@hdjs94 - What's gotten you closest to Goldilocks territory so far?
New Technifibre T-Fight 2025
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FoldingChair
Semi-Pro
If this is in reference to the 305s, I absolutely agree. In my case it’s prob more than the strings as I’m coming from a 16x19 100 head size that I’ve used for years. I’ve tried Toroline wasabi/snapper hybrid at 45/43 but it got a little wild on me. I tried GS tour sniper 1.25/snapper hybrid at 49/47 which had much better control and volleys on a dime but I want a bit more oomph on it. Next trying the solinco playtest string in the string forum (whatever it may be). Not sure what tension to go for with that one. Or full bed of tour sniper 1.25 47/45 maybe… I’m having fun with it and experimenting but definitely string sensitive stick in my experience.
- If by "oomph" you mean more bludgeoning force, add hitting weight, by bracketing the sweet spot with lead tape on the frame.
- Or, if by "oomph" you mean string bed explosiveness, consider a crisp, grippy/snappy non-p/p hybrid, something like TF Multifeel Black 1.25 mains / ultra-slick poly crosses, like Hawk 1.20 or Wasabi-X 1.23.
- Or, do both (add hitting weight and a more explosive string bed).
gino
Legend
i mean Tec feel is Tec feel. It's been criticized widely for a while now. I dont think toying around with string will fundamentally change the hitting experience. Just my opinion though
gino
Legend
i feel like the the comfort/feel is pretty static with Tec sticks. I did try ISO 305 and felt it was more of the same with this update
could be a swing weight thing, but in general, just find these frames to be more about pop/spin than feel/comfort. it's a similar approach to what bab has done all of these years, just veiled in some smaller headsizes and beam widths. those french engineers really like it stiff, so it would seem
I personally would have no idea, but I'll take your word for it!
hdjs94
Rookie
The original demo I tried came with razor code soft which I actually enjoyed quite a bit. I've tried some toroline strings, but never really liked any of them as they're too muted for my taste. I'm probably settling on tour bite 1.20 mains and sync 1.20 crosses. I usually used 1.25 gauge for 16 x19 at around 53lb, but I'll probably drop the tension on this 305s with the 1.20 gauge at around 48lb.
Sync is my go to cross so I'm also planning on trying it out with zero mains and pure rush mains in the future.
I think tour sniper is similar to tour bite?? and I totally agree that the control is better compared to using something like wasabi and that I too personally sort of want a bit more oomph in my balls to without sacrificing feel. Tried some lead tape at 12, but not sure if that's what I wanted.
This is the first time I'm trying out a Tec and I loved it immediately because it has that crisp connected feel like most racquets from the early 2000s. I highly dislike the muted racquet trend that all companies are shifting towards, though I understand a lot of people have arm issues, etc. I normally also play with very stiff connected silver strings like sync, tour bite, silver 7tour, head lynx tour which I realize isn't the most popular with those with arm comfort. I've personally tried out some toroline strings which are naturally more soft and muted compared to a lot of other strings and it definitely made a difference in feel.
In my opinion, I feel it is easier to make a crisp/connected/stiff racquet more muted with muted strings than making a more comfortable/muted racquet more crisp/connected with stiff/crisp strings. Thus inherently making crisp/connected/stiff racquets possibly more "string sensitive"? Kind of similar to using a vibration dampener on a harsh racquet to mute it, but there isn't really the same equivalent of something you can do to a muted racquet to make it that much more crisp/connected.
gino
Legend
I get what you are after and I think these frames are the perfect fit for that. Honestly if I had your proclivities, I would buy 10 of these. If you are after that crispy/stiff/but connected dynamic, TFight might be the best option on the market. More connected then the babolat frames which have way more of a pronounced trampoline effect. Totally get why you are toying with strings in this case, either trying to amplify what you like or dull it a bit. Happy hitting man
hdjs94
Rookie
Yes sir!
I'm especially not too ecstatic about all the Babolat range of racquets becoming more muted in general feel across the board. I actually used earlier Babolat models throughout the majority of my tennis play since I was a kid. I highly recommend anyone else who loved playing with the earlier Babolat models to try the new tfights out.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Took my newly acquired 300 out for a hit. Unstrung SW was on the higher end at 295. Strung it with ultra cable white mains and Ghostwire crosses. The feel for me is nice and connected, love the cosmetic and feel in hand as well, the head shape for a 100 is very narrow with a smaller spin window. I didn’t gel with it so far though. Was hoping for more easy pop/depth. I’ve actually been hitting the FURI Arma v2 101 305 lately and prefer it to the tfight so far. I’m going to restring the tfight though with something round, probably PTP but open to suggestions.
Jingo
Rookie
I wonder how much the impression of 'plasticky' comes from hearing others say this and combining it with the glossy nature of the paintjob—because I can definitely imagine the 305S as being made of plastic, even though it obviously isn't. It's made of pretty much the same thing that all the other rackets are made of.
Anyway, I got a 305S and have hit with it a few times. Is it stiff? It can be, for sure. You definitely feel when you hit outside the sweetspot, though the ball still goes just fine. Balance is very interesting. Much more centered around the middle of the frame than most. Not very polarized. I've found that, in tandem with the TF grip shape, it lends itself to hitting flatter through the ball with an eastern/soft semi-western grip. Volleys are similarly demanding of a slightly more extreme grip than usual. Definitely enjoying it. Great control and feel, so long as you hit it cleanly. My two-handed BH in particular feels great—I can see why Karue went for it. Haven't quite figured out serves but again, I think that's the depolarized feel. Kinda like the Nordicdots, this is a frame that can work really well for the right people but be really bad for others. I'm pretty flexible in terms of what I'll play with so it's fun to have something unique like this. The ISO 305 was also unique, though that log-like swingweight made it a purely for-the-love-of-the uniqueness proposition. This one might be a little weird but it's entirely in line with what most people can handle, so long as they're willing to be open-minded about its unique qualities.
For reference, I have Lynx Tour in it (was originally 52/51 and has since softened). Usually play with the Radical MP but have tried basically everything out there. Play 4.5-5.0 tourneys. Have a sensitive elbow (mostly golfer's which flares up with high static but get TE if the racket is stiff) so I'm a decent test of stiffness. As I said, it's stiff. I've definitely felt twinges with it. Willing to mess around with strings to see whether I can mitigate this. Lynx Tour is by no means a soft string so I've got nowhere else to go but down in stiffness. Tight patterns are always a bit trickier to find the right strings for. Will be throwing in some Toroline for the next string job. Always relatively soft, even if durability suffers.
Anyway, I got a 305S and have hit with it a few times. Is it stiff? It can be, for sure. You definitely feel when you hit outside the sweetspot, though the ball still goes just fine. Balance is very interesting. Much more centered around the middle of the frame than most. Not very polarized. I've found that, in tandem with the TF grip shape, it lends itself to hitting flatter through the ball with an eastern/soft semi-western grip. Volleys are similarly demanding of a slightly more extreme grip than usual. Definitely enjoying it. Great control and feel, so long as you hit it cleanly. My two-handed BH in particular feels great—I can see why Karue went for it. Haven't quite figured out serves but again, I think that's the depolarized feel. Kinda like the Nordicdots, this is a frame that can work really well for the right people but be really bad for others. I'm pretty flexible in terms of what I'll play with so it's fun to have something unique like this. The ISO 305 was also unique, though that log-like swingweight made it a purely for-the-love-of-the uniqueness proposition. This one might be a little weird but it's entirely in line with what most people can handle, so long as they're willing to be open-minded about its unique qualities.
For reference, I have Lynx Tour in it (was originally 52/51 and has since softened). Usually play with the Radical MP but have tried basically everything out there. Play 4.5-5.0 tourneys. Have a sensitive elbow (mostly golfer's which flares up with high static but get TE if the racket is stiff) so I'm a decent test of stiffness. As I said, it's stiff. I've definitely felt twinges with it. Willing to mess around with strings to see whether I can mitigate this. Lynx Tour is by no means a soft string so I've got nowhere else to go but down in stiffness. Tight patterns are always a bit trickier to find the right strings for. Will be throwing in some Toroline for the next string job. Always relatively soft, even if durability suffers.
gino
Legend
My impression of the plastic-like feel comes from hitting it, no victims of groupthink over here
I’m not sure I’ve ever correlated plastic-like feel with a gloss finish. I’m fairly sure those things are mutually exclusive, layup tech is driving those feelings. I find it funny a lot of folks who bought these are almost trying to reverse engineer themselves into liking it. I’ve also had bouts with GE, the new Tec frames definitely didn’t make it flare, but with extended use I wouldn’t rule that out ! Great performer, not a great feeling frame. I’d say those are my logical conclusions from hitting itCayenne321
New User
To me the 305s feels like a Speed Pro and a Pure Drive had a baby. A crisper, punchier Speed Pro. It's pretty well rounded, but I'm not expecting the touch of something like a Wilson Ultra Pro.
If I strung it with full poly higher than 50lb it would probably wreck havoc on my elbow, but it's fine at 48 with head hawk 17.
If I strung it with full poly higher than 50lb it would probably wreck havoc on my elbow, but it's fine at 48 with head hawk 17.
gino
Legend
Well put, I like the adjective punchy for the response here. Powerful and packs a big punch for its measurables
Id be interested in your feedback with toroline strings.
Im demoing a blade v9 98 16x19 with head lynx tour (I play with a vcore strung with poly tour strike for reference) and my elbow and forearm are a bit sore.. I find I swing harder to get the same depth with it and the string is def stiffer.. Ill try to cross lynx tour with hawk touch to see if it softens a little but so far Im staying with my vcore..
Im eager to try the 305s but given the reviews Im worried about my elbow tbh
Ps: the demo is L2 and I use L3.. Not sure if Im gripping harder because of the grip size and the soreness comes from this
Got my 305s, added 3g lead to handle, total weight with 333g and balance 32.2cm with overgrip and dampener. I also have 300s, comparing to hem.
305s has a lower launch angle and more stability and control, less spin, no need to add lead to 3 and 9.
Hard to say which I prefer, both feel very nice
300s leaves more room for customization. I think I will continue playing with both rackets and see what I like, I think I will string the 305s with lower tension (current 22kg) to open up the sweet spot and get little higher launch angle or spin. Short angle crossess are easier with 300s, so that is pretty much the only occasion where I feel it lacks spin.
It could be, that when the clay season starts the 300S is better.
305s has a lower launch angle and more stability and control, less spin, no need to add lead to 3 and 9.
Hard to say which I prefer, both feel very nice
300s leaves more room for customization. I think I will continue playing with both rackets and see what I like, I think I will string the 305s with lower tension (current 22kg) to open up the sweet spot and get little higher launch angle or spin. Short angle crossess are easier with 300s, so that is pretty much the only occasion where I feel it lacks spin.
It could be, that when the clay season starts the 300S is better.
Jingo
Rookie
My impression of the plastic-like feel comes from hitting it, no victims of groupthink over here
And I'm just saying our brains are funny things—it really does look plasticky to me. Does it feel like that? Not particularly. It does feel interesting, though. Weight distribution probably has a lot to do with it.
I don't think I'm trying to get myself to like it—I like my Rads and I have three of them already so it would be a bad idea to switch unless I felt I genuinely did better with the 305S. This remains to be seen. It plays well in practice and match play has gone well enough. Besides the arm, the only real concern I have is that I've found that I can't switch around between that one and anything else—again, probably the unique balance.
Will be continuing to mess around with it for at least a few more weeks. Supposed to get Gravity Tour, Black Ace Pro, and EZone 98 demos in a bit so I'll have some more nice points of comparison with the latest and greatest.
gino
Legend
I get what you mean. It's like a tactile sensation that sort of tricks the brain. I agree the layup and way its distributed its weight is likely the reason it feels the way it does.
Im curious how you feel about the GT98 and this. Based on what Ive read from your end, I think youll like that more. That being said, these Tec sticks are great performers from the baseline and serve. Ill reiterate, just elite in those areas, two of the most important performance categories in 2025
Jingo
Rookie
Definitely looking forward to the GT98—I loved the OG Gravity Pro (much less so the Auxetic versions) but strongly prefer 97-98s—have mained the Rad MP, Percept 97D, Aero 98 (RIP my arm), the Blade Pro (both versions), and the ISO 305. Only concern is the slightly open pattern but we'll see.
At the very least, the 305S is unique enough I'm going to mess around with it amidst the sea of other 98s. (Maybe Karue Spec next??)
patrickluvsoj
Rookie
Did you ever get to compare these frames?today i am taking out the tempo 298 out of my bag to make a comparison review
Jingo
Rookie
I play with the Radical MP (Auxetic 1.0). Have also played with the Pro (very similar, just less pop and a little better feel--wasn't worth it to me) from the same generation. Launch is similar, maybe a little lower on the 305S but it's close. Power is also similar, though I have added a couple grams to the top of my MPs and 4g to the buttcaps in order to increase their power just a bit. It's possible the 305Shas a bit more pop than the stock MP. The 305S has less spin. You can still generate it because it's pretty maneuverable but it's clear the pattern is a bit tighter. Neither stick is a spin machine, though.
So yeah, they're similar in terms of performance. Biggest difference is the weight distribution, as I've said in my other comments. Very different. Grip shape can also make a big difference but everyone already knows about the TFs. If it matters, it matters. For me, it does a bit. Means I can't hit with the strong semi-western the way I can with the MPs. Made me go more over to a soft semi-western.
_FrankTheTank_
Rookie
Odd question here:
Anyone tried to build up/change the grip and removed the transparent tape from the the foam pallet? Wanted to build up the grip on my 300s with medical tape, but nothing sticks to that foam pallet now. o medical tape, no gorilla tape, none of me transparent tapes, no double sided tape... it's just so slick. Any tape recommendation?
Anyone tried to build up/change the grip and removed the transparent tape from the the foam pallet? Wanted to build up the grip on my 300s with medical tape, but nothing sticks to that foam pallet now. o medical tape, no gorilla tape, none of me transparent tapes, no double sided tape... it's just so slick. Any tape recommendation?
leojramirez
Rookie
Not using the right grip size, in my experience, has led to discomfort. I feel like these new tfights, compared to the ISO, feel a tiny bit bigger, I had to change the base grip to a thicker babolat on the ISO, naturally I did the same with the 300s but felt bigger so went back to the stock grip. I demoed the 305s but i think i got a bad sample, was too head light.
I had hardcore TE 2 years ago after using the 23 vcore 98 coming from using the prior 2 versions so it was totally unexpected. I have always struggled with forearm/wrist/hand/elbow issues when using stiffer rackets. The ISO and these new tfights don't give me discomfort... with the right strings. I've felt discomfort from lynx tour on a wilson blade 100 v9 but not on the v8. I've also felt wrist discomfort with the PA98 and when using razor soft 1.2 and black code on the ISO 300. No discomfort from using Grapplesnake tour m8 or snipper on the blade v8, blade v9 or ISO 300. That said, every elbow and wrist are different.
On the 300s I used Toroline experimental which is ok but last night I tried super toro/o-toro at 23kg stock which played and felt better than experimental. I was surprised because I normally don't play stock 300g sticks. I've also used k-pop extensively on the ISO 300 and was very good but full bed o-toro felt launchy. No arm discomfort with any of those. I like more muted strings thats why I think it felt better with super toro mains.
extreme_western
New User
Interesting you say his re the older babolats. Did you ever use the pure control tour? That has always been my favourite racket and I’m currently in the process of trying to find a replacement, I love the feel of the blade pro but still open to something which has that feel but is a bit easier to swing
Which Bab grip did you replace it with?
With my ISO 305s. I end up regrip the white Tec base grip to make it “tighter” (hence finishes shorter at the top. It beefed up the grip nicely for me. With YY OG the TK82 ish handle shape is now more bearable. lol
leojramirez
Rookie
Interesting. This should be the same thickness as the Tec base grip on the ISO
leojramirez
Rookie
sajlent555
Rookie
Yes.
I removed og base grip and that transparent plastic from pallet on Tempo 298 Iga. I use now Head Hydrosorb Comfort 2.10mm to make it lil bit thicker. Size L2.
hdjs94
Rookie
Ah unfortunately that’s the only babolat I never got to try. Would have loved to though. I’d imagine the tfight should still offer a more similar feel especially in comparison to something like a blade
Hawks9451
Professional
gino
Legend
I don’t hate it, but i don’t love it?
no shade I like it
patrickluvsoj
Rookie
Was actually hoping to try 305s and 300s but hit a bit with the 285gram version of Tfight 100 since that was the only demo available at my local store..
Good feel. Solid and crisp but not harsh. So far feel like a more controlled Textreme Tour 290.
I realized it actually has a lower flex than the 300gram version.
I might prefer weighing this up vs. using the 300.
Good feel. Solid and crisp but not harsh. So far feel like a more controlled Textreme Tour 290.
I realized it actually has a lower flex than the 300gram version.
I might prefer weighing this up vs. using the 300.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Canceled my demo. Stiff/crisp is not what I expected from this. Kudos to connected, move that. But that is exactly what I have with the GT98 in a plush feel package
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That is interesting about the 285 version. It also is a 23mm beam so it's a different mold than the 300/300s. Did you play with the older versions of the T-Fight at all? If so, how does it compare in terms of playability and comfort? I've been using the 300 ISO but it's too stiff and am now in the market for something similar but more comfortable.
gino
Legend
If I had to pick between 305s and GT98, it’s GT98 and it’s not particularly close. This may have the hype, but since comfort comes at a premium to you (also myself), not worth the effort to try and force yourself into liking this one. I’ll say it again, it performs exceptional on groundies and serve, but leaves a lot to be desired for me as an all courter
Gotta love it! Rackets continue to be a personal journey! I prefer the 305S over the GT98.
So many good options these days. Its legit hard to find a "bad" racket these days.
Vicious49
Legend
I don't find it stiff. It's pretty string dependent though as with Cyclone it felt boardy but with RPM Blast it feels pretty nice to me. The GT98 is definitely more plush. Yet I prefer the 305S for my playstyle.
gino
Legend
Exactly. Different strokes for different folks. I’ll say it for a dozen more times, these are great for modern baseline tennis. It’s very direct and very point & shoot type vibe. It makes sense for a lot of people
I was going to say, I would be more personally interested to see a Speed 98, with a spec in the realm of an ND Model 99 (300g, 31.7cm -ish, 292-ish unstrung SW, 16x20 with 8 throat mains) and a cleaner, more pro-stock -level layup, devoid of the retail filler nonsense. But the more I think about it, the more I'm probably just hoping for an overhauled Boom Pro, with a 16x20, completely consistent string bed (no more hot spots), raw/direct layup, and a paint job that doesn't make it look like a toddler's toy (common Head.... really?!?). Oh well, can't have it all I guess.
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patrickluvsoj
Rookie
Unfortunately i haven't played the previous version so I cannot say.
PrinceYonex
Semi-Pro
I played with a 300S today, first time out. Gut mains and poly crosses, and I actually don’t find it harsh at all. I do think the critiques about it being too crisp are very string dependent.
Also, mine has a 317 swingweight, and somehow despite a relatively low SW, it’s still really stable. Really nice combination of maneuverability and stability.
Also, mine has a 317 swingweight, and somehow despite a relatively low SW, it’s still really stable. Really nice combination of maneuverability and stability.
patrickluvsoj
Rookie
Are you able to compare it with frames you are familiar with in terms of control, power, spin and launch angle? Bonus points if it’s an ezone 98 or pure strike 98 16x19!
PrinceYonex
Semi-Pro
I’ve only played with the ezone98 a few times, so I’m not the best for this comparison. I would say that the 300S is whippier, easier spin, higher launch. I am not sure about which wins in terms of power, just haven’t played with the ez98 recently.
Shankmeister-Chubs
Rookie
So far, I'm liking my 305s. Strung with Tourbite 1.20 mains and Pro's Pro Red Devil (soft, powerful round poly) in the cross, at 50lbs/48lbs, I have had zero arm issues, and I do get wrist and tennis elbow flare-ups with other racquets. What I love most about it is I'm spinning the ball tons, and I can translate what I'm trying to do into my shots pretty intuitively. I came into this year more excited about the new G98 and the GMP, but I'm glad I went with this after demoing the 3 options. Goodbye Head mushiness (for now)!
hdjs94
Rookie
I switched to a 305s from the PS 98 16x19.
I know youre probably wanting a comparison to the 300s however?
At least from what I’ve heard from here and piecing it with my experience with the 305s and the pure strike, I feel like pure strike will have the most power naturally due to its much higher swing weight. The feel and feedback with the tfights are much better and more crisp compared to the latest pure strike in my taste which was a huge switching point. I know the PS has a much higher launch angle than the 305s and also more spin but can’t say compared to the 300s. I’d imagine the PS might be smidge higher than the 300s. In terms of control I would think it’d prob rank 305s>PS 16x19> 300s.
patrickluvsoj
Rookie
Thanks. I also want to try out the 305s so that’s good input. If the launch angle is significantly lower than the pure strike, it probably won’t work for me. But the feel and improved maneuverability does seem enticing
300s sounds like a better fit.
In the end, I have to try it out myself.
hdjs94
Rookie
For sure demo is a must!
JFrijhoff
Rookie
Not quite the same, but I play ISO305 and PS 2024 18x20. They both got plenty power, but the strike is much more soft/muted than the ISO, so also the 2025 update based on reviews so far.
