New StringSnapper video

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
This video actually makes the 1 year video anniversary for me (and also one year since i joined here).

Rallying from 00:00 to 11:35

11:37-11:50 pirate boat spotted

11:50-16:34 point play including serves


What do you think? In the 6 months from the last video i've worked on the forehand, serve and serve return the most probably. BTW my footwork is lazy / there were a lot of balls i let go because i have a groin strain from 5 days ago. I feel like my forehand technique still isn't quite right, but i maybe i am "throwing the racquet at the ball" more / driving through contact more. What do you think guys? @J011yroger @nytennisaddict @FiReFTW@ChaelAZ @TennisProdigy @Shroud

Compare to 6 months ago: Is there noticeable improvement?

Compare to 1 year ago:
 
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Curious

Legend
So it's possible to split step in rec tennis.:) Good job mate. I have recently been discussing that leg drive on the serve is overrated but I think I might be wrong! Get some leg action, man.:p
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
This video actually makes the 1 year video anniversary for me (and also one year since i joined here).

Rallying from 00:00 to 11:35

11:37-11:50 pirate boat spotted

11:50-16:34 point play including serves


What do you think? In the 6 months from the last video i've worked on the forehand, serve and serve return the most probably. BTW my footwork is lazy / there were a lot of balls i let go because i have a groin strain from 5 days ago. I feel like my forehand technique still isn't quite right, but i maybe i am "throwing the racquet at the ball" more / driving through contact more. What do you think guys? @J011yroger @nytennisaddict @FiReFTW

Compare to 6 months ago: Is there noticeable improvement?

Compare to 1 year ago:
Confession: I fast forwarded to pirate boat first.

Nice play ... a low UE ttw match with point construction and a bunch of hits in each point. Who knew it could happen, hope it catches on.

What an awesome backdrop for a tennis court. It seems most of your videos have 30+ mph winds and an exotic bird sanctuary around the court. If that doesn't teach concentration, nothing will.
 

NuBas

Legend
Where do you live, where's that court?

You look much calmer than I remember. Nice slow deliberate strokes and better feel for the ball. Movement isn't all over the place, its bit slow but more purposeful.
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Confession: I fast forwarded to pirate boat first.

Nice play ... a low UE ttw match with point construction and a bunch of hits in each point. Who knew it could happen, hope it catches on.

What an awesome backdrop for a tennis court. It seems most of your videos have 30+ mph winds and an exotic bird sanctuary around the court. If that doesn't teach concentration, nothing will.
Lol yeah @NuBas I live in Perth (Australia) 2nd windiest city in the world

It's been a shocker season for wind.. yesterday was actually low winds by our standards.
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
There is a significant lack of ESR on your serve. Don't know how to fix it.
Yeah I know it's driving me nuts. Still, serve looks better than 1 year ago lol. More leg drive would help you're right, but I can't push up much with this groin strain. Any sudden movements or running forward /backward is severely hampered. Split stepping and anticipation becomes more crucial
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
So it's possible to split step in rec tennis.:) Good job mate. I have recently been discussing that leg drive on the serve is overrated but I think I might be wrong! Get some leg action, man.:p
I think actually that would be good for you, put all your effort into split stepping / positioning / anticipating... all the little micro adjustment stuff. Pre emptive and dictating play. IMO all injuries seem to come from defensive reactionary play. Lunging, chasing down drop shots etc
 

NuBas

Legend
Yep gonna go see him play Tsipas at the hopman cup in 10 days or so. Maybe I'll film it for tt! Saw him demolish Gasquet a few years back in under an hour lol. He hit the ball flatter than I expected
Take a selfie with a Quaka? Quacker I dno what they call it.
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
I'm thinking maybe on my forehand i need to focus on extension through contact more, hitting more on the rise and out in front before it gets too high/late (i seem to do this better on my backhand), what are your thoughts @J011yroger ?

Maybe its also part of knowing when to do this. For example on my 1hbh if the shot is super low, wide or weird spin i usually go for a slice because timing is easier. I try to only unload when the opportunity presents itself

But for the forehand, there is this penetrating extension unloading shot... but it looks very similar to a looping topspin shot that is used more when im out of position (as opposed to the backhand, where the out of position shot is waaaay different, since its a slice). What should i do when i'm out of position or the ball is super low? just go for lots of spin? Forehand slice (i do this more now)? Maybe the idea is that i get better at hitting on the rise off this wing and thumping a more penetrating shot, that im not out of position as much - so its either a thumping topspin or a forehand slice.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
I'm thinking maybe on my forehand i need to focus on extension through contact more, hitting more on the rise and out in front before it gets too high/late (i seem to do this better on my backhand), what are your thoughts @J011yroger ?

Maybe its also part of knowing when to do this. For example on my 1hbh if the shot is super low, wide or weird spin i usually go for a slice because timing is easier. I try to only unload when the opportunity presents itself

But for the forehand, there is this penetrating extension unloading shot... but it looks very similar to a looping topspin shot that is used more when im out of position (as opposed to the backhand, where the out of position shot is waaaay different, since its a slice). What should i do when i'm out of position or the ball is super low? just go for lots of spin? Forehand slice (i do this more now)? Maybe the idea is that i get better at hitting on the rise off this wing and thumping a more penetrating shot, that im not out of position as much - so its either a thumping topspin or a forehand slice.
Do you think your hand should end up higher on your 1hbh follow through ... at least on more shots? (same for me if I ever work on my 1hbh again). I was looking at Fed's and Wawrinka's 1hbhs slow motion ... and the lead shoulder is higher than back shoulder by contact (from rotation), and then arm/hand finishes in line with shoulder line. This ends with hand around head level or higher.
 

aimr75

Hall of Fame
Do you think your hand should end up higher on your 1hbh follow through ... at least on more shots? (same for me if I ever work on my 1hbh again). I was looking at Fed's and Wawrinka's 1hbhs slow motion ... and the lead shoulder is higher than back shoulder by contact (from rotation), and then arm/hand finishes in line with shoulder line. This ends with hand around head level or higher.
The swing path does seem too horizontal. Probably opening up too much as well.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
First thing that jumps out at me is your posture and spacing.

You dip your shoulder on the forehand and bend at the waist on the backhand.

Make an effort to stay low and level with your shoulders parallel to the ground and your back straight up and down.

Tons of balls you were reaching for or jammed by.

I'll watch more tomorrow but you need to be the right distance from the ball, and balanced with good posture before trying to change the stroke.

J
 
Frame rate too slow for the faster motions of the serve.

I don't see an angle between the forearm and racket. Is there one for any serve?

Does the racket turn enough before impact? After impact it is easier to see ISR and or pronation.

Needs high speed video for the serve.
 

onehandbh

Legend
Looks like you could use more shoulder/torso turn on both sides.

Seem to be swinging hard but mostly from arms.
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
First thing that jumps out at me is your posture and spacing.

You dip your shoulder on the forehand and bend at the waist on the backhand.

Make an effort to stay low and level with your shoulders parallel to the ground and your back straight up and down.

Tons of balls you were reaching for or jammed by.

I'll watch more tomorrow but you need to be the right distance from the ball, and balanced with good posture before trying to change the stroke.

J
thanks man I appreciate it. keeping my shoulders level is something i've focused on doing on the past actually and its worked really well - just haven't been consistent with it. i'll keep it in mind!
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Do you think your hand should end up higher on your 1hbh follow through ... at least on more shots? (same for me if I ever work on my 1hbh again). I was looking at Fed's and Wawrinka's 1hbhs slow motion ... and the lead shoulder is higher than back shoulder by contact (from rotation), and then arm/hand finishes in line with shoulder line. This ends with hand around head level or higher.
not sure, my backhand really feels like my technically superior stroke. I can hit on the rise with it well, and I can add topspin too. But yeah it was looking pretty flat on film which is hilarious, cos my mate who i hit with said he felt like my forehand was flatter than my backhand.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
Those are some crazy winds specialy at the start.

So @StringSnapper I assume you cut out some footage here and this is not every single point you played in succession?

I find it a bit hard to believe that you made one single unforced error in all this playtime with that flat forehand of yours.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
not sure, my backhand really feels like my technically superior stroke. I can hit on the rise with it well, and I can add topspin too. But yeah it was looking pretty flat on film which is hilarious, cos my mate who i hit with said he felt like my forehand was flatter than my backhand.
Yes ... meant to say your bh looks solid, just an observation that I also see in my 1hbh video. My hand gets higher than yours on some of my 1hbh, but I have always had a horizontal swing on 1hbh. I might experiment some with 1hbh in spring, I intend to hit it on dtl on perfect height (2hbh everything else other than slice).

Interesting that @J011yroger said horizontal shoulders. When I was just looking at Fed and Wawrinka 1hbhs ... they often have shoulder line tilted forward at backswing, then with rotation shoulder line switches to tilted up before contact. I will gets some pics and create a thread on it ... maybe later in the week.
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Those are some crazy winds specialy at the start.

So @StringSnapper I assume you cut out some footage here and this is not every single point you played in succession?

I find it a bit hard to believe that you made one single unforced error in all this playtime with that flat forehand of yours.
I counted 3 unforced forehand errors in the first half then stopped lol. I did edit out some shorter rallies, the video was mostly rallying (we didn't play any sets). But generally we are pretty consistent players.. I want to play like Wawrinka "consistent aggression"

Btw is my forehand that flat?? Seems to cross the net by at least another nets height. I'm using a semi western grip
 

FiReFTW

Legend
I counted 3 unforced forehand errors in the first half then stopped lol. I did edit out some shorter rallies, the video was mostly rallying (we didn't play any sets). But generally we are pretty consistent players.. I want to play like Wawrinka "consistent aggression"

Btw is my forehand that flat?? Seems to cross the net by at least another nets height. I'm using a semi western grip
I only watched after pirate ship when you played points.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
Serve - your stance is too open.

You're shifting your front foot during your toss, it actually ends up nearly perpendicular to the baseline = too open of a stance.

You're not getting enough leg/hip drive.

You're not hitting the "inverted U" racket drop position.

This all results in lack of power/spin.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
Backhand - your swingpath is too horizontal, IMHO.

Compare your follow-through with your favorite BH Wawrinka. Look how high he finishes on balls that you hit much flatter...

 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Backhand - your swingpath is too horizontal, IMHO.

Compare your follow-through with your favorite BH Wawrinka. Look how high he finishes on balls that you hit much flatter...

Sorry ... I beat you to it. 8-B

Edit: I wouldn't recommend that follow through above to Snapper ... but hand should end up at least around ear on some strokes. I need to work on this too if I hit more 1hbhs.
 
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StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Serve - your stance is too open.

You're shifting your front foot during your toss, it actually ends up nearly perpendicular to the baseline = too open of a stance.

You're not getting enough leg/hip drive.

You're not hitting the "inverted U" racket drop position.

This all results in lack of power/spin.
Yeah fully agree with these points. My open stance was actually cos I was getting hip pain and that made it go away. Stans serve looks pretty open too actually. But he has a great U drop and super strong arm.

On the backhand I dunno, I rarely miss a backhand and I hit it pretty flat and fast. I think for now I will focus on serve trying to get the U and forehand... I think maybe I need a shorter take back and more lag. I'm thinking that 5oclock take back thing I need to focus on again, it forces me to rotate violently and use my core more to get power (which forces lag to happen) it's not a super commonly used stroke by the pros (it's insanely compact and more timing based) but maybe it's the best for my game.
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Oh ... forgot I was going to point out Fed's tilted shoulders in 1hbh prep. Also noticed he tends to be bent at waste at contact.

Anyone know what he gains from the forward tilt (both shoulders and waste)?

@J011yroger j011 I tried keeping my shoulders more level when I hit yesterday and I played terribly. Also check out slowmo video below of stans forehands... shoulders are not level.



I'm thinking my bh is fine - even tho its flat - because I have "checkpoint positions" and it's really grooved. My fh though I think the takeback doesn't have a solid location, I'm gonna try to make it 5oclock (as its checkpoint) and get lots of lag with my torso.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
@J011yroger j011 I tried keeping my shoulders more level when I hit yesterday and I played terribly. Also check out slowmo video below of stans forehands... shoulders are not level.



I'm thinking my bh is fine - even tho its flat - because I have "checkpoint positions" and it's really grooved. My fh though I think the takeback doesn't have a solid location, I'm gonna try to make it 5oclock (as its checkpoint) and get lots of lag with my torso.
Ok, you do whatever you want then.

J
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
On the backhand I dunno, I rarely miss a backhand and I hit it pretty flat and fast.
Well, maybe FH and serve are indeed priorities.

But, when you come back around to working on the 1HBH, just consider that no pros (to my knowledge) have a swingpath like your shots at 0:18 or 0:44...
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Ok, you do whatever you want then.

J
lol ... come on man, you are our 5.0 leader that knows what you are talking about. You can't leave us hanging like that. :eek:

This 1hbh shoulder tilt thing has got me curious. I will start a thread on it ... I think I see why your "level shoulders" and "shoulders not level with the ground" can both be correct. Say what???? :p
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
lol ... come on man, you are our 5.0 leader that knows what you are talking about. You can't leave us hanging like that. :eek:

This 1hbh shoulder tilt thing has got me curious. I will start a thread on it ... I think I see why your "level shoulders" and "shoulders not level with the ground" can both be correct. Say what???? :p
It's not universal advice, it was specific to the OP who looks like he is going to fall over when he hits the ball, but not my problem. He asked I answered, he disagreed, I'm done.

J
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
It's not universal advice, it was specific to the OP who looks like he is going to fall over when he hits the ball, but not my problem. He asked I answered, he disagreed, I'm done.

J
No man.... you are our best advice. Snapper is trying to understand (and BBP) ... not challenge you. Well.... sometimes we challenge in order to get schooled. :p I have just started my thread ... please post there.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
This video actually makes the 1 year video anniversary for me (and also one year since i joined here).

Rallying from 00:00 to 11:35

11:37-11:50 pirate boat spotted

11:50-16:34 point play including serves


What do you think? In the 6 months from the last video i've worked on the forehand, serve and serve return the most probably. BTW my footwork is lazy / there were a lot of balls i let go because i have a groin strain from 5 days ago. I feel like my forehand technique still isn't quite right, but i maybe i am "throwing the racquet at the ball" more / driving through contact more. What do you think guys? @J011yroger @nytennisaddict @FiReFTW@ChaelAZ @TennisProdigy @Shroud

Compare to 6 months ago: Is there noticeable improvement?

Compare to 1 year ago:

Caught this the other day on YT. GORGEOUS courts! Where is this?

Nice plays and like the points. Thanks for posting SS.
 
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