with it after I make some modifications. The racquet is too light for my liking, so I will add weight at 3,9, and 12 o'clock to further increase the SW, TW, size of the sweet spot, and overall stability. It's not bad but can always be improved. I will then counter-balance with weight in the handle. Furthermore, the grip size is 4 3/8 and I usually use 4 1/2, so I will need to put on 2 overgrips (first with no overlap and the second wrapped normally)

Most of my racquets are 353-363g static weight. I played it back-to-back with the G360+ Prestige Mid, and although both are very good, I prefer the feel and ball pocketing of the MP. The Mid feels better and more substantial when held in the hand (better weight distribution), but that can always be worked on if need be.

Looking forward to seeing how it plays after the mods.

 

[mike841]

I own two MPs, weighted up to around 335 SW, and I play with them regularly.

LOL. They can't be that good, if you've since bought a Head Gravity and then a Yonex!

Some people just like the idea of a Prestige but can't play well with them.

 

[Villain]

LOL. They can't be that good, if you've since bought a Head Gravity and then a Yonex!

Some people just like the idea of a Prestige but can't play well with them.

Sold the Yonex, was really only an experiment. You must be new. There are people on here who rotate between 10 or more different racquets. 2 is nothing.

 

[ls206]

I’ve got my hands on a couple more of these second hand. (I may have also got a couple from TW, but don’t tell my missus!)

The previous owner had put about 4g either side at 3&9. I prefer a lower twist weight but thought I’d try out the setup before re-applying the lead. As you would expect, a tonne of stability, a much lower launch angle and flatter shot. Feels like it’s more powerful but that might just be because there’s less shape to the ball.

In the end I switched back to the stick with lead at 12 and thoroughly enjoyed the racquet. Which is lucky as I’ve now got 5 of ‘em!

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

I’ve got my hands on a couple more of these second hand. (I may have also got a couple from TW, but don’t tell my missus!)

The previous owner had put about 4g either side at 3&9. I prefer a lower twist weight but thought I’d try out the setup before re-applying the lead. As you would expect, a tonne of stability, a much lower launch angle and flatter shot. Feels like it’s more powerful but that might just be because there’s less shape to the ball.

In the end I switched back to the stick with lead at 12 and thoroughly enjoyed the racquet. Which is lucky as I’ve now got 5 of ‘em!

Glad you're enjoying them. I have one and I think Head has done an excellent job with this version, and I like that the beam thickness is 20mm. I do like a slightly higher TW, so I have added weight at my usual 3,9, and 12 o'clock (1g each from memory), then counter-balanced with about 5-6g at 7" above the butt cap and an overgrip. The static weight comes out to 352g and I'm not sure of the balance, but I like it.

 

[BatTennis]

Is this worth upgrading from the IG MP?

 

[smalahove]

Is this worth upgrading from the IG MP?

Depends what you’re looking for. If you want something similar, but available on the market right now, Pro Tour 2.0 is your ticket. If you want a larger sweet zone and forgiviness, and is willing to accept a more modern, but still great, feel, the new MP is great. But check put the Mid as well, it sits in between the two.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Is this worth upgrading from the IG MP?

That's a tough one... it depends on several things...Do you feel you need a larger head size? Do you want a lighter version of a Prestige MP? I'm not sure what mods (if any) you might have done but do you like racquets with a higher SW as the G360+ starts at 323 (from memory) and the IG MP was 317 (again from memory), at least if on spec.

The feel is different, but I still like it as I wasn't expecting a certain thing. The new one is still comfortable but it's not the Prestige of old, which I would say the IG MP is closer to. I still prefer the feel of the IG MP but it's not a deal-breaker for me when it comes to the G360+ MP. I personally like that the beamwidth of the new one is 20mm... feels better in hand. I have no problem producing power with either, but I had to modify the IG MP more than the G360+ and I think that I like the grip pallet of the G360+ better than the IG MP (although I can play with both).

I think I like the drill pattern of the G360+ MP better than the IG MP, as it is more open and therefore produces easier spin and a larger margin for error (although I could hit all my shots with the IG MP - it's still easier with the G360+). I haven't yet played a full match with the G360+ MP and I haven't served extensively with it either, but I see no problems on that front (especially with a slightly larger head size).

The slices are still killer with the G360+ MP, as they were with the IG MP, but I find it easier to hit my topspin BH with the new one (all small differences but they help).

Hope that helps.

 

[guilhermefdc]

After a brief demo on my club right before they were released, I’ve found a great deal on a 360+ PMP. I’m used to stringing stuff with Element these days - not too stiff, not too soft, around mid-low reference tensions. Given I have only one frame to fool around with, what would you guys suggest I string it with?
Also: SW is going to be much lower than what I’m used to. I‘ll play around with it stock, but some lead seems like a must - what are your setups regarding placement?
(I’ve had a pretty bad experience with Klip Legend Tour and Silverstring on a Blade v7 yesterday - lasted for 40 min before the gut snapped on a hitting session)

 

[ls206]

I’ve got lead at 12, varied amounts for different stock specs. The swingweight is a little lower than my previous setup but I like it. More spin/angles but still enough power and stability. The higher static weight helps too.

I’m enjoying it with Black Knight 1.23 mains and Velocity MLT 1.30 crosses @ 22/21kg. Lasts me roughly 6hrs before the velocity snaps. Playability is great until about 10mins before the snap.

 

[guilhermefdc]

Just a note QC related: I’ve bought 2 360+ PMP over the last week, one from the US and another one here in Brazil. Both came EXACTLY on spec as per TW review, except for SW, which was off by 1 on one of the frames.
Might be luck, but it might be KB expertise being exported to China...

 

[identitee]

I’ve been tinkering with my Prestige 360+ MP over the past couple of weeks, and just wanted to share what’s been working for me so far. I was worried about it being stable enough for my preferences while remaining at a reasonable static weight, but was able to find a spec I’m enjoying. I saved 2g on the handle by swapping out the weighted buttcap (~7g) for an unweighted one with some blutack (you can also remove the weight from the stock buttcap). I then added ~2g of lead at 12, and ~4g at 3 and 9.

This brought the static up to 344gm with overgrip, balance to ~32.5cm, and provides a lot of stability for groundstrokes and volleys. Love the 20mm beam and the comfort this one provides. I’m stringing poly from 45-48lbs.

 

[MarkyMark]

I'm thinking of switching to the Prestige MP from a bladev7 18x20. The blade has a bit higher swing weight than I'd like and is more head heavy than I'd like. I string my blade with alu power at 48lbs. Would this be a good string and tension for the Prestige MP for a baseliner. 3.5 player.

 

[SinneGOAT]

I'm thinking of switching to the Prestige MP from a bladev7 18x20. The blade has a bit higher swing weight than I'd like and is more head heavy than I'd like. I string my blade with alu power at 48lbs. Would this be a good string and tension for the Prestige MP for a baseliner. 3.5 player.

I think that’s good. You may want to drop tension 2 pounds if you want a little extra power/spin but that is honestly a great setup in this racquet.

 

[J011yroger]

I'm thinking of switching to the Prestige MP from a bladev7 18x20. The blade has a bit higher swing weight than I'd like and is more head heavy than I'd like. I string my blade with alu power at 48lbs. Would this be a good string and tension for the Prestige MP for a baseliner. 3.5 player.

Extreme Tour.

J

 

[RF_PRO_STAFF]

Any string experiences/advice for this frame? I've received a few but a few more wouldn't hurt.

 

[TennisHound]

Any string experiences/advice for this frame? I've received a few but a few more wouldn't hurt.

.17ga poly around 46-48lbs

 

[mhkeuns]

Any string experiences/advice for this frame? I've received a few but a few more wouldn't hurt.

18G full poly at 48lbs for me. Tempted to try the Gut/Poly hybrid around 54/50.

 

[Grieeegoorr]

I’ve got lead at 12, varied amounts for different stock specs. The swingweight is a little lower than my previous setup but I like it. More spin/angles but still enough power and stability. The higher static weight helps too.

I’m enjoying it with Black Knight 1.23 mains and Velocity MLT 1.30 crosses @ 22/21kg. Lasts me roughly 6hrs before the velocity snaps. Playability is great until about 10mins before the snap.

@ls206 thanks for putting the Black Knight/Velocity hybrid out there, are you still playing with this setup & do you consider yourself a string breaker?

 

[tennisislife4622]

After a demo session with the Head Prestige MP with Head Lynx Anthracite 16 G at 52 LBS I must say I am completely sold. I think that this is a very underrated 18x20 option in the current market and think its definitely getting overlooked. It is much more stable in stock form than any of my Yonex's and serves are an absolute treat with it. I love the ability to swing out and not have to worry about missing long. Volleys and touch shots are stable and amazing. I wish that head had longer grips like yonex because I do notice the smaller grip on my 2HBH. Ive always been a 4 3/8 player but the demo is 4 1/2 and it feels exactly like my Yonexs that are 4 3/8. Im thinking a thinner poly at like 50 LBS will up the power and launch angle slightly and ill have the holy grail..... can't wait to try!

 

[Slodge630]

Have you tried pt57a? Do you think the prestige is comparable? Better/worse etc?

 

[hadertjou]

anyone experiencing a ton of vibration/metallic feeling on contact with full poly? I'm using a soft poly, 17g at 43 lbs and it feels a little unpleasant with and without a dampener

 

[Slodge630]

Maybe cause the tension is way too low…