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Raistlin

Rookie
Name & Nationality Points
1 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 13,730
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 11,810
3 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI) 5,740
4 Federer, Roger (SUI) 5,225
5 Berdych, Tomas (CZE) 4,720
6 Ferrer, David (ESP) 4,640
7 Del Potro, Juan Martin(ARG) 4,260
8 Murray, Andy (GBR) 3,975
9 Isner, John (USA) 2,715
10 Raonic, Milos (CAN) 2,710

Milos matches his career high ranking of #10 in the world, methinks one should pay attention to this guy :)
 
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SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't know... Raonic always seems to jump up in the rankings when other top guys start playing inconsistently. He isn't like Dimitrov or Dolgopolov this year who have caused major upsets, jumping up in the rankings by doing so, he just benefitted from others' poor play. IMO Raonic (and Isner) do not have the all around game in order to be considered serious contenders.
 

Bukmeikara

Legend
I don't know... Raonic always seems to jump up in the rankings when other top guys start playing inconsistently. He isn't like Dimitrov or Dolgopolov this year who have caused major upsets, jumping up in the rankings by doing so, he just benefitted from others' poor play. IMO Raonic (and Isner) do not have the all around game in order to be considered serious contenders.

Well he didnt do it this year but probably did something last year so now he is going up at the rankings. He is basicaly above Dimitrov since 2011 its strange to consider the bulgarian contendet and Milos not. Between Raonic beat Murray in Barcelona some years ago, lost to Federer at Madrid 3rd set tiebrike and lost to Monaco 3rd round at the French after 5 sets in 2012 when the last one was inform. Its seems to me that Raonic can be contender during the whole year.
 

Desertman

Hall of Fame
Murray is due a boost soon. He has 180 points to defend between now and Queens. Those above him have anything between 1000 and 5000 to protect. As long as he stays healthy and has some sort of form through the clay season he's likely back around 3rd or 4th by the time the grass season rolls along. Alternatively, I see him doing what he did last year and miss most of the clay season to concentrate on Wimbledon.
 
Raonic/Isner/Gasquet/Tsonga/Dimitrov one of these 4 will make the WTF and two if Ferrer has a poor clay court season, with a French final to defend.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Dunno really, Raonic doesn't deserve to top10 with all the cheating he's been doing lately.
 

Matt H.

Professional
clay court season is going to determine #1.

Rafa has a 2nd rd Wimbledon and US Open title to defend, so even if you think he doesn't win either the points should stay about the same because he'll most likely go further at Wimbledon this year.
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
Good to see Roger back where he belongs....getting on 33 in the top 4 says something about him as a player and him as a person....dedicated to the sport. I apologize to Ferrer fans but I saw Ferrer till now as a counterfeit top 4 player, especially with his recent form.

If Federer wins a Masters from here till the French and relies on some patchy Stan form then he'll go number 3.

I'm not concerned for Murray at 8th as it seems his Miami run showed he can play well. His back will get it's bigger test on Clay, so maybe he can pull a QF/SF run at one or two of the Clay masters before the French Open. I still don't understand why he doesn't play Casablanca or a some other 250 Clay to win...

Isner at 9th, Robredo is 14th, Haas drops down after failing to defend his Miami points due to a recurring shoulder issue...I hope he get's better. I feel Djokovic will end 2014 as Number 1...look at the points he's amassed and he currently isn't a holder of any of the slams!
 

Chico

Banned
Djokovic is getting closer. To reclaim #1 after FO.

Berdych, Ferrer and Isner need to go out of top 10. They are just pigeons and nuisance. Isner is boring while Berdych and Ferrer just give Nadal free pass every time they play. That is simply unacceptable.

Murray and Raonic to go up.
 

TheMusicLover

G.O.A.T.
When does Delpo lose his protected ranking?

DelPotro will go down in the rankings fast if he's indeed out for six months. :(
"Protected ranking" only counts for tournament entries, not for the rankings per sé (I see people mixing this up quite often), and lasts for one year after having left the tour I think - correct me if wrong.
 
I find it interesting how there is a general perception that Nadal is underperforming here and Djokovic will soon overtake him.

Djokovic should have at least 1000 ATP points on Nadal in the race at this time of the year and he only has around 100. And this thanks to a back injury in the AO.

Reality will soon descend upon Djokovic fans like a ton of bricks.
 

dudeski

Hall of Fame
I find it interesting how there is a general perception that Nadal is underperforming here and Djokovic will soon overtake him.

Djokovic should have at least 1000 ATP points on Nadal in the race at this time of the year and he only has around 100. And this thanks to a back injury in the AO.

Reality will soon descend upon Djokovic fans like a ton of bricks.

Yeah and then reality will decent on you when Nadal doesn't win any titles after clay court season this year.
 
Yeah and then reality will decent on you when Nadal doesn't win any titles after clay court season this year.

I'm sure I could find many posts from you predicting Nadal's end at the end of 2012 if I searched for them. You must still be recovering from last year and the AO scare. :)
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
clay court season is going to determine #1.

Rafa has a 2nd rd Wimbledon and US Open title to defend, so even if you think he doesn't win either the points should stay about the same because he'll most likely go further at Wimbledon this year.

He will make up points at wimbledon but canada/cinci/uso will be a tough stretch to defend. Murray and Fed ill be his best friends, if they can pick up some of the points he drops (in other words they win some of the events) all his rivals will be spitting the spoils, but if Djokovic is the only one to win the titles that Nadal doesn't, then he could catch up
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
I don't know how Raonic got up to #10. Seems like he's always losing fairly early. Other than the now defunct SAP Open, has he ever won any other tournament?
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I don't know how Raonic got up to #10. Seems like he's always losing fairly early. Other than the now defunct SAP Open, has he ever won any other tournament?

He has 5 ATP250 titles including 3 back to back SAP Opens (2011-13), Chennai (2012) and Bangkok (2013).
 
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jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
I feel Djokovic will end 2014 as Number 1...look at the points he's amassed and he currently isn't a holder of any of the slams!

Djokovic and Nadal are essentially tied through the first part of the season, a part of the season that has typically been Djokovic's strength. Slams from 2013 have no bearing on year end number 1 for 2014. Neither Nadal or Djokovic have any slam wins in 2014 and are just about even. Nadal has essentially the same number of points so far in 2014 and also has not won any slams this year.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Isner at 9 ! woo woo when was the last time an American ranked this high?

Isner briefly reached the #9 ranking once before in April 2012. He and Mardy Fish were both in the top 10 at that time. Fish attained the #9 ranking in May 2012 and was thus the last American to be ranked so high until now.
 
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Cfidave

Professional
Isner wan't defending any points to speak of at Indian Wells or Miami, and of course, isn't defending any for the clay court season. He is however, defending over 1000 points for the summer hardcourt season, so it remains to be seen if he will remain in the top 10.
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
Great news for Federer. Four is as good as one as far as seedings go so he'll be quite happy to hang here for the year if he can manage it. Should put him in the mix for a possible major barring accidents. He doesn't need one of course but it's just a further opportunity to see him play the game as it should be played.
 
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jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
Four is as good as one as far as seedings go

It isn't. It would be much better for Federer if he could get to 1/2 vs 3/4. If he is ranked 3/4, he will likely need to beat Nadal and Djokovic to win a major as they can't be in the same half. If he gets up to 2, then Nadal and Djokovic could be drawn in the same half and Federer would only have to beat one of them.
 

reaper

Legend
Problem is you only get to be ranked 1 or 2 by being a better player than either Djokovic or Nadal. He isn't at the moment, so won't achieve the ranking.
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
It isn't. It would be much better for Federer if he could get to 1/2 vs 3/4. If he is ranked 3/4, he will likely need to beat Nadal and Djokovic to win a major as they can't be in the same half. If he gets up to 2, then Nadal and Djokovic could be drawn in the same half and Federer would only have to beat one of them.

I do get that - but, "likely" is by no means certainly. Nadal especially and Djokovic to an extent can have slip ups as they've proved recently. Sure it'd be better to be one now especially with a relative bunny at four but my point is about some degree of protection until the semis which is what Fed's after now. I think top two ranking is probably beyond him and I don't think he cares in terms of how his life outside tennis is heading anyway. Four or three is as good as it's going to get from now on and the rest is in the hands of the tennis gods and how well he can catch the lightning when he needs to most. I'm just enjoying the ride. Number crunchers will never see the poetry anyway so they will of course comfort themselves with their double entry book keeping, their pie charts and measurements of average net clearance. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
I do get that - but, "likely" is by no means certainly. Nadal especially and Djokovic to an extent can have slip ups as they've proved recently. Sure it'd be better to be one now especially with a relative bunny at four but my point is about some degree of protection until the semis which is what Fed's after now. I think top two ranking is probably beyond him and I don't think he cares in terms of how his life outside tennis is heading anyway. Four or three is as good as it's going to get from now on and the rest is in the hands of the tennis gods and how well he can catch the lightning when he needs to most. I'm just enjoying the ride. Number crunchers will never see the poetry anyway so they will of course comfort themselves with their double entry book keeping, their pie charts and measurements of average net clearance. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

As a Federer fan, I recognize that he needs to avoid Nadal in order to win majors at this point. Djokovic is the player most likely to take out Nadal at a major as he has done it before a number of times and has beaten him recently. Federer's has a reasonable chance to win if he is playing well and Djokovic takes out Nadal. I give Federer in good form a 35% chance of beating Djokovic in a major and a 5% chance of beating Nadal in a major.

If he can somehow get up to number 2, whether by injury or poor play from Nadal or Djokovic, it will give him a much better chance of winning another major (50% chance Nadal and Djokovic are drawn together).

but my point is about some degree of protection until the semis which is what Fed's after now.

Federer is absolutely not after protection until the semis...Federer only cares about winning more majors at this point. I doubt he cares much if he loses in the quarters or the semis. He wants to win the whole thing to add to his legacy.
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Who would have thought Stan was going to win a major an being ranked nr.3?

I don't think anyone saw this coming.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
Who would have thought Stan was going to win a major an being ranked nr.3?

I don't think anyone saw this coming.
I think it's a shame the win was at Nadal's expense, but no doubt he's as deserving a champion as Rafa at the very least, given his titanic efforts against Djokovic in the past.

Next player I want to see win AO is Murray...provided Rafa isn't going to win one way or another of course.
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
Federer is absolutely not after protection until the semis...Federer only cares about winning more majors at this point. I doubt he cares much if he loses in the quarters or the semis. He wants to win the whole thing to add to his legacy.

?? ?
 

NADALRECORD

Banned
I think it's a shame the win was at Nadal's expense, but no doubt he's as deserving a champion as Rafa at the very least, given his titanic efforts against Djokovic in the past.

Next player I want to see win AO is Murray...provided Rafa isn't going to win one way or another of course.

The AO is clearly the least prestigious of the slams, but Nadal is probably more motivated to win it than he is another Wimbledon/US Open. I like Nadal's chances at the AO. But I agree, it would be great to see Murray win the AO. The best match I saw Murray play was vs Nadal at 2010 AO.
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame

What about my post do you not understand? Do you really think that Federer is satisfied with reaching the semis of slams after all that he has achieved or that what Federer is really after is protection until the semis?
 

fednad

Hall of Fame
I find it interesting how there is a general perception that Nadal is underperforming here and Djokovic will soon overtake him.

Djokovic should have at least 1000 ATP points on Nadal in the race at this time of the year and he only has around 100. And this thanks to a back injury in the AO.

Reality will soon descend upon Djokovic fans like a ton of bricks.

Oh! I did not knwo that Joker had a back injury in the Australian Open
 

Bukmeikara

Legend
The AO is clearly the least prestigious of the slams, but Nadal is probably more motivated to win it than he is another Wimbledon/US Open. I like Nadal's chances at the AO. But I agree, it would be great to see Murray win the AO. The best match I saw Murray play was vs Nadal at 2010 AO.

If we excluded the Historic part of the mather I believe that Ao is the best Slam tournament at the moment. Nadal and Wawrinka said at the final ceremony that this is the best organised tournament in the world and overall I think that this is the event that brings most intrigue and passion from the Big 4 .
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
If we excluded the Historic part of the mather I believe that Ao is the best Slam tournament at the moment. Nadal and Wawrinka said at the final ceremony that this is the best organised tournament in the world and overall I think that this is the event that brings most intrigue and passion from the Big 4 .

Isn't it pretty much compulsory for players to gush about how great the tournament they just won is when standing in front of the sponsors, an adoring crowd and while holding a trophy up. Anything less would be a terrible faux pas.

Having said that, "the best organised tournament" is kind of a, "you don't sweat much for a fat chick" compliment. Considering all of the organisational stuff ups and confusion with the application of the extreme heat rule and how Nadal's MTOs were mishandled, a more cynical mind could read that line as dripping with irony.
 
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