'New' Wilson Gut - BT7?

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  1. Dags

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    I noticed this when comparing gut prices at TW:

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    Seems likely the new product is BT7... does anyone have confirmation of that? I'd guess it also means the phasing out of the classic stuff, but again, any concrete information?

    The Luxilon gut may have come to market at just the right time. Shame that for some inexplicable reason it costs the earth in Europe.
     
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  2. jim e

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    Seems a strange coincidence that the new Luxilon Gut and the new Wilson Gut are both available at same time Jan 16th. and Wilson is a distributor of Luxilon.
    Be interested to see if marked on package where the new Wilson Gut is manufactured.
     
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  3. Dags

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    Ha! Hadn't even thought of that. That would indeed be an interesting proposition.
     
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  4. Rally

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    If it's cheaper, is it safe to assume that it is an inferior product or is Wilson just being generous and cutting down their profit margins for the benefit of the consumer?
     
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  5. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Maybe Wilson realized it priced itself out of the competition?

    Just look around these boards, bulk of the natural gut discussion is about Pacific and other "reasonably" priced natural gut, I can't remember someone talked about Wilson Natural Gut here.
     
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  6. SeeItHitIt

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    I find it interesting that the 'new' gut from Wilson is priced a buck cheaper than VS Team. As Babo reportedly makes Wilson's uncoated offering wouldn't it make sense for Wilson to (also) repackage another product for the 'middle market' (over forty bucks is still La-la land to me though)? Although the argument that it's a Lux product at price point makes even more sense.
     
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  7. lidoazndiabloboi

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    From my sources. the new Wilson Gut is confirmed to be made by Luxilon, no longer by Babolat. So maybe thats why you see the price difference.
     
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  8. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    So... why are there two of them? Unless specified otherwise, can we assume they have identical characteristics?
     
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  9. jim e

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    It would be nice to know if The New Wilson is the same as the Lux. Gut as the Wilson is cheaper.
    Has your sources have any comment on that?
     
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  10. Chotobaka

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    Strictly new stock vs old stock situation, I think. Since Wilson is the worldwide distributor for Lux's strings, it is logical for them to have switched. Their non-poly products are mostly sourced from Tecnifibre and Japanese suppliers, so it is likely that their relationship with Babolat was limited to natural gut. They are completely in bed with Luxilon, so this makes perfect sense. My money is on the new gut being made in Belgium.
     
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  11. Swan Song

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    The new Wilson Natural Gut is made in Belgium by Luxilon.


    For those who understand Japanese, the Lafino video states that the difference between the Wilson and Luxilon version are as follows:
    Wilson has 8 strands of serosa fibres versus Luxilon's 9
    Luxilon has a thinner, slicker coating to help impart more spin
    Luxilon has a green dot at the halfway point to make it easy to split the string for a two-piece or hybrid string job
     
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  12. QuentinFederer

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    Wilson had better not mess with their gut. It's my go to string in a hybrid with a poly cross.
     
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  13. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I'd stock up on the old Wilson Natural Gut then if I were you. If we learned anything about the Babolat BT7 debacle, that it is virtually impossible to change a successful formula and "improve" upon it.
     
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  14. TenFanLA

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    If that is the case, then 21 strands Wilson gut is gone. 8 or 9 strands is not much different than Babolat's 7.
     
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    Join me will ya?

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    I thought something was strange the other day when the Wilson gut price increased from £25 to £30 in one shop and was 'out of stock until February' at another. The new gut is actually more expensive. I'm really annoyed about this. Do @Wilson Official even read what people have to say? Do they not realise that Wilson gut is already the best and doesn't need a new formula?

    I might have to stock up on the Wilson gut, but that is only a short term fix. Long term, I'm screwed.
     
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  17. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Yes, but I also think they priced themselves out of competition.
     
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    That's a good point, at least for the American market. In the UK Wilson gut is/was the same price as all the other guts. It's now more expensive here with the new formula. I'm not going to pay more for an inferior product.

    I've tried looking for prince natural gut as I've heard good things about it, but I cannot find it anywhere.
     
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    I dont know this for sure, but its possible Babolat didnt want to renew their relationship with Wilson, not Wilson looking to make something better.
     
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  20. QuentinFederer

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    That's possible, or it could be Wilson looking to strengthen their ties with Luxilon.
     
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  21. jim e

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    I have over a dozen sets of the Wilson Gut in my inventory as that was my preference go to string, until I used the Luxilon Gut, and I now prefer the Luxilon.
    I keep a good supply of Klip and Babolat gut for my gut customers that ask for gut, so I normally have a decent inventory of nat. gut on hand.
    The Luxilon Gut is a little more firmer hit than the Wilson, but it gives a lot more control and power than the Wilson. A good trade off for me. It also seems very durable, as I now have a great deal of time hitting with the Lux. gut, and very little wear in comparison to the Wilson with similar time hitting.
    Now my gut inventory will be going up even more.
     
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    Wilson Gut has consistently been more expensive than Babolat gut for as long as I remember. This is entirely my speculation, but it appears that Babolat never gave Wilson enough of a price margin to compete with Babolat. Wilson found a new supplier, changed their product, and now they're price-competitive.
     
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  23. ultradr

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    Actually, I think this is more of situations since Babolat switched to BT7. Because Wilson one did not seems to feel BT7.

    Someone on this TT board predicted Babolat will bring back original VS as premium gut with higher price.
    People foresaw BT7 as mere scheme to bump up the price of their gut lines.
     
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  24. McLovin

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    Totally circumstantial here, but if you look at the packaging of the new Wilson gut, it looks very similar to the Luxilon packaging:

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    And here's the previous Wilson packaging:

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    The new stuff even appears to be resealable (note the two lines running under the word 'NATURAL GUT'), something I really liked about the Luixlon packaging (I was part of the TT playtest). It will be interesting to see the two compared side-by-side.
     
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  25. scotus

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    You're right about that.

    Prior to BT7, the Wilson gut and Babolat VS cost the same.

    Only after Babolat did away with their classic gut and went the BT7 route did we see Wilson gut's price soar.
     
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  26. QuentinFederer

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    Does anyone know which gut is closest in feel and performance to Wilson?
     
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  27. Rally

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    Has anyone had a chance to play with the new Wilson gut yet?
     
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  28. KickVicious

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    Looks like TW has already taken the original sets off their website. Better load up wherever you can find them.
     
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  29. Rally

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    I just checked on TW and saw the dates. Why the heck is the 17 gauge coming out a full month before the 16 gauge?
     
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  30. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Cause they break faster = more $$$ for Wilson
     
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  31. Rally

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    I'll show them! I'll buy 16g Luxilon gut! They'll never see a penny of that....wait a second!
     
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