New Solinco machine

Ken_tally

New User
Someone messaged me on Facebook to look at the falcon gt while I was on the hunt for a new machine. For those that don't know, it's an Alpha Ghost type machine with the bird beak tensioning head, ratcheting clamp adjustments, crank height adjustment, and a nice storage drawer. Here are a couple thoughts so far after 6 racquets last night.

The guys at Solinco were very nice to work with.

Assembly was easy except for the coiled power cable in the base. Don't let go of it or you have to fish it out. Luckily I already had a rod and hook made up for just this type of thing. It was well packed. I was able to assemble it myself.

Mounting was nice and easy. It works the same as most the high end machines.

The clamps are new so they held great.

The tensioner leaves marks on poly, but not multi or nylon. I've also never used a linear gripper before so sometimes the string doesn't grab due to user error. The stringway grabs with spring tension. I think I've figured out the best way for me to use it though.

One thing I like, although not a big deal, is that I've done thousands of racquets on my Stringway so I'm used to pulling the string over the top of the racquet at the throat. With the bird beak tensioner, it raises up and has the same result as pulling underneath. I took a picture. I'll try to figure out how to load it later.

Not much else to say, but not having to handle the stringway weight sped me up a bit. I love the stringway though, I'll keep it for backup and strange sized racquets.
 

Ken_tally

New User
When I was reading about the head and solinco machine, someone said that a problem was the tensioning bird beak hitting the grip. I discovered today that it will not pull the string with the handle over the head as long as you mounted the racquet the correct direction. So it does make a difference if you mount it backward.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
I have strung on one of these a couple of times. Very similar to the Ghost 2 I string on. The only thing that took me some getting used to was when starting the mains on an "8 in the throat" racquet the tension head would move up and hit the handle so I needed to position the string to the one side of it or the other.

I really liked the drawer as on my Ghost 2 I am constantly catching tools on the string as I am stringing and having to pick up tools off the floor.
 

Ken_tally

New User
I have strung on one of these a couple of times. Very similar to the Ghost 2 I string on. The only thing that took me some getting used to was when starting the mains on an "8 in the throat" racquet the tension head would move up and hit the handle so I needed to position the string to the one side of it or the other.

I really liked the drawer as on my Ghost 2 I am constantly catching tools on the string as I am stringing and having to pick up tools off the floor.
On my machine, if you put it in the machine with the handle matching the the throat sign on the table, the tensioner won't pull if the handle is over the puller. They may have added that because it was happening on earlier machines. At first I thought the machine was messed up until I realized I put the racquet in backward.

The machine was a bit over 4k plus shipping.
 

fritzhimself

Hall of Fame
I have the Head TE 3300 which has the oval guide rails. But the linear gripper is the same with the same functions.
Something dirty for the clip a little wipe over would not have hurt. :giggle:
 

Ken_tally

New User
I have the Head TE 3300 which has the oval guide rails. But the linear gripper is the same with the same functions.
Something dirty for the clip a little wipe over would not have hurt. :giggle:
Something dirty in the video? The white drywall on the outside of the golf sim enclosure? That won't come off for some reason
 

LOBALOT

Legend
On my machine, if you put it in the machine with the handle matching the the throat sign on the table, the tensioner won't pull if the handle is over the puller. They may have added that because it was happening on earlier machines. At first I thought the machine was messed up until I realized I put the racquet in backward.

The machine was a bit over 4k plus shipping.

That is exactly my point. So now you are having to create an angle for the pull on the 4 center mains. Not the best place to be doing that.
 
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fritzhimself

Hall of Fame
That is exactly my point. So now you are having to create an angle for the pull on the 4 center mains. Not the best place to be doing that.
No, that's not true - the string to be tensioned is only affected once on the left and once on the right. The slant is not very much - all is well.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
No, that's not true - the string to be tensioned is only affected once on the left and once on the right. The slant is not very much - all is well.
Thanks are you sure? Doing a quick calculation of the cosine assuming a 15 degree angle I got a 50 lb tension = roughly 48 lbs. I don't want to make a big deal of this but I did see it when I strung with the machine but you guys know more than me.
 

Ken_tally

New User
That is exactly my point. So now you are having to create an angle for the pull on the 4 center mains. Not the best place to be doing I
I haven't run into this as an issue. On the head side it pulls no matter what the angle. For the throat...I have strung forever on a Stringway machine so I've always pulled the mains over the top of the throat. The nice part for me is that this puller head raises up so it really doesn't matter if you go over or under, so when you pull over, the racquet naturally moves the handle out of the way for the pull.

 

LOBALOT

Legend
No, that's not true - the string to be tensioned is only affected once on the left and once on the right. The slant is not very much - all is well.

I am not sure what I am thinking Sorry about that. I am not feeling well and think my head is in a fog.
 

gtwosweet

New User
Thanks are you sure? Doing a quick calculation of the cosine assuming a 15 degree angle I got a 50 lb tension = roughly 48 lbs. I don't want to make a big deal of this but I did see it when I strung with the machine but you guys know more than me.
I use the yusuki method to start the string job, pulling both mains then set my first clamp and then with a starting clamp on the other end, then I retention each of the mains to my desire tension for actuate tensioning.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
I use the yusuki method to start the string job, pulling both mains then set my first clamp and then with a starting clamp on the other end, then I retention each of the mains to my desire tension for actuate tensioning.

The method one uses to start the mains will not make a difference. You are still going to end up with center mains and a pull with the handle in the way of the tension head which then travels up and clonks into the handle. Thus you have to turn the racquet a bit so the head is to one side or the other.

This is unrelated to the method used to start the mains.

Next time I have an opportunity I will try to catch a video. It will probably not be until late winter/early spring though.
 

gtwosweet

New User
I've checked my tension with an ERT300. You mention that you set your tension at 50lbs but only got 48 lbs when your finished. I always checked the DT as soon as it comes off the machine.never had a problem with my main strings being off by two pounds. So I don't have any other answer for you, but there are other factors on this equation like the calibration maybe off or the type of strings being used because some strings tend to lose tension as soon as it comes off the machine. Just my two cents.
 

fritzhimself

Hall of Fame
I've checked my tension with an ERT300. You mention that you set your tension at 50lbs but only got 48 lbs when your finished. I always checked the DT as soon as it comes off the machine.never had a problem with my main strings being off by two pounds. So I don't have any other answer for you, but there are other factors on this equation like the calibration maybe off or the type of strings being used because some strings tend to lose tension as soon as it comes off the machine. Just my two cents.
Your first sentence is unfortunately 100% not true - the ERT cannot measure that at all - and sorry no offense:

 

gtwosweet

New User
None taking, it's just about what my tension was set at and what reading I got from the ERT300. Unfortunately there aren't a machine out there that can measure the actual tension of a racket. This was just a baseline or how accurate your string machine is. I don't know, but as long as I get the same consistent reading as I get when my racket comes off the machine along with the reading of the ERT machine is fine by me. I'm just curious, how did you come to a conclusion that your machine was was not pulling 50lbs and that it was at 48lbs.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
I've checked my tension with an ERT300. You mention that you set your tension at 50lbs but only got 48 lbs when your finished. I always checked the DT as soon as it comes off the machine.never had a problem with my main strings being off by two pounds. So I don't have any other answer for you, but there are other factors on this equation like the calibration maybe off or the type of strings being used because some strings tend to lose tension as soon as it comes off the machine. Just my two cents.

I am sorry but that is not what I said....

Thanks are you sure? Doing a quick calculation of the cosine assuming a 15 degree angle I got a 50 lb tension = roughly 48 lbs. I don't want to make a big deal of this but I did see it when I strung with the machine but you guys know more than me.

I said I did the math not that I actually measured. I also indicated I didn't want to make a big deal of it. My point still stands that if one can keep the string and the tension head straight they will get closer to the desired tension than if they have to pull the string at an angle. With the tension head that rises up like that one has no choice but to pull the center mains at an angle compared to the other strings and those center mains are very important in my opinion for obvious reasons.
 

Wes

Hall of Fame
My point still stands that if one can keep the string and the tension head straight they will get closer to the desired tension than if they have to pull the string at an angle.
I concur. :)

With the tension head that rises up like that one has no choice but to pull the center mains at an angle compared to the other strings and those center mains are very important in my opinion for obvious reasons.
Once again... completely agree.
It's actually what I eluded to in the post below. :sneaky:

 

ebo03

New User
I use the yusuki method to start the string job, pulling both mains then set my first clamp and then with a starting clamp on the other end, then I retention each of the mains to my desire tension for actuate tensioning.
How would this work on a 16x19 frame with 8 mains in the throat like Yonex Ezone 98 Tour? Is there a way to pull straight on the center mains from the throat side? I have seen Yusuki videos but they are always with 6 mains in the throat area so I can’t seem to figure a solution for 8 mains in the throat.
 

badmice2

Professional
I have strung on one of these a couple of times. Very similar to the Ghost 2 I string on. The only thing that took me some getting used to was when starting the mains on an "8 in the throat" racquet the tension head would move up and hit the handle so I needed to position the string to the one side of it or the other.

I really liked the drawer as on my Ghost 2 I am constantly catching tools on the string as I am stringing and having to pick up tools off the floor.
This was my work around for drawers for my Ghost2.

It was a quick trip to local daiso and some Velcro strips.

IMG-3311.jpg
 

Wes

Hall of Fame
How would this work on a 16x19 frame with 8 mains in the throat like Yonex Ezone 98 Tour? Is there a way to pull straight on the center mains from the throat side? I have seen Yusuki videos but they are always with 6 mains in the throat area so I can’t seem to figure a solution for 8 mains in the throat.
@Evan Bowling,

Yes, one can certainly employ the Yusuki method on frames which have 8 holes (or just 4 holes) in the throat bridge.
I do it all the time.
However, I don't use the Solinco Falcon GT (or HEAD/Dunlop) machine - which all share the same "bird beak" type tension head which raises up.

If one has this type of tensioner, it presents certain issues (which is just one of the reasons why I, personally, wouldn't choose a machine of this design). See link in post #26 above.

So... what machine are you actually using?
Is it indeed a Solinco, HEAD, or Dunlop machine... or something else?

Once I know exactly which machine you're using, I can share a video of how to best handle your specific situation.

BTW, I presume that you already have a starting clamp to utilize.
Otherwise, you likely wouldn't be mentioning the Yusuki method.

Cheers, Wes
 

ebo03

New User
@Evan Bowling,

Yes, one can certainly employ the Yusuki method on frames which have 8 holes (or just 4 holes) in the throat bridge.
I do it all the time.
However, I don't use the Solinco Falcon GT (or HEAD/Dunlop) machine - which all share the same "bird beak" type tension head which raises up.

If one has this type of tensioner, it presents certain issues (which is just one of the reasons why I, personally, wouldn't choose a machine of this design). See link in post #26 above.

So... what machine are you actually using?
Is it indeed a Solinco, HEAD, or Dunlop machine... or something else?

Once I know exactly which machine you're using, I can share a video of how to best handle your specific situation.

BTW, I presume that you already have a starting clamp to utilize.
Otherwise, you likely wouldn't be mentioning the Yusuki method.

Cheers, Wes
I currently have a Gamma Progression II ELS but I am thinking hard about buying a Solinco machine, hence the question. Yes, I have a starting clamp which gets frequent use.

EDIT: I purchased the Solinco machine today.
 
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LOBALOT

Legend
This was my work around for drawers for my Ghost2.

It was a quick trip to local daiso and some Velcro strips.

IMG-3311.jpg

Looks great. I tried one of those 3M stick-on gizmos on the side but it was too small to hold the tools and they were falling out. I think it was this one...


Between hooking string on the tools and just general clumsiness I am constantly dropping tools on the floor.
 

Soundbyte

Hall of Fame
I currently have a Gamma Progression II ELS but I am thinking hard about buying a Solinco machine, hence the question. Yes, I have a starting clamp which gets frequent use.

EDIT: I purchased the Solinco machine today.
Did you get a deal on it? How much did you get it for (and from where)?
 

ebo03

New User
Did you get a deal on it? How much did you get it for (and from where)?
You can only buy directly from Solinco as far as I know. They are offering free shipping leading up to Christmas but not exactly a deal otherwise. Here’s the order form.
 

bertotherobo

New User
I currently have a Gamma Progression II ELS but I am thinking hard about buying a Solinco machine, hence the question. Yes, I have a starting clamp which gets frequent use.

EDIT: I purchased the Solinco machine today.
does it come with a cover to protect from dust when not in use?
 
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