New to League tennis - feeling discouraged

lesliegb6720

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I played tennis when I was in middle school, then didn't play for like 25 years and took it up again four years ago. First three years, just played with my husband and some friends, took some group lessons. Last year, took some private lessons. Was feeling better about my technique and joined a league this year. Self-rated at 3.0.

Have played three matches so far -- two doubles, one singles. Lost all of them 6-2, 6-2. 6-1 6-3, 6-2, 6-1. I did better in the singles match than the doubles. I feel like I am improving, but am feeling a bit discouraged. I feel like my baseline ground shots are solid, but need better placement. Net play could be better. Serve is pretty good. I'd like to at least win a set.

Should I have started at 2.5 level instead? Any thoughts or advice?
 
Won't you get downgraded to 2.5 automatically if you keep losing?

Just stick to it in any case. Winning league matches takes a lot of mental stamina and that comes with experience. It is not like taking lessons or playing with friends. But as you play more, you will start winning more and your confidence will grow and soon you will leave your 3.0 friends behind.
 
Well, you won about 1/3 of the games you played. Think about what you did to win those games and do more of it, and do it longer.
More seriously, Tennis cam be broken down into various categories that can be improved upon.
1. Physical fitness- work on endurance, speed, movement, general footwork and getting into position.
2. Form- work on good form and consistency in your strokes. Obviously opponents will test your weaknesses. So, practice not only your strengths
but also shots you are reluctant to use. Practice until they are no longer liabilities. Only you know what your weak areas are, but for
many beginning players- things like dropshots, topspin lobs, approach shots, overheads, passing shots...
3. Strategies- work on tactics, watch tutorials on YouTube. Have a plan "B" if needed. Every time you hit the ball have a reason/purpose- even
if its just to keep it in play till you get a short response. Obviously work on placement.
4. In order to practice all this stuff, you need a reliable practice partner. Most people just want to randomly hit groundstrokes- so try to find
someone willing to work on specific drills.
5. Even after all this, you may not immediately start winning tournaments. Others may/will have more experience and match toughness, but over
time you will acquire your own strengths and will begin winning more and more- until you get bumped up into the next level where you
will find if very challenging all over again.
 
Think about how/why you're losing individual points.

Are you making unforced errors -- hitting long or into the net? Or are you hitting sitters that the other team is crushing for winners?

Even if you practice and have good strokes, choosing the RIGHT shot is so vital. Especially against players with decent tennis IQ's who've been playing for years.

Frankly at 3.0 just hitting a consistent but reliable ball deep will win you lots of points -- let them make mistakes. Too many people try to do too much. Moon balling until they hit a sitter your partner can pouch is quite a reasonable strategy.
 
Practicing and playing matches are very different things. You haven't played competitive matches in over 2 decades. I know it's frustrating, but try to be patient as you adjust. You can try to help yourself adjust by putting yourself in scoring/pressure situations in practice as well.

Stick with it for at least the remainder of your current league and then reevaluate from there. It takes time to adjust and that's completely normal.
 
I played tennis when I was in middle school, then didn't play for like 25 years and took it up again four years ago. First three years, just played with my husband and some friends, took some group lessons. Last year, took some private lessons. Was feeling better about my technique and joined a league this year. Self-rated at 3.0.

Have played three matches so far -- two doubles, one singles. Lost all of them 6-2, 6-2. 6-1 6-3, 6-2, 6-1. I did better in the singles match than the doubles. I feel like I am improving, but am feeling a bit discouraged. I feel like my baseline ground shots are solid, but need better placement. Net play could be better. Serve is pretty good. I'd like to at least win a set.

Should I have started at 2.5 level instead? Any thoughts or advice?
there's no harm in starting at a lower level if you would like to build some confidence as you get used to match play. I also lost most of my matches the first time I played league.
  • there's just a lot of intangibles - for example, I am terrible at keeping track of score, cause I just never cared about who won or lost when playing with friends. Or it took me awhile to stay focused for 1-3 hours and not just hit whatever shots I felt like
  • there are more tangible things of course, like learning what type of personality you are under competition and managing the pros and cons to that personality. or deciding to try and win more and go steady during points, or risk new shots and try to learn at the cost of your win percentage.

what might be helpful is writing in a tennis journal. after a match, reflect on things that went well, things that didn't go well, what your mood was like leading up to the match, throughout the match, and after. you might even log what you ate to see what keeps you feeling good on court.

and as always, enjoy the journey. it is not life or death if you play 2.5, 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, or even 5.0. competition is another layer of fun in being able to test yourself and grow. it's easy to spiral into dreading meeting yourself on court and dreading tennis.
 
This brings up an important question some fellow players and I have been discussing. Is there such a thing as winners and losers in tennis?

Maybe that there is a characteristic inside of a person that determines whether or not they can win in such a one-on-one sport such as tennis? No matter the reps. No matter the lessons. No matter the work. There is a fundamental difference between people that win and people that lose.

I know modern society today loves to espouse the idea that anyone can be anything. And there is some truth there. But I do wonder if there is any meat to this idea.

Obviously the level has to be somewhat close (not all the time). But you can't cheat the hangman. So to speak. If you have a flaw inside of you that will not allow you to dominate other people then you will find it very hard to win in tennis no matter the hours you spend on court.

I'm curious on your feedback.
 
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This brings up an important question some fellow players and I have been discussing. Is there such a thing as winners and losers in tennis?

Maybe that there is a characteristic inside of a person that determines whether or not they can win in such a one-on-one sport such as tennis? No matter the reps. No matter the lessons. No matter the work. There is a fundamental difference between people that win and people that lose.

I know modern society today loves to espouse the idea that anyone can be anything. And there is some truth there. But I do wonder if there is any meat to this idea.

Obviously the level has to be somewhat close (not all the time). But you can't cheat the hangman. So to speak. If you have a flaw inside of you that will not allow you to dominate other people then you will find it very hard to win in tennis no matter the hours you spend on court.

I'm curious on your feedback.
People get tensed about winning and they drag their ego into it too much. Tennis is a biomechanical sport and unless you have played as a junior, the technique breaks down under the pressure of a match. Then, the more mentally stable and crafty person wins. This persists till the 4.5 level.
 
I don't feel I need to win to have fun, but it would be nice to feel competitive.

i feel you, but winning and losing is a result. do not focus on the winning or losing aspect during the match.
you should be trying to focus on the ball and your movements.
you can come away feeling good even when losing, having played a great match

think of it positively. you are playing players better than you and have this challenge in front of you.

I love PM, he has some great insights into sports psychology.
 
People get tensed about winning and they drag their ego into it too much. Tennis is a biomechanical sport and unless you have played as a junior, the technique breaks down under the pressure of a match. Then, the more mentally stable and crafty person wins. This persists till the 4.5 level.
But are there natural born winners and losers?
 
Read the book “The Art of Doubles” and it will help improve your doubles skills. Read “Smart Tennis” and it will improve your mental skills for tennis in general. All the best!
 
I played tennis when I was in middle school, then didn't play for like 25 years and took it up again four years ago. First three years, just played with my husband and some friends, took some group lessons. Last year, took some private lessons. Was feeling better about my technique and joined a league this year. Self-rated at 3.0.

Have played three matches so far -- two doubles, one singles. Lost all of them 6-2, 6-2. 6-1 6-3, 6-2, 6-1. I did better in the singles match than the doubles. I feel like I am improving, but am feeling a bit discouraged. I feel like my baseline ground shots are solid, but need better placement. Net play could be better. Serve is pretty good. I'd like to at least win a set.

Should I have started at 2.5 level instead? Any thoughts or advice?

It's always better for development to get smoked by better players than to get easy wins.

I consider myself a serious player, easy 4.0 and the pro at my club says borderline 4.5...and I lose the vast majority of the matches I play. If I'm winning easily without being absolutely in the zone then I'm not being challenged
 
Won't you get downgraded to 2.5 automatically if you keep losing?

Just stick to it in any case. Winning league matches takes a lot of mental stamina and that comes with experience. It is not like taking lessons or playing with friends. But as you play more, you will start winning more and your confidence will grow and soon you will leave your 3.0 friends behind.
No, not nesassarily. Your rating depends on the outcome of the match, but more importantly the expected outcome based on the opposing players rating. A high rated 3.0 should beat a lower rated 3.0 pretty easily. It is a big range.

The focus should be on goals not wins and losses.
 
Thanks everyone for the encouragement. I will say I feel that I am improving and getting more consistent. I'm surprised how many players use drop shots, slices and other shots I haven't learned yet. On a happy note, I was able to hit a decent overhead last match and win the point. So there is some progress. FYI, I'm on a team that is more community-based -- none of us belong to a club. We are playing against a lot of club teams.
 
I have been playing for almost 6 years 2 to 3 times a week and I am still a 3.0. I hear you. I was a bit discouraged when I got my 3.0c ratings the last 2 years even though I expected the last one. But here are a few of my thoughts:

This is an adult competitive league. So even at 2.5 you are not playing just anyone that has picked up a racquet. You are playing other *adults* who play the game with the intensity and dedication to want to play competitively. I just played a 3.0 40 and over match and my opponents were hitting serves that were unpredictable and not that easy to deal with. They were not double faulting or giving away too many points from my perspective. I won the matches but it was far from a certainty and I have to give them respect they had a tennis game. After the match I looked them up and found out they were at the bottom of 3.0 level according to TR and UTR. I have played with 2.5 to 5.0 players. And I am not saying the differences are not clear, but tennis is a game of pretty small margins.

Here is Novak Djokovic's stats:
He only won 54% of the points but his record is still 1098 - 217.

Yes as 3.0 players we likely have large gaps in our game that we recognize and can improve on. But I suspect it is also about tightening the screws a bit in all aspects of the game. If I hit 20% fewer unforced errors I think that would dramatically change my win loss record. Add a drop shot or slightly improve at the net or my returns. Is it easy to do something like that? I doubt it because so many adults have been playing for so long and not necessarily improving. But I think it is doable - certainly at your age and hopefully even at my age. But even if we stay at 3.0 or get bumped down to 2.5 we are still competing at this sport with other adults who play the sport the with intensity and dedication that comes with an adult competitive league. Regardless of the level you will find adults that have been playing for years fine tuning their game. So that is pretty decent on its own.
 
This brings up an important question some fellow players and I have been discussing. Is there such a thing as winners and losers in tennis?

Maybe that there is a characteristic inside of a person that determines whether or not they can win in such a one-on-one sport such as tennis? No matter the reps. No matter the lessons. No matter the work. There is a fundamental difference between people that win and people that lose.

There is also talent height and general athleticism.

I know modern society today loves to espouse the idea that anyone can be anything. And there is some truth there. But I do wonder if there is any meat to this idea.

Obviously the level has to be somewhat close (not all the time). But you can't cheat the hangman. So to speak. If you have a flaw inside of you that will not allow you to dominate other people then you will find it very hard to win in tennis no matter the hours you spend on court.

I'm curious on your feedback.

There are people who have/willdo what it takes to win at sports and others who wont. I remember telling my daughter how it will be cool to play more intense sports in high school. And she asked why do you think I want more intensity in sports? We still laugh about that.

That said there are definitely some things I have thought about to try to perform better at sports, and other things. One extreme example, I remember as a kid trying to pretend my whole family would die if I didn't score a touchdown on the next play! When I practice I often try to put myself in those match point situations and try to play free and easy. And yes there are a few other thoughts that I think can help improve my sports performance. One standard used by great coaches everywhere is to create the impression in the players mind that the other team thinks they are way better then them, that they thin you suck, and that you don't even deserve to be on the same field/court etc with them. Every time I see a coach or player badmouthing the other team you know that quote will be read to the team by the other coach before the game starts. That is why Lou Holtz would often talk about how the other team just seems invincible and he doesn't know what he is going to do or how they can possibly win.
 
If you enjoy it then stick with it. I started two years ago and self rated a 3.5 as a 50 year old male playing doubles 75% and singles 25% of the time. I finished the 1st year 7 wins and 24 losses, tough to always be losing when I thought I was a good player and others told me so as well. . Year two I am currently 13 wins with 11 losses. It's a process to learn how to win at tennis when going up against experienced players, managing your game, and managing fitness/hydration.
 
i feel you, but winning and losing is a result. do not focus on the winning or losing aspect during the match.
you should be trying to focus on the ball and your movements.
you can come away feeling good even when losing, having played a great match

think of it positively. you are playing players better than you and have this challenge in front of you.

I love PM, he has some great insights into sports psychology.

I know PM has some detractors, but as a youtuber, I love his videos. I saw this one video of a spanish girl who was not performing well in her tournaments or league matches, and his advice to her was to make 1-3 goals for the match that would make you happy even if you lose 6-0, 6-0. So you do not make the score too important but the process of getting better. I apply that to my league matches and for example, my goals may be to split step as the server is about to strike the ball, avoid eye rolls/groans etc if my partner misses an easy put away, and to hit a lob if I'm stretched out.
 
I played tennis when I was in middle school, then didn't play for like 25 years and took it up again four years ago. First three years, just played with my husband and some friends, took some group lessons. Last year, took some private lessons. Was feeling better about my technique and joined a league this year. Self-rated at 3.0.

Have played three matches so far -- two doubles, one singles. Lost all of them 6-2, 6-2. 6-1 6-3, 6-2, 6-1. I did better in the singles match than the doubles. I feel like I am improving, but am feeling a bit discouraged. I feel like my baseline ground shots are solid, but need better placement. Net play could be better. Serve is pretty good. I'd like to at least win a set.

Should I have started at 2.5 level instead? Any thoughts or advice?
I agree with most of what's been said, but I just want to reiterate:

Playing competitive matches is a separate skill from hitting the ball or playing casually with family/friends.

To get better, you need to play way more in these situations. It will take a season or two for you to develop into a solid competitor. Just enjoy the journey.
 
This is an adult competitive league. So even at 2.5 you are not playing just anyone that has picked up a racquet. You are playing other *adults* who play the game with the intensity and dedication to want to play competitively.
Exactly. Some people use the NTRP scale like it's an "ability scale": 2.5 and 3.0 are beginner, 3.5 and 4.0 are intermediate, 4.5+ start to be "advanced". On this scale you would think that if you've been playing for fun for a few years you'd probably be a 3.5 or 4.0, but the reality is that 2.5 and 3.0 are the beginners ... among the more serious, competitive players who are a minority of rec players. There's a large majority at our club that don't even try to compete at any level. You need both competition experience AND tennis skills to move up the NTRP League levels.
 
Well I have an update -- my doubles partner and I won our match this morning! I really appreciate all the tips and comments, especially to think about the process and setting mini-goals for myself. I decided to focus on consistency and location rather than trying to hit the ball hard, and we squeaked out the win 6-4, 6-7, 10-8 (match tiebreak). But I do appreciate people stressing not focusing on results -- I know I have improved my game and I really just wanted to have fun and improve, and that is happening.
 
This brings up an important question some fellow players and I have been discussing. Is there such a thing as winners and losers in tennis?

Maybe that there is a characteristic inside of a person that determines whether or not they can win in such a one-on-one sport such as tennis? No matter the reps. No matter the lessons. No matter the work. There is a fundamental difference between people that win and people that lose.

I know modern society today loves to espouse the idea that anyone can be anything. And there is some truth there. But I do wonder if there is any meat to this idea.

Obviously the level has to be somewhat close (not all the time). But you can't cheat the hangman. So to speak. If you have a flaw inside of you that will not allow you to dominate other people then you will find it very hard to win in tennis no matter the hours you spend on court.

I'm curious on your feedback.
Absolutely! Tennis is very much a mental game. Someone who is mentally strong, has the clutch gene and can have iron will when it matters most will win a lot more matches, especially in rec tennis. Even at highest level the “winner” characteristics reign supreme.
 
Well I have an update -- my doubles partner and I won our match this morning! I really appreciate all the tips and comments, especially to think about the process and setting mini-goals for myself. I decided to focus on consistency and location rather than trying to hit the ball hard, and we squeaked out the win 6-4, 6-7, 10-8 (match tiebreak). But I do appreciate people stressing not focusing on results -- I know I have improved my game and I really just wanted to have fun and improve, and that is happening.
This kind of match is what I enjoy. Obviously I prefer to win at the end, but I have much more fun playing in these tight contests.
For goals, what I like is having one technical goal, one mental/attitude goal, and one tactical/strategy goal. too many technical goals (FH, BH , serve, volley etc) can disrupt your focus.
 
This brings up an important question some fellow players and I have been discussing. Is there such a thing as winners and losers in tennis?

Maybe that there is a characteristic inside of a person that determines whether or not they can win in such a one-on-one sport such as tennis? No matter the reps. No matter the lessons. No matter the work. There is a fundamental difference between people that win and people that lose.

I know modern society today loves to espouse the idea that anyone can be anything. And there is some truth there. But I do wonder if there is any meat to this idea.

Obviously the level has to be somewhat close (not all the time). But you can't cheat the hangman. So to speak. If you have a flaw inside of you that will not allow you to dominate other people then you will find it very hard to win in tennis no matter the hours you spend on court.

I'm curious on your feedback.
The winner vs loser mentality is real among people. I doubt that has much correlation with the scores. Good training can absolutely compensate for loser mentality at low level rec matches.
 
Adult USTA league tennis is a form of competitive tennis that is, in my experience, distinct from other competitive tennis situations, especially those encountered at the high school, juniors, and even college levels. I played tennis from middle school through high school, competed in juniors tournaments, took loads of private lessons, etc. I didn’t play in college because I was burnt out and decided to quit tennis after I graduated high school, but I was probably equivalent to a D3 or low D2 player. When I was in grad school 8 years later, though, I started playing again for fun and, eventually, registered in a USTA league.

When I first started USTA, I self-rated at 3.5 and, despite being a “textbook” player with much better technique than the majority of my opponents, I didn’t win a SINGLE match my first two seasons. Like you, I felt so disheartened, especially because I had played my whole life and I felt like I “should be winning” because “my technique is better and I hit harder.” Well, it took me two full seasons to shake that (arrogant lol) attitude and come to accept and respect the fact that USTA is an environment in which you will necessarily encounter a much more diverse range of players and playing styles than what you would playing juniors, college, etc. This is because you are often playing against self-taught players, players who picked tennis up later in life, players who have mastered “bad technique,” players who have been in USTA leagues for 20+ years, etc. I didn’t start winning until I a) got out of the somewhat snobby mindset that better technique = more likely to win, and 2) got a bit more practice under my belt playing different types of players than I would have ever encountered in the past when I was in juniors (pushers, slicers, lobbers, etc.) I think you literally just need match practice against a lot of people, and this includes becoming more familiar and comfortable with the format of USTA matches and the overall “vibe” of the league. Some leagues/regions are a lot more formal and than others, and I think this can sometimes cause a lot of nerves for those who are new to adult league match play, especially if you’re generally younger than the majority of your opponents (which was my situation). Hang in there—I promise you’ll start getting better results with time!

I’m now a 4.5 and I’ve been playing USTA for about 10 years, and I can tell you that even at 4.5, players who just came off of D2 or D3 college teams a few years ago who self-rate at 4.5 still lose matches to “weaker” players a lot in their first season playing USTA because they often are just not prepared for the huge variety of play style, pace, and technique they end up playing against. It’s just a totally different world of tennis competition!
 
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