New Racquet Confusion

So I am currently looking to buy new racquets and have narrowed my search to two racquets. The Head Youtek IG Instinct and the Yonex VCore 100S. Both have a tremendous amount of power and control and have the stability I am looking for when I come to the net. For some reason though I can't seem to find any difference between the racquets and am looking for anybodies opinion on this matter. Any help, advice, ideas, and prior knowledge would be helpful. I consider myself an all court player and love to serve and volley and am currently using the Head Prestige Pro. Hope this information helps.
 
if it´s 50-50 for you, take the yonex, they have bought the better graphite than head have. the racquet will sustain its stability a year longer. i´m a dunlop embassador so that´s just the uncorrupted truth;)
 

RyKnocks

Semi-Pro
Here's the ultimate question you gotta ask yourself....

Who's hotter, Sharapova or Wozniacki??

LOL, I'm stuck in the same dilemma as you are but haven't demoed either one yet. Specs wise they're virtually the same. I'm personally going for Sharapova because I feel it'll be a bit more maneuverable.
 
Here's the ultimate question you gotta ask yourself....

Who's hotter, Sharapova or Wozniacki??

LOL, I'm stuck in the same dilemma as you are but haven't demoed either one yet. Specs wise they're virtually the same. I'm personally going for Sharapova because I feel it'll be a bit more maneuverable.
Wozniacki is hotter of course and she is not engaged so in the crazy part of my mind I still have a chance.
 
if it´s 50-50 for you, take the yonex, they have bought the better graphite than head have. the racquet will sustain its stability a year longer. i´m a dunlop embassador so that´s just the uncorrupted truth;)
Thank you for sharing that important fact. Is there any specific reason for this such as price or just a known fact?
 

RyKnocks

Semi-Pro
At this level of racquet I don't think the quality of the frame would make much difference. Obviously they're both good enough for the most elite players in the world. Here's what I think the bigger difference will be:

IG Instinct = More maneuverability due to frame shape and balance.

V Core 100S = Bigger sweet spot and stability due to frame shape.

I'm gonna go pick up the IGI for demo today from my local shop. Hopefully they'll have the 100S demo back in stock today as well. If I can try both I'll let you know what I think about them.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
At this level of racquet I don't think the quality of the frame would make much difference. Obviously they're both good enough for the most elite players in the world. Here's what I think the bigger difference will be:

IG Instinct = More maneuverability due to frame shape and balance.

V Core 100S = Bigger sweet spot and stability due to frame shape.

I'm gonna go pick up the IGI for demo today from my local shop. Hopefully they'll have the 100S demo back in stock today as well. If I can try both I'll let you know what I think about them.
The both have large sweetspots anf they both are very maneuverable.

I have used Yonex's and don't think that the headshape gives you a "bigger" sweetspot at all. It just makes it sized differently. Otherwise everyone else would be using that headshape. It's just marketing mumbo-jumbo.

You just have to try both and go with whichever one gives you better results on the court. Personally I love the Instinct and think it works well for flat hitting. Sharapova is also a flat hitter if that makes any difference, but I don't think she is really using the Instinct frame...just the paintjob.
 

RyKnocks

Semi-Pro
The both have large sweetspots anf they both are very maneuverable.

I have used Yonex's and don't think that the headshape gives you a "bigger" sweetspot at all. It just makes it sized differently. Otherwise everyone else would be using that headshape. It's just marketing mumbo-jumbo.

You just have to try both and go with whichever one gives you better results on the court. Personally I love the Instinct and think it works well for flat hitting. Sharapova is also a flat hitter if that makes any difference, but I don't think she is really using the Instinct frame...just the paintjob.
Do you think the Instinct would be good for a spin based game as well? I like to put a lot of top spin on my shots. I know the 100S is probably perfect for that, but something about the Instinct makes me gravitate to it.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Do you think the Instinct would be good for a spin based game as well? I like to put a lot of top spin on my shots. I know the 100S is probably perfect for that, but something about the Instinct makes me gravitate to it.
Tennis is a game that MUST be played with spin. Even "flat" hitters use spin to some degree. Every tennis racquet ever made can put spin on the ball with proper technique. This notion that one racquet is "better for spin" and another is "better for flat hitting" is 99% b.s. IMO. Spin or lack of spin is
due almost entirely to technique...not the material in the frame. Strings and tension have FAR more of an impact on spin than the frame.

If you take a racquet "designed for spin" and hit through the ball with little "high to low" swingpath and finnish around your left shoulder/side you will hit a flat ball no matter what.
 

Teski

Rookie
Do you think the Instinct would be good for a spin based game as well? I like to put a lot of top spin on my shots. I know the 100S is probably perfect for that, but something about the Instinct makes me gravitate to it.
Yes. It has an open string pattern which is obviously good for spin, and if you watch the review on YouTube from TW, you'll see they talk about it having good spin. In fact, when it gets to Carol, she notes that she's a flat ball hitter and she was even more impressed with generating spin on this than she was hitting flat.

I wound up picking the Instinct as my racket after leaving the APDGT, and I've had no issues generating spin especially when using a hybrid string.
 

Teski

Rookie
Yes. It has an open string pattern which is obviously good for spin, and if you watch the review on YouTube from TW, you'll see they talk about it having good spin. In fact, when it gets to Carol, she notes that she's a flat ball hitter and she was even more impressed with generating spin on this than she was hitting flat.

I wound up picking the Instinct as my racket after leaving the APDGT, and I've had no issues generating spin especially when using a hybrid string.
BTW, here's the review I'm talking about by the TW staff - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmyP_OVxIK8
 

RyKnocks

Semi-Pro
Yes. It has an open string pattern which is obviously good for spin, and if you watch the review on YouTube from TW, you'll see they talk about it having good spin. In fact, when it gets to Carol, she notes that she's a flat ball hitter and she was even more impressed with generating spin on this than she was hitting flat.

I wound up picking the Instinct as my racket after leaving the APDGT, and I've had no issues generating spin especially when using a hybrid string.
Thanks Teski for the feedback. I don't even know why I'm demoing because I'm 95% sure that I'm gonna pick up the Instinct. Maybe it's because I picked up the PB10 Mid without demoing and it ended up being too much racquet for me.

BTW, I've watched the TW Instinct and 100S video reviews 100x over and I think it's Carol's assessment of the Instinct that won me over on it.
 

Teski

Rookie
Thanks Teski for the feedback. I don't even know why I'm demoing because I'm 95% sure that I'm gonna pick up the Instinct. Maybe it's because I picked up the PB10 Mid without demoing and it ended up being too much racquet for me.

BTW, I've watched the TW Instinct and 100S video reviews 100x over and I think it's Carol's assessment of the Instinct that won me over on it.
Demoing it always a great idea. I've been burned myself before. The tough thing is avoiding analysis paralysis. It's easy to get caught up in all of the details and it can drive you crazy! I've done it to myself too many times. :)
 

makinao

Rookie
Just a thought: you are coming from a flexible racket, with stiffness in the low 60s, and if it is an original Prestige Pro, I assume you've been using it for a long time. You are considering a couple of stiff rackets with stiffness indexes in the high 60's. One of my regular doubles partners and I did this a couple of years ago, and not only was there a steep learning curve, but we've had a parade of arm problems. I just gave up last week and went back to a flexible racket. I suggest you demo them very carefully, observing how your arm/body feels afterwards, and what adjustments you will need to execute your regular repertoire of shots.
 

Teski

Rookie
Just a thought: you are coming from a flexible racket, with stiffness in the low 60s, and if it is an original Prestige Pro, I assume you've been using it for a long time. You are considering a couple of stiff rackets with stiffness indexes in the high 60's. One of my regular doubles partners and I did this a couple of years ago, and not only was there a steep learning curve, but we've had a parade of arm problems. I just gave up last week and went back to a flexible racket. I suggest you demo them very carefully, observing how your arm/body feels afterwards, and what adjustments you will need to execute your regular repertoire of shots.
While this is true, there are so many more factors than stiffness rating. My APDGT gave me all sorts of arm issues, but the Instinct (rated one less), and the Prince EXO3 black (rated one more in stiffness) were both great for me. It's all in the material, the grommets (in the case of the Black), and the other characteristics of the racket (sweet spot, shape, etc).

I tried the IG Speed 16x19 which has a lower stiffness rating than all of the above, and my arm was also hurting from those demos.

String also plays a huge part as we all know.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
While this is true, there are so many more factors than stiffness rating. My APDGT gave me all sorts of arm issues, but the Instinct (rated one less), and the Prince EXO3 black (rated one more in stiffness) were both great for me. It's all in the material, the grommets (in the case of the Black), and the other characteristics of the racket (sweet spot, shape, etc).

I tried the IG Speed 16x19 which has a lower stiffness rating than all of the above, and my arm was also hurting from those demos.

String also plays a huge part as we all know.
agree with the above.

The racquet stiffness is measured in ONE SPOT in the throat. It doesn't take into account the entire frame's material, strings, sweetspot, etc. The stiffness number is just one part of the equation.
 

RyKnocks

Semi-Pro
While this is true, there are so many more factors than stiffness rating. My APDGT gave me all sorts of arm issues, but the Instinct (rated one less), and the Prince EXO3 black (rated one more in stiffness) were both great for me. It's all in the material, the grommets (in the case of the Black), and the other characteristics of the racket (sweet spot, shape, etc).

I tried the IG Speed 16x19 which has a lower stiffness rating than all of the above, and my arm was also hurting from those demos.

String also plays a huge part as we all know.
+1 to this as well.

I dropped an LM Rad/MG Rad/PSTGT for a Volkl PB10 Mid which only has a higher stiffness rating than the MG Rad. While it's touted as a comfy racquet, I had nothing but shoulder problems because I couldn't engage the sweet spot enough and off center hits on this racquet are very harsh.

I went back and started using my wife's LM Rad and haven't had any issues since.
 
agree with the above.

The racquet stiffness is measured in ONE SPOT in the throat. It doesn't take into account the entire frame's material, strings, sweetspot, etc. The stiffness number is just one part of the equation.
But don't you think that the stiffness rating also has a little to do with the resistance the racquet has once it makes contact with the ball. The lower the stiffness the more flex and higher the less flex is what I have come to understand. I do know that stiffer racquets have more stability, but do they really "plow" through the ball more than racquets with a more flexible head?
 
+1 to this as well.

I dropped an LM Rad/MG Rad/PSTGT for a Volkl PB10 Mid which only has a higher stiffness rating than the MG Rad. While it's touted as a comfy racquet, I had nothing but shoulder problems because I couldn't engage the sweet spot enough and off center hits on this racquet are very harsh.

I went back and started using my wife's LM Rad and haven't had any issues since.
I have tendinitis in my shoulder and have found that with stiffer racquets the lower you string the better. I currently play with the Head Prestige Pro and have always strung two three points lower than the mid range and have not had any issues. The only racquets I have ever had issues with have been with the Babolats. All of their racquets except for the Pure Storm line are so stiff that I can feel the vibrations in my shoulder. The reason for my choosing of these two racquets is to help me generate more power while not killing my arm. So far I can say that both these racquets are great. I am leaning towards the Yonex though because of the overwhelming support it has gotten though. Have you tried hitting with the Pure Storm GT or the Radical Pro because they have low stiffness rating which you may like?
 

RyKnocks

Semi-Pro
I have tendinitis in my shoulder and have found that with stiffer racquets the lower you string the better. I currently play with the Head Prestige Pro and have always strung two three points lower than the mid range and have not had any issues. The only racquets I have ever had issues with have been with the Babolats. All of their racquets except for the Pure Storm line are so stiff that I can feel the vibrations in my shoulder. The reason for my choosing of these two racquets is to help me generate more power while not killing my arm. So far I can say that both these racquets are great. I am leaning towards the Yonex though because of the overwhelming support it has gotten though. Have you tried hitting with the Pure Storm GT or the Radical Pro because they have low stiffness rating which you may like?
I'm looking at these racquets for the exact same reason as you are. Generating more power on my serve without having to over exert myself and make myself injury prone.

I've hit with the Pure Storm Tour GT, Pure Drive GT, and Pure Drive Roddick + and the Pure Storm was the only one I enjoyed of the bunch. The only reason why I didn't like it was because it was a bit heavy and not as maneuverable.

The IG Instinct is newer which is why you may not see much on it yet. Also, people may be waiting for the new IG Prestige and IG Radical coming next year. At any rate, I'm sure you'll be happy with either one. For me, Sharapova > Wozniacki ;)
 
I'm looking at these racquets for the exact same reason as you are. Generating more power on my serve without having to over exert myself and make myself injury prone.

I've hit with the Pure Storm Tour GT, Pure Drive GT, and Pure Drive Roddick + and the Pure Storm was the only one I enjoyed of the bunch. The only reason why I didn't like it was because it was a bit heavy and not as maneuverable.

The IG Instinct is newer which is why you may not see much on it yet. Also, people may be waiting for the new IG Prestige and IG Radical coming next year. At any rate, I'm sure you'll be happy with either one. For me, Sharapova > Wozniacki ;)
Ah yes good point the IG line for the Radicals and Prestiges are due out next year. I had a similar isue with the Pure Storm GT the weight was to evenly distributed for me which is why I like these racquets. If I needed more of a head light balance i could just use a leather grip with with either of these two racquets.
 
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