New study shows that grunting give you 10% more power and slows your opponents' reactions

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Emitting a high-decibel grunt or squeal while striking a backhand or uncorking a swirling roundhouse kick could substantially increase the power of that movement and sneakily bedevil your opponent.

A revelatory new study finds that yelling during sports could have greater benefits for performance than many of us might expect, even if it might cause spectators to look aghast and cover their ears.

Grunting during physical activities that demand sudden short, sharp bursts of power, such as weight training, is common and probably has been used since our prehistoric ancestors hefted stones or heaved projectiles.

Tennis players are particularly famous for grunting. Their shouts with each serve and stroke can be so loud that some players, including Martina Navratilova, have declared that the noise is a form of cheating, meant to confound the other player and not to increase the power of a stroke.

But there has been limited past scientific scrutiny of the impacts of grunting. A 2014 study of college tennis players determined that grunting could indeed increase the power of players’ groundstrokes and serves. And a study from 2010 found that such sounds can be distracting for others. In that study, participants watched videos of a tennis player striking the ball while a loud, grunt-like yell played or did not. The viewers pressed keys to indicate their snap judgments about which side of the court, right or left, the ball was heading toward. When the stroke coincided with the noise, the viewers were noticeably slower and more inaccurate in their picks.

But those studies could not determine whether the usefulness of grunting was confined only to tennis or how the ballistic squawks were affecting onlookers and opponents. Were the screams masking the sound of the racket striking the ball, making it difficult for people to judge the right trajectories? Or were the sounds more directly distracting people, drawing their attention away from the onrushing ball and befuddling their reactions?

To learn more, some of the same scientists decided, for the new experiment, which was published last month in PLOS One, to look closely at mixed martial arts and grunting.

They chose that sport for several reasons, the first being that, like tennis, it demands sudden, explosive movements, meaning punches and kicks, to which grunting conceivably could add power.

Perhaps even more important, martial arts moves do not involve inherent noise, unlike the ping of a tennis racket meeting a ball. So if an onlooker proved to be worse at judging a fast-approaching kick when someone grunted, it would be because the yell had directly confused the watcher, not because it had masked some other noise.

The researchers began by recruiting 20 local recreational martial arts practitioners, both male and female, and having them kick a specially prepared heavy bag. The bag contained a device that measured force.

In separate sessions, the athletes kicked the bag multiple times while producing a mighty, oomphing yell or remaining silent.

The researchers also videotaped some of the kicks in close-up.

Then they gathered 22 undergraduate students and had them watch the videos, which showed the athletes’ feet advancing toward the viewers at intimidating speed. The students had to rapidly decide whether the kick would land high or low and press a corresponding computer key.

During about half of the kicks, a sound like a grunt (standardized to avoid changes in volume or pitch) accompanied the motion. Otherwise the videos were quiet.

The researchers then checked all of the data.

They found that grunting while kicking had definitely improved the martial artists’ power. They had generated about 10 percent more force with each kick while yelling.

The noise also had affected viewers, although not favorably. They had proven to be much slower in responding and more prone to errors in judging direction when the kick had come with a grunt.

These results indicate that “the advantage that a grunter gains” in terms of impacts on an opponent “are due to distraction” and not to other, useful sounds being drowned out, says Scott Sinnett, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, who led this study and one of the earlier experiments with tennis players.

The findings also show that grunting is beneficial for upping power, he says, which undercuts the argument that it is a kind of cheating. If it only bothered opponents, he says, it might be considered unfair.

But making a noise does amplify force and is not banned by sports governing bodies, so can be considered a useful and sporting competitive tool.

Of course, this experiment was conducted in a laboratory, not a real-world competition, and with martial-arts athletes. The results do not show whether grunting loudly in other situations and sports would produce the same results.

It is unlikely, for instance, that grunting would be beneficial in long-distance running or walking, which require little explosive force, Dr. Sinnett says (although yelling at random moments would be likely to surprise and worry your training partners).

This study also cannot tell us whether consciously deciding to scream during sports would be beneficial, if noise is not natural to you. You might wind up distracting yourself with your grunts and playing worse, Dr. Sinnett says.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/...ights-grunt-grunting-noise.html?smid=tw-share
 
If Fed grunted he would have 40 slams by now and 5 CYGS in row.
And he'd have 80% fewer fans.

He would also have about 75% fewer endorsements. A spokesman for refined products like Lindt, Mercedes, Rolex and Moet does not grunt while striking a tennis ball. Grunting is one of the worst things that has happened to tennis in the last 20 years. The women's game is absolute torture with all that shrieking.
 
And he'd have 80% fewer fans.

He would also have about 75% fewer endorsements. A spokesman for refined products like Lindt, Mercedes, Rolex and Moet does not grunt while striking a tennis ball. Grunting is one of the worst things that has happened to tennis in the last 20 years. The women's game is absolute torture with all that shrieking.

Fed actually does a dainty little grunt on his second serve.
 
That's true, but usually only late in matches or when he's fatigued. There are countless players who grunt on every single shot. We don't have to name them. :oops:

That grunt is fairly subdued, too. Nothing like a high-pitched shriek or a protracted yell. Federer's rally ball grunt is actually quite meaty, but he only does it when exerting extra physical force to hit a powerful ball from out of position, which is a rare sight. That, or when he's really tired, which happens occasionally now into old age.
 
That grunt is fairly subdued, too. Nothing like a high-pitched shriek or a protracted yell. Federer's rally ball grunt is actually quite meaty, but he only does it when exerting extra physical force to hit a powerful ball from out of position, which is a rare sight. That, or when he's really tired, which happens occasionally now into old age.
Something like this:
PS: Dat Roland Garros 2011 final had some serious grunting by Roger.
 
did that once as well, but got my membership rescinded from that tennis club

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And he'd have 80% fewer fans.

He would also have about 75% fewer endorsements. A spokesman for refined products like Lindt, Mercedes, Rolex and Moet does not grunt while striking a tennis ball. Grunting is one of the worst things that has happened to tennis in the last 20 years. The women's game is absolute torture with all that shrieking.
I don't think Rafa has 80% less fans than Fed or 75% less money. More like 30% and 25%.
 
And he'd have 80% fewer fans.

He would also have about 75% fewer endorsements. A spokesman for refined products like Lindt, Mercedes, Rolex and Moet does not grunt while striking a tennis ball. Grunting is one of the worst things that has happened to tennis in the last 20 years. The women's game is absolute torture with all that shrieking.
I have a question: How long will you keep dodging me on here?
 
Could this just be a placebo? You obviously can't blind the players to the conditions. Knowing that their shots should theoretically be harder when grunting could be an alternative explanation.
 
Slight problem. If grunting helps you hit the ball harder, why dont golfers grunt when hitting drives?

If you could hit it 10% further, you think they would for sure......

Which player has the manliest grunt?
Not Rafa for sure.

A lot of the girls have a more manly grunt than Rafa :confused:
 
Fairly confident if they banned grunting one of those fancy constipational lawyers there in the US would take it to the Supreme Court under the First Amendment.
 
!!! Omg.. That means if Federer was a grunter then he would probably be sitting on 25 slams at least, with that added power!
 
Looong time ago, in Nick Bollettieri camp (during Agassi time, way before it became IMG), I remember one of their coaches used to tell players in the camp to grunt lightly during impact for more energy. Maybe all the NB graduates grunt in general, don't know.
 
I never purposely tried to grunt, put as I push my serve out and my body flexes forward, the air in my lungs is forced out quickly, sometimes just air sound, an I get let call, other times slight grunt. In can see how it happens but never long drawn out soliloquy like some
 
Grunting is only useful when you are trying to exert maximum force. You do not hit many shots with maximum force. Grunters use it to distract because they need every advantage they can get. Most of the time it should be ruled a hindrance.
 
Federer is worth $450 million and operates a successful charity aiding children in Africa.

Nadal is worth $140 million.
Good grief. Is that what Federer fans really believe? :confused: Rafa's Academy is worth that much alone and that doesn't count all his hotels, resorts, restaurants, and scads of other business investments. I have no idea which of Fed or Rafa has the larger investment portfolio but I wouldn't be surprised if it's Rafa because his father is a very astute businessman who built the Nadals up from middle class to very rich before Rafa started pulling in millions more for his dad to play with. As to charities, Rafa's Foundation is very very active and besides his school in India he has several facilities and dozens of endeavours in Spain that are growing in influence and popularity every year plus it's expanding to Mexico and China with more big plans in the works. One thing that Fed has that Rafa doesn't is a good p.r. firm that makes sure the media gets all sorts of publicity on Fed's African school while Rafa just keeps plugging along creating and giving and helping without looking for publicity.
 
Good grief. Is that what Federer fans really believe? :confused: Rafa's Academy is worth that much alone and that doesn't count all his hotels, resorts, restaurants, and scads of other business investments. I have no idea which of Fed or Rafa has the larger investment portfolio but I wouldn't be surprised if it's Rafa because his father is a very astute businessman who built the Nadals up from middle class to very rich before Rafa started pulling in millions more for his dad to play with. As to charities, Rafa's Foundation is very very active and besides his school in India he has several facilities and dozens of endeavours in Spain that are growing in influence and popularity every year plus it's expanding to Mexico and China with more big plans in the works. One thing that Fed has that Rafa doesn't is a good p.r. firm that makes sure the media gets all sorts of publicity on Fed's African school while Rafa just keeps plugging along creating and giving and helping without looking for publicity.

Nadals academy has a value of 1 years tuition for 2500 players? Dream on. Is he also the sole owner and only shareholder in the company? Talk about delusional.

Rafas charity provides for 100 children some sports activities.

Feds has over 300k children involved in education, mainly in africa.

Are you honestly comparing the two?
 
Grunting is only useful when you are trying to exert maximum force. You do not hit many shots with maximum force. Grunters use it to distract because they need every advantage they can get. Most of the time it should be ruled a hindrance.

I liked your post but disagree with the first sentence. Maximum force is hard to define, and it more or less excludes any form of control, you know, there are lines and a net. If you are elated with a win you can hit the ball as far and high as you like, and that would be a candidate for maximum force, but I am not sure if letting out a grunt or scream would have to accompany that.

Weight-lifters hold their breath as they press with maximum force, the scream is after the performance.
 
Nadals academy has a value of 1 years tuition for 2500 players? Dream on. Is he also the sole owner and only shareholder in the company? Talk about delusional.

Rafas charity provides for 100 children some sports activities.

Feds has over 300k children involved in education, mainly in africa.

Are you honestly comparing the two?
You really should quit now. Your lack of knowledge about Rafa is embarrassing but at least your name fits you.
 
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