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Head makes a weak throat (Graphene process) only to try and beat the RA numbers. Common knowledge. Although... the 360 Instinct MP feels pretty soft all around.
Very interesting point. Was not aware of the gaming of the flex numbers. Are there other metrics that measures flex in other areas of the racket that can explain this? I can’t quite put my finger on it what’s the difference but I’m hoping the next prestige will play more like the pre graphene versions.Head makes a weak throat (Graphene process) only to try and beat the RA numbers. Common knowledge.
What about the new Blade? Is Blade a Prestige competitor?Ugh, sounds like the trend continues - if you want anything resembling proper Prestige then Wilson will be happy to sell you an Ultra Tour![]()
It is now. The Blade V7 has a very soft classic muted feel. I liked itWhat about the new Blade? Is Blade a Prestige competitor?
I instantly noticed that the 360 Instinct MP (TW listed RA at 65) was much softer than the 360 Speed and Extreme MP's (both listed at 63).Head makes a weak throat (Graphene process) only to try and beat the RA numbers. Common knowledge. Although... the 360 Instinct MP feels pretty soft all around.
I don’t think the Graphene versions will ever play like the non-Graphene ones, but it seems like Head is spreading the flex out slightly, rather than concentrated just in the throat.Very interesting point. Was not aware of the gaming of the flex numbers. Are there other metrics that measures flex in other areas of the racket that can explain this? I can’t quite put my finger on it what’s the difference but I’m hoping the next prestige will play more like the pre graphene versions.
For the new prestige mp, does it look like they changed the drilling pattern?
Have you seen and played with the 360 Prestige?So, the new MP seems like a Blade competitor rather than a modification to the current mold? Flexy and with great feel, a la Gravity Pro. Lower powered than the Blade, but with more precision. Maybe better than IG?
Although it seems to be a very nice racquet, I’m unsure of why it will coexist with the Gravity Pro...
Know anything about the beam?MP is a completely new mold, actually a 98 now. TK82S grip shape now as well.
I play the Graphene Touch Speed MP, and I honestly don’t know why people hate that tech so much. It feels super soft and is low powered for a 100 square inch head. I hit with the radical mp and liked it as well. Does it feel as good as the new blade? No, but it’s certainly a good feeling tech in my opinion.The RA gaming was at its worst with the graphene touch stuff (weak throat and rock hard hoop), but it does seem the pendulum may have swung as the 360s were close to neutral feel and the 360+ (with decent stock weight) are actually pleasing feel at contact.
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It's still a prestige style beam, but it's got a bunch of small details that are different. I should be able to hit it early next weekKnow anything about the beam?
Yep, the Touch Radical MP is not that bad. It’s just slightly tip heavy.I play the Graphene Touch Speed MP, and I honestly don’t know why people hate that tech so much. It feels super soft and is low powered for a 100 square inch head. I hit with the radical mp and liked it as well. Does it feel as good as the new blade? No, but it’s certainly a good feeling tech in my opinion.
It's not as bad as people make out. I also used it for a while, if anything I felt it lacked a little crispness but if you want a 100" lower powered, comfortable spin-friendly frame it's a contenderI play the Graphene Touch Speed MP, and I honestly don’t know why people hate that tech so much. It feels super soft and is low powered for a 100 square inch head. I hit with the radical mp and liked it as well. Does it feel as good as the new blade? No, but it’s certainly a good feeling tech in my opinion.
my ONLY issue w the speed MP is that it needs a little more swingweight. if it was a 305-310 g frame with a 325 sw id still be using it.I play the Graphene Touch Speed MP, and I honestly don’t know why people hate that tech so much. It feels super soft and is low powered for a 100 square inch head. I hit with the radical mp and liked it as well. Does it feel as good as the new blade? No, but it’s certainly a good feeling tech in my opinion.
I stuck a leather grip and 3g of lead on it and got to around those specs. It played great except I felt it was too muted eventuallymy ONLY issue w the speed MP is that it needs a little more swingweight. if it was a 305-310 g frame with a 325 sw id still be using it.
See above postKnow anything about the beam?
I got a pack to try out,,………………..
i dont think Head Experimental is a very consistent string. I strung my racquet of choice (VC95) with it and compared it to my new go to setup, GrappleSnake Tour Sniper. I have previously used GS Neon Hybrid, Tourbite, Polytour Pro, and ALU Power in my racquet. Experimental is quite powerful, and the launch angle can get a little crazy. The feel is very, very crisp, but not uncomfortable, and it offers good ball pocketing. I can see why Thiem hybrided it with Hawk in the crosses.
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mp ??mmKnow anything about the beam?
22mm on the Pro, how suprising. Thanks!mp ??mm
mid 20mm
tour 21.5mm
pro 22mm
20mm on the mpmp ??mm
mid 20mm
tour 21.5mm
pro 22mm
Can you say anything about how they differ from your IG Prestige Mids?I hit with the MP and the S this morning. However, they are under NDA so I cannot disclose anything. I can say this, they are really unique. I will be switching to the MP.
Anyone want 4x 25th Anniversary IG prestiges?
I’m guessing the mid is still the rebranded Rev Promp ??mm
mid 20mm
tour 21.5mm
pro 22mm
I can't really. I can tell you they are different and in a good way. However, HEAD marketing will dictate the angle they want to play. If I say something or take pictures before they do their PR I will get myself and several other people in trouble. That said, I will be switching. To me, they really are a 'Game Changer' for the series. I was convinced the IG Prestige series was the best, that's no longer true.Can you say anything about how they differ from your IG Prestige Mids?
I can tell you without even playing with new model... it's worse in every aspect because IG Mid is the best, being last true mid and staying on shoulders of previous generations of giantsCan you say anything about how they differ from your IG Prestige Mids?
True Mids are really hard to use for the general public especially in today's Power/Spin game. However, I pull out my 600s once in a while for hit however I won't use them in League Match. I have them strung with Gut at 62lbs. Smooth as butter.I can tell you without even playing with new model... it's worse in every aspect because IG Mid is the best, being last true mid and staying on shoulders of previous generations of giants![]()
I see nothing wrong in producing / selling what people want to buy. As long as I'm not obliged to buy one and can play with mine IGes.Anyhow, I digress. I think they are making the mid (true 93) more accessible for the general public. However hard-core a mid is, if they don't sell, there's no point in making them. I had 3 x Graphene Touch Mid. I love them but the extra couple square inches/lower SW of my IG prestige MP really helps in returns/serves.
the prvious model felt too heavy for me, and not necessarily stable for the extra weightI can't really. I can tell you they are different and in a good way. ...….
Maybe we have to create another thread to discuss our Mids just not to derail this threadInteresting. I have a couple IG mids around as well. Not a bad frame at all. I have Alu Rough in the crosses and Gut in the Mains. When I started playing with them they were so good! However, forgot to prestretch the Gut and now I'm hitting the fence.
How does it compare to the pro tour 280?I hit with the new Prestige Tour yesterday.....same specs as the previous, but much more stable with a huge sweet spot.
I just realised it was the tour you hit with and not the midplus so perhaps not the one to compare to the pro tour 280...How does it compare to the pro tour 280?
EXACTLY!!! Either show me a freaking picture or give me a review! Otherwise you as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop!Every year these guys come on here and say “I hit with the new ——- but I can’t say anything about it.” So why say anything? It’s not like you’re really telling us anything by saying “I did like it though.” Goofy
it's your choice what to do with this information.EXACTLY!!! Either show me a freaking picture or give me a review! Otherwise you as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop!
Still no help. But a post is better than no postit's your choice what to do with this information.
you can simply discard it.
I didn't do it (write that I hit with Gravity), even I had no documents signed with Head or my coach when I got to hit with it.
But... writing more, or posting pictures had the risk to generate troubles.
So, I can decide to write or not to write that I got to hit with Gravity.
I can as well decide to write that I have seen Prestige characteristics or not to write.
You can decide if you discard this or become jealous that I didn't write more.