New Pure Drive 2018?!

fed1

Professional
Think the color of the current Instinct. I personally thought the new Wilson Ultras looked much better.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Hoping the new model isn't just another paean to 'The Babolat Song'; I.e. 'I wish that I knew what I know now, when I was younger...'
 

Tuskarr

Semi-Pro
Hoping the new model isn't just another paean to 'The Babolat Song'; I.e. 'I wish that I knew what I know now, when I was younger...'
if you havent liked the previous PDs then i guarantee you wont like this one. The PD has been pretty consistent over the years.

move along
 

PaulC

Semi-Pro
I don't get this whole Pure Drive 98 nonsense. You think 2 square inches in head size will make a difference if all else is equal?
Really? Then why all the fuss about the Pure Aero VS 98 ??

Shouldn't Sock and Johnson etc just cut the "nonsense" and play with a Pure Aero 100 ??

And why aren't you swinging with a Pure Drive 100 or any 100 frame anyway??
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Really? Then why all the fuss about the Pure Aero VS 98 ??

Shouldn't Sock and Johnson etc just cut the "nonsense" and play with a Pure Aero 100 ??

And why aren't you swinging with a Pure Drive 100 or any 100 frame anyway??
Are you kidding? The Pure Aero VS is a completely different frame. String pattern, beam width, beam shape, stiffness, etc.

And I am swinging a 100 frame, the PK I'm using is a 100!

Take several seats
 

PaulC

Semi-Pro
Are you kidding? The Pure Aero VS is a completely different frame. String pattern, beam width, beam shape, stiffness, etc.

And I am swinging a 100 frame, the PK I'm using is a 100!

Take several seats
Wow, didn't realize you jointed the 100 club, good for you.

Then again, this "Pure Aero VS is a is a completely different frame" argument can be applied to the proposed Pure Drive 98 too: how do you know it won't have these different traits from Pure Drive 100?

And for sake of argument, I will argue: for the Pure Aero series, the ESSENCE is its ultra Aero beam shape, so the NATURE of the VS and Pure Aero wasn't that different for me, at least not like Pure Aero VS compared to Pure Strike VS Tour.

It's like Wilson Ultra 97 vs 100, according to your argument, they shouldn't exist as 2 models, but fans of the 2 respective models sworn by their respective head sizes.
 
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lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
Wow, didn't realize you jointed the 100 club, good for you.

Then again, this "Pure Aero VS is a is a completely different frame" argument can be applied to the proposed Pure Drive 98 too: how do you know it won't have these different traits from Pure Drive 100?

And for sake of argument, I will argue: for the Pure Aero series, the ESSENCE is its ultra Aero beam shape, so the NATURE of the VS and Pure Aero wasn't that different for me, at least not like Pure Aero VS and Pure Strike VS Tour.

It's like Wilson Ultra 97 vs 100, according to your argument, they shouldn't exist as 2 models, but fans of the 2 respective models sworn by their respective head sizes.
Um... the Pure Aero has a Aeromodular beam all the way around. The Pure Aero VS is the Aero Pro + Pure Control, an Aeromodular throat with a PC beam shape. Completely different rackets.

As for creating a Pure Drive 98, the only purpose would be to possibly making it a players frame weight and change up the string pattern, more closed or even 18x20. Other than that, i don't see people wanting a 98. Instead, if you look at what Babolat currently offers, they would rather go bigger ie. 107 and 110.
 

PaulC

Semi-Pro
Um... the Pure Aero has a Aeromodular beam all the way around. The Pure Aero VS is the Aero Pro + Pure Control, an Aeromodular throat with a PC beam shape. Completely different rackets.

As for creating a Pure Drive 98, the only purpose would be to possibly making it a players frame weight and change up the string pattern, more closed or even 18x20. Other than that, i don't see people wanting a 98. Instead, if you look at what Babolat currently offers, they would rather go bigger ie. 107 and 110.
Here my turn to use the "I don't get it" statement: Yes, the hoop beam shape of the PA VS is same as PC, but like I said, the ESSENCE of the PA VS is the Aero beam (I should say Aero SHAFT), not the hoop beam.

For me personally, the PA VS won't be that different even if the hoop is aero-shaped and not PC like. And that's not just me, as expressed by my several pals who are using PA VS.

How do you explain the popularity of Wilson Tour 95 thru Ultra 97s if there' re really no demand for a powerful 96-98 players frame?
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
Here my turn to use the "I don't get it" statement: Yes, the hoop beam shape of the PA VS is same as PC, but like I said, the ESSENCE of the PA VS is the Aero beam (I should say Aero SHAFT), not the hoop beam.

For me personally, the PA VS won't be that different even if the hoop is aero-shaped and not PC like. And that's not just me, as expressed by my several pals who are using PA VS.

How do you explain the popularity of Wilson Tour 95 thru Ultra 97s if there' re really no demand for a powerful 96-98 players frame?
Yeah you are correct, the essence of the Aero line is the Aero throat shape. Personally for me, the PA VS just feels differently, low powered, much more flexy and controlled.

The Pure Strike is Babolats version of the powerful 98 frame. But I'm on sure side, it would be interesting to see a Pure Drive 98. But if they were to take the PD 100 and just shrink it down to 98, it would be kind of pointless. There would need to be certain changes to justify the addition.
 

PaulC

Semi-Pro
Yeah you are correct, the essence of the Aero line is the Aero throat shape. Personally for me, the PA VS just feels differently, low powered, much more flexy and controlled.

The Pure Strike is Babolats version of the powerful 98 frame. But I'm on sure side, it would be interesting to see a Pure Drive 98. But if they were to take the PD 100 and just shrink it down to 98, it would be kind of pointless. There would need to be certain changes to justify the addition.
PS 98s are somewhat powerful for a 98, but nowhere near as spinny as PD. (I personally hate the dense middle mains on Project One-Seven16X19 too)

The essence of PD is POWERFUL AND Spinny on a SEMI-Aero shaft/hoop beam shape. So PS 98 line (which is on a flat beam) is NOT fitting all the bills here.

I am sure the PD 98 will have some modifications, just like the PA VS. (But I hope no PC hoop beam though :)

I just keep my finger cross hoping it will be at least comparable to a Wilson Ultra 97, if not better.
 

David Le

Hall of Fame
Just seen it. Similar colors to the '09 version but with a huge Pure Drive font running down the left & right side of the throat(Pure in black on the left and Drive in white on the right). The two stripes are white on the right side and black on the left. No active cortex on it, so it's solid on the throat like the PA, but has Babolat new cortex Pure feel inside which dampen the vibrations similar to Wilson's countervail and Head's graphene touch.
 
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Liam Grennon

Professional
I've seen the racket... looks absolutely terrible, a HUGE step down from this years model, I think it looks like a 20$ junior racket.... IMO
 
PS 98s are somewhat powerful for a 98, but nowhere near as spinny as PD. (I personally hate the dense middle mains on Project One-Seven16X19 too)

The essence of PD is POWERFUL AND Spinny on a SEMI-Aero shaft/hoop beam shape. So PS 98 line (which is on a flat beam) is NOT fitting all the bills here.

I am sure the PD 98 will have some modifications, just like the PA VS. (But I hope no PC hoop beam though :)

I just keep my finger cross hoping it will be at least comparable to a Wilson Ultra 97, if not better.
I may have missed it but are they releasing a Pure Drive 98? Wouldn't that be similar to the Pure Strike 16x19 (different beam, etc)?
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I think the new Pure Drive may look amazing in person. It is one of those colors that could be really stunning when you have it in hand. I have not been a huge fan of the last blue one or the most current PJ either.
 

PaulC

Semi-Pro
I may have missed it but are they releasing a Pure Drive 98? Wouldn't that be similar to the Pure Strike 16x19 (different beam, etc)?
Planning stage at best.

But no, if they do it, it will be WAY spinnier and more powerful than that FAKE 16X19 Pure Strike.

I called it FAKE 16X19 along with the Prestige Rev Pro due to the dense middle mains that are as dense as the 18 mains frames.
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
I've seen the racket... looks absolutely terrible, a HUGE step down from this years model, I think it looks like a 20$ junior racket.... IMO
thank you for your opinion.

You probably liked the black one from 2 generations ago with the shiny "pure drive" stickers plastered across the hoop 45 times.

Nah simple is good. This design is simple with an iconic color.
 

Lukhas

Legend
I don't get this whole Pure Drive 98 nonsense. You think 2 square inches in head size will make a difference if all else is equal?
Not at all; but a Pure Drive with a somewhat thinner beam (dunno, around 22mm) and slightly smaller headsize at around 67RA strung, yeah perhaps.

Those we have found web links with the stick is that SO DIFFICULT instead of mentioning them to JUST F POST THEM. For gods shake.
Part of me wishes I hadn't seen that paintjob.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Not at all; but a Pure Drive with a somewhat thinner beam (dunno, around 22mm) and slightly smaller headsize at around 67RA strung, yeah perhaps.


Part of me wishes I hadn't seen that paintjob.
That would be a different matter then ;)

Yeah, the PJ is horrid. What were they thinking?
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I tried to use the PD twice in the past few years. It provides more power and spin then anything I've ever used before but it feels like crap and lacks control big time. Why anyone would want to use such a frame is beyond me. It felt like I was playing with a kids toy, not a tennis racket. The only people around here that use a PD are kids, women or old guys who can't supply their own power. Sorry.... but I tell it like it is.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Everything hinges on the actual colour of the blue and that can only be judged in the 'flesh'.

In design terms, it seems a simpler and less busy one and that is preferable.
 

srvnvly

Hall of Fame
Everything hinges on the actual colour of the blue and that can only be judged in the 'flesh'.

In design terms, it seems a simpler and less busy one and that is preferable.
I agree, as long as the color is not some horrible neon thing you can see from a thousand metres away; stability and plow matter to me
 

srvnvly

Hall of Fame
Also, per Tennis This, "The 2018 Pure Drive will include FSI Power, just like the Pure Strike series (also known as the Project One7) of tennis racquets. While FSI Power is not new, it will be new for the Pure Drive line.

FSI Power will be integrated in the same 16×19 string pattern but the strings will be longer (from end to end) thus increasing the sweetspot of the racquet and giving you more power! Spin will also come easier with the FSI Power technology."
 

n8dawg6

Legend
I tried to use the PD twice in the past few years. It provides more power and spin then anything I've ever used before but it feels like crap and lacks control big time. Why anyone would want to use such a frame is beyond me. It felt like I was playing with a kids toy, not a tennis racket. The only people around here that use a PD are kids, women or old guys who can't supply their own power. Sorry.... but I tell it like it is.
the only ppl i know who use it are 3.5, 4.0, 4.5, and 5.0 male league players.
 
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