smithie
Professional
I’ll post it on Monday. I got to about 500 words and thought. Wow this is long :/
New Technifibre T-Fight 2025
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Thanks! Interesting noticing your picture now.. Im currently using a vcore and am considering the switch to the 305s (although I will also try the blade)
I got the 300s, added 8g lead to handle and 1g to 9 and 3 (total 2g), total weight with dampener and overgrip is now 331g and balance 32.5cm.
What a great feeling racket, have played with dr98, vcore 95 2018, vcore pro 97 hd and latest dunlop cx 400 tour with similar specs than this new 300s tfight.
More power, maneurability and spin is great, the pattern is similar in the middle as in the cx 400 tour, but the overall spacing is little wider.
I need to play more to get the timing and shots dialed in and maybe add more lead to get the stability, now it feels that racket is twisting in the off center shots and if I am guiding the ball in the they are going long. Still the extra power and spin is addictive and my shots are heavier.
Handle is wider and I swapped the base grip and removed the tape from the sides (left the tape to top and bottom sides), which made the grip feel more similar to yonex and dunlop handles. I am interested in trying the 305s model, which I am thinking of buying mainly to get the tighter string spacing in the middle for extra control.
I have also played with percept 100d, vcore pro 97 and newer ezones, but I dont like the vdm or muted feeling at all.
What a great feeling racket, have played with dr98, vcore 95 2018, vcore pro 97 hd and latest dunlop cx 400 tour with similar specs than this new 300s tfight.
More power, maneurability and spin is great, the pattern is similar in the middle as in the cx 400 tour, but the overall spacing is little wider.
I need to play more to get the timing and shots dialed in and maybe add more lead to get the stability, now it feels that racket is twisting in the off center shots and if I am guiding the ball in the they are going long. Still the extra power and spin is addictive and my shots are heavier.
Handle is wider and I swapped the base grip and removed the tape from the sides (left the tape to top and bottom sides), which made the grip feel more similar to yonex and dunlop handles. I am interested in trying the 305s model, which I am thinking of buying mainly to get the tighter string spacing in the middle for extra control.
I have also played with percept 100d, vcore pro 97 and newer ezones, but I dont like the vdm or muted feeling at all.
What would you say if you compare it with dunlop cx400 tour?
Cx400 tour has more classic, controlled feel (like the vcore 95 and vcore pro 97hd) with boxier and wider 23mm beam. 300s has more power and spin potential and stringbed feels more responsive.
Currently my cx400 seems to have more twistweight, so need to play more to adjust it at the same level. I like to play with cx400 tour but would like to have more controlled power to go for winners, 23mm throat feels maybe to wide when holding the racket it does not affect playing wise. I use 1.25 hyper g with 23kg and play three times a week.
Currently my cx400 seems to have more twistweight, so need to play more to adjust it at the same level. I like to play with cx400 tour but would like to have more controlled power to go for winners, 23mm throat feels maybe to wide when holding the racket it does not affect playing wise. I use 1.25 hyper g with 23kg and play three times a week.
200km/hour sure... is it u andy rodick? i didnt know former atp players are chating on tw forums .
gutfeeling
Hall of Fame
Why is that so hard to believe? What if I told you he used to train with Borna?
smithie
Professional
Which Vcore are you using, the 95? If so @galapagos and I were talking today so I’ll post a snippet about my Vcore 95 issues that weren’t present in the 305s below (hopefully it helps). In terms of the blade, I found the 18x20 to be vastly superior over the 16x19, so if you’re coming from a background of tighter string patterns I would imagine you would to.
“As you can now see, I got the 305s in the end and used it yesterday for the first time. I am planning on putting a full review up in the T-Fight thread but in short its a potential switch from the Vcore 95 - I just need to see if the honeymoon period ends.
I've had a few minor issues with the Vcore 95 that I thought I could solve with lead or by changing strings but after 2 years I still haven't got it how I would like it. I've had three main issues with the Vcore 95:
1. Slices, when out of position or rushed, just sit up, which in doubles results in too many lost points. Generally, the only way I can get slices to penetrate the court with the Vcore 95 is to put my full body behind it, but this is something I can't do on defensive shots.
2. Again on the backhand, the natural rhythm of my OHBH is ever so slightly off, specifically with the racket drop and bringing it through to the contact point. I assume its related to MGR/l (i.e. the push/pull feeling) but no matter how I move weight around, it doesn't feel like the racket naturally wants to comes through to the contact point. Its a really weird feeling, the best way to describe it is that when I initiate the racket drop, the racket almost feels weightless and seems like it doesn't have the momentum to naturally come through to the contact point; which makes me feel like I need to pull it through.
3. Launch angle is too high for me (being used to rackets with 18x20 string patterns and 8 mains in the throat). To be fair, I actually think this is more a byproduct of the aerodynamics/speed of the racket making it feel like I need to adopt a more modern window wiper motion rather than my relatively flat and penetration based stroke that I'm used to.
First outing was nothing but positive all my issues that I mentioned about the Vcore 95 above were solved instantly, and to be honest, I couldn't really fault it. I am being cautious in case its just the 'honeymoon period' but if it continues I will likely switch.”
98 here. Never tried tight string patterns, only 16x19.
Inflated reviews on 305S. Come on, how can stability number increase with much lower swing weight compared to outgoing model, everything else being almost identical ? They say wanting more mass, wanting more spin in “dislikes”, but huge ratings wow. Hopefully it doesn’t get into textreme tour 98 category of more scores but less sales… just so overhyped..
outgoing model is way too good with leather grip plus strung at low tension.
outgoing model is way too good with leather grip plus strung at low tension.
Cayenne321
Rookie
A lot of YouTube reviews have mentioned spin potential to be roughly equal and some even say more than the 300s, so I'm not surprised to see that on the scores.
Stability supposedly coming from slightly stiffer and wider hoop, where the taper was squared off to become boxier (images earlier in thread). Weight shifted more to the balance point probably helps too.
I didn't play with the previous model but they sound different enough to be treated like a different line.
Stability supposedly coming from slightly stiffer and wider hoop, where the taper was squared off to become boxier (images earlier in thread). Weight shifted more to the balance point probably helps too.
I didn't play with the previous model but they sound different enough to be treated like a different line.
longtimelurker
Professional
The tec push reminds me of when the babolat strike line came. Reviews are done super quick while other loved frames are on the back burner for write ups. High scores too.... great frames yes, but end of the day it is all business
*The write up from Chris is what I read, more realistic.
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*The write up from Chris is what I read, more realistic.
Tecnifibre TFight 305S
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galapagos
Hall of Fame
Slightly stiffer and thicker beam. Imo it would be perfect at 305g/320mm or 310g/315mm but other than that I think 90 % of the amateur players won’t need any more stability than the 305s is now offering. ISO was an overkill. I love it but ye…in terms of general public it was too specific.
I customize my 305s
Vicious49
Legend
There's nothing inflated about it. The previous one wasn't useable for most players with that SW and balance. I'm going to have better stability with the new one if I'm actually able to hit out in front which I couldn't do with the previous one.
This one has plenty of stability. As @galapagos stated most of us won't ever need more stability than the 305s offers.
As soon as I demo'd this one I gelled with it more than any frame I've come across in my holic'ing. It could be that it's perfect for my game and others may not have the same experience.
Stubborn frenchies think they know best as usual...they actually said everyone loves their grip shape cause they asked, that's why it's same...they must of asked 60+ year old french dudes with one continental grip for everything
It absolutely does, more so than the average consensus on this forum might lead one to believe. From tweeners to pleeners, the 300g 100 16x19 is a go-to for most rec adult males, as well as some females.
extreme_western
Rookie
anyone have any thoughts on how these rackets compare to the babolat pure control tour and blade pro 16 19? And also on whether it's better to weight up the 300 or go for the 315 if you want more handle weight?
Vicious49
Legend
I didnt try the 315 this time. But with the previous version I preferred getting the 300 and weighting it up myself. That way you arent at the mercy of QC and it gives you a ton of flexibility.
You cant use that trick if you want a 305 or want to start with the 305 as that one is weighted and balanced differently than the others.
Vicious49
Legend
Adding on to my last reply. While I don't agree at all with your opinion that the 305s is overhyped, I do think the 300s is getting unsustainable hype. I had posted this previously in another thread:
"I find it interesting that the TF 300S is getting so much hype and traction in the Tfight thread at the moment. I've played with the ISO300 and RS300 and this one isn't that different. Oak in the new 300S review said he actually prefers the ISO300 model. Not sure why this model is garnering so much attention now. I have a feeling it's a new release thing and once the novelty dies down it will just be the 305S that ends up retaining any of this initial hype."
leojramirez
Semi-Pro
Im a 300 iso user with 4g at the handle and 2g each at 2&10. Just got my 300s but needs to be strung. Will let you know next week. I played the 305s on demo, its very head light which im not used to anymore. I left some notes above, TLDR not many pros that would make me switch to it.
FoldingChair
Semi-Pro
I tried a friend’s 305s for a hitting session and was pleasantly surprised. I’d never tried a tecnifibre frame before nor a 18x19. Just out of curiosity, in the hierarchy of racquet company QC how does tecnifibre stack up if I was to pick up 2-3 305s at random? Is matching service definitely the way to go?
I have no experience whatsoever with TF but in this thread Ive seen multiple ppl telling about issues with QC in this frame..
Ill be buying one with matching service for sure
Vicious49
Legend
TF has always had QC issues in the past. That's why I ordered 3 305s from TW this time hoping I'd get 1 that was on spec or maybe 2 that were close to each other. My specs are listed here in an earlier post but I ended up with 2 that were identical to each other and a 3rd one that was pretty similar. They just needed 1-2 g of lead in the hoop to get the SW up to spec so I'm pretty happy. 2 of them I'm running at a SW of 320 and the 3rd I am running at 325SW now so I can experiment.
I prefer the 305S to the Gravity Tour. In fact I just traded/sold my GT98s. They're both great rackets, but the Tec just seems better to me overall. More predictable, more solid, less launchy. Also no whistle!
If I didn't get the Tec 305S at the same time I got the GT98, I probably would have continued to use the GT98.
But I didn't see the reason to keep both when I would rather reach for the 305S everytime. But if you like the Gravity Tour 98, this is certainly something to look for.
But also keep in mind, I absolutely HATED the Speed MP. That racket was so muted that I hit with it for 10 mins and sold for a good loss to a local college kid.
The Ace Tennis 305S video came up on my YT feed.
Watched the whole thing and gotta say what a great (detailed) review, as always, plus some nice hitting with the lady friend on the other side of the court.
I haven’t hit with the 305S but I think I have done enough with the ISO305, so I can understand his comparisons between the two.
In the end, both have scored an average of 88 points - looking at the individual scores, I think the ISO305 is still the one for me, as these ones matters to me, for now.
But then again, maybe I will pick one or two sometime down the road. The main priority is to settle in (again) with a particular frame type/match setup, as I need to get more match winning sets for the resume of the summer season. lol.
Watched the whole thing and gotta say what a great (detailed) review, as always, plus some nice hitting with the lady friend on the other side of the court.
I haven’t hit with the 305S but I think I have done enough with the ISO305, so I can understand his comparisons between the two.
In the end, both have scored an average of 88 points - looking at the individual scores, I think the ISO305 is still the one for me, as these ones matters to me, for now.
But then again, maybe I will pick one or two sometime down the road. The main priority is to settle in (again) with a particular frame type/match setup, as I need to get more match winning sets for the resume of the summer season. lol.
Blade_X
Professional
How did it go ?
See, and i disagree with this. Everyone is talking about how special the 305 is. Such a unique racquet etc etc. . But funnily enough, I have now listened to several reviewers that all were saying something along the lines of "Yes, the 305s is a more unique racquet, but if I am honest with myself, I play better with the 300s".
So yeah, if there is overhype, the 305s is surely on "the list" imo. Maybe the 300s as well, who knows. But I have heard much more hurray about the 305s then the 300s. The 18x19 stringpattern in itself is overhyped imo.
And what I find really disappointing is that almost no one is testing and reviewing the 315s. It seems it is once again the ignored stepchild.
ChrisJR3264
Legend
From someone who has used the TFight 305 95, xtc, RS and iso along with the 300 rs and iso (demo’d) and 315 iso: I can look at the specs on paper and say that it seems the only thing that has changed are the 305 specs.
I have not hit with the new 2025 version so you can take my opinion as invalid.
But let’s make some sense here. The last two versions of the 305 - many deemed unplayable due to swing weight and plenty of advanced players love the 18x19 while hating 18x20s. A 305 should not have 340 SW. I agreed with that statement and still do.
Looking on paper, not much has changed in the 300S and 315S. Both had very favorable reviews. Iga switched to the 300 iso paint job so they’re promoting it more this year with launching a 300 100sq in frame.
So I can agree it looks like the biggest change is to the 305 which had a 32.5 cm balance for as long as I could remember. Roman Prokes even encouraged TF with a winning string pattern in demand - to make it a bit more head light and they did.
The other versions are a paint job update with the 295 being a 300 now so I guess we can say that changed too significantly.
Out in court with the 300 again and continue to find everything about it better than my trusty speed mp. It just feels good.
The one thing I find maybe a bit lacking is out away power on flat shots. I can’t really explain it since both my backhands and serves seem to have gained power compared to the speed, but the flat low finishing shot is just not there as much. Perhaps I just can’t bring the racquet around fast enough, not sure!
Anyone else with similar feeling?
The one thing I find maybe a bit lacking is out away power on flat shots. I can’t really explain it since both my backhands and serves seem to have gained power compared to the speed, but the flat low finishing shot is just not there as much. Perhaps I just can’t bring the racquet around fast enough, not sure!
Anyone else with similar feeling?
300 98 right?
Vicious49
Legend
Have you played with any of these frames or are you just blindly questioning the reviews?
Cayenne321
Rookie
If we're honest with ourselves, almost everyone plays better with a pure drive. This doesn't make every non-pure drive overhyped.
The 18x19 point is interesting though, there seems to be a lot of buzz about a string pattern that almost no lines provide as an option. Is it the future of the 18x20 pattern? And if so, why don't more brands go down this route? 16x20 seems to be gaining traction, but 18x19 not so much.
ChrisJR3264
Legend
16x20 was a popular racket when I was growing up. Several of the current 16x19 lines now (Yonex Ezone XI, vcore tour, dual G, and vcore SV; babolat pure storms, blade steam, ) all had 16x20 patterns. It’s basically what I grew up on with the pure storm and storm tour.
18x19 is unique and tougher to use than a 16x20 from my experience. But I think a 98 16x20 or 100 sq in 18x19 would be quite unique.
It’s unfortunate TF didn’t add the 100 as an 18x19. I think that would’ve been a game changer
AAATSportingGoods
Rookie
My customizer had to add 20 grams of lead/silicone. Said the recoil weight on this was ridiculously low
ChrisJR3264
Legend
And yet Chris who’s an 18M enthusiast says he chose the 300S over 305? I sometimes can’t buy into reviews some times.
KC!
Hall of Fame
Chris made the switch from Speed Pro to the TF 100.
ChrisJR3264
Legend
Cayenne321
Rookie
Not at all surprised to see the opinions that 300/100 is the best fit for most people. Pure drive, Pure aero, Speed MP etc all best sellers for a long time.
It's been interesting following Nik's racquet testing journey because it flies in the face of popular opinion here and on so many other youtube reviews for racquets. 300g is pretty much his max weight and he's been checking out sticks in the 285-300 range, which actually lines up with what I see at rec level where most people are rocking 100L versions and a standard 300 feels like a brick to them.
Everywhere else you see a 300g review and it's "slap on a leather grip and a couple grams of lead at 3 & 9 to make it useable".
Bottle Rocket
Hall of Fame
Just got back from playing with the 305S for a few hours. My specs:
- 31.9 cm balance
- 322 swingweight with no dampener and 16l tour bite soft, 323 with dampener
- 331.7g, or 333.6 with dampener
- definitely preferred dampener on this, though I don't with my blade 18x20 V9's
It is super fun. Also stiff AF; you definitely feel off-center shots and if you totally shank it good luck. But overall it's really quite impressive and plays very light compared to my Blade's. Sweet on the one-handed backhand! More to come.
- 31.9 cm balance
- 322 swingweight with no dampener and 16l tour bite soft, 323 with dampener
- 331.7g, or 333.6 with dampener
- definitely preferred dampener on this, though I don't with my blade 18x20 V9's
It is super fun. Also stiff AF; you definitely feel off-center shots and if you totally shank it good luck. But overall it's really quite impressive and plays very light compared to my Blade's. Sweet on the one-handed backhand! More to come.
TNNSDR
Semi-Pro
... And the VCore 95D and the Wilson 95 Tour.
All amazing racquets! I am not sure how a 16x20 string pattern would play in 98 frame or bigger and if a 18x19 is not the better option in these cases. I personally did not like the Gravity MP with that string pattern. I looked at the string spacing around the sweet zone of the VCore95D (Stan the Man's racquet) and the T-Fight 305 and found out that these are almost identical.ChrisJR3264
Legend
That 16x20 in the gravity MP is just odd. Main reason why I won’t touch the 16x19 98. String spacing has to be way too open for a control frame.... And the VCore 95D and the Wilson 95 Tour.
Cayenne321
Rookie
Beckett was saying in his updated GT98 review that the centre of the stringbed is more open than any part of the stringbed on his pure aero rafa. Pretty wild.
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