Discussion in 'TW Questions/Comments' started by Boredsurfer, Sep 21, 2013.
So the ezone AI has a head shape more similar to the vcore tour 97 than to the previous ezone XI?
Brittany - Any chance of a quick, down-n-dirty comparison to the Donnay Formula 100? The specs of this new Yonex are close to one of my favorite all-time racquets: Babolat Pure Drive Cortex. Thank you!
Any more thoughts on the 100?
Except it appears smaller. Photos of the AI98 make it appear as a 95 and TWU's measurements have it significantly smaller than the Tour 97.
Alright, let's see if I can answer your questions after a couple hits under my belt. First things first, I really like the racquet. I find it easy to use and very similar compared to my top racquets of choice (Yonex VCORE 100 S, Babolat Pure Drive, and Donnay Formula 100). I strung it up with Wilson Rip Spin and while it was better than the syn gut, I still didn't feel it complimented the racquet. So I now have it strung with Volkl Cyclone Pink and will hit with that ASAP. I strung them at around 56 lbs.
However, I can give more details on the racquet. It played very similar to the previous model. I thought the feel was very similar as well as the access to spin. I feel like Yonex toned down the power slightly (just a little, which I think is a good thing!). The head shape isn't as extreme as I mentioned before which I liked better because the sweet spot wasn't as high (which I had a hard time getting used to). Groundstrokes and returns really stood out to me. I found with my groundstrokes that I was really able to take full swings at the ball and it would stay in the court. I had great control when hitting closer to the line on putaway balls. I also found I was hitting my balls deep in the court to push my opponent back with out much trouble. I also had a lot of success hitting angled groundstrokes to pull my opponents off the court. I really felt I could play aggressively on the baseline with confidence.
The only significant difference I found was the tad higher swingweight (327 compared to 312). I found this to make the racquet feel and play more stable and this helped me out a lot at net when I was hitting volleys. While it wasn't as easy to swing as the previous version, I am getting used to it.
I found this very similar to the Donnay Formula 100. If I had to be slightly nit-picky, the Donnay is a tad easier to swing/more maneuverable. I thought I could get a little bit more spin with the Yonex.
which racquet are you reviewing above the 98 or the 100 sounds like the 100 and it sounds very similar to a pro open
Sounds great Britt! One last thing...how is comfort? Is it firm / harsh feeling? Softer than the VCore 100S? Any flex felt?
I thought it was very similar to my VCORE 100 S on all levels including comfort, and stiffness/flex.
All in all, how good is this 100? Better than the vcore 100?
So you are saying the new 100 is similar to the VCore 100, which to me means pretty stiff? I was hoping the new AI's would be more comfortable, but it sounds like just more of the same. Is there any reason to choose the new AI over the VCore?
Sounds like a better idea may be to lead up a A1 98 Lite? The 11.5 oz AI98 is a little heavy for me.
\Ezone 100 with Helix string at 50 feels very good. Wii try 52 tension next time for a bit more control but this string feels great with this racket.
I really like this racket.
It is hard to say at this point if I like the Ai 100 better than VCORE 100 S. I will say I am really enjoying it right now but haven't been able to hit it as much as I want due to other playtests taking priority. It is definitely one of my favorites this year with just a couple hours under my belt of hitting. If you check out the TW staff picks, you will see I chose it as my racquet pick. Jason is also really digging the Ai 98 and has been hogging it the last couple days. As far as comfort is concerned, I find the comfort to be pretty similar between the VCORE 100 S, EZONE Xi 100, and EZONE Ai 100.
Wow I am surprised J likes the 11.5 oz 98. He usually prefers a little lighter racquets.
It looks like a copy of the Aeropro Drive - plays no better than the VCore 100, but more comfortable. Feels like a powerful wood racquet in the small sweet spot, I guess the handle tech works in that hits off-center aren't harsh, but they sure don't go anywhere. I would take the Aero over either one of them. The Aeropro hits a bigger serve and smash, more depth on off-center groundies. Volleys about the same, not a strong suit for any of the three.
I think the Ezone plays better than the Aeropro. More precise, does not vibrate on off center hits (which the Aeropro does) and has better feel.
interested if the ezone AI 100 is better than an aero pro too ?
For me it does. More solid, precise and better feel. Yonex quality is second to none.
In the xi 100 review you said that the serve was a little hard to control bc of power level; How do you feel about the serve with Ai 100?
Also, when you say it is harder to swing than the previous model, what aspects of play does it affect? Does it tire your arm out?
Finally, (for now )........ you said sweet spot is lower. Do you think it is still as large and forgiving as the xi 100?
Thanks so much for the info!!
I hit with the Ai100 today and I have to see it was amazing. Basically a less-hollow feeling APD (with no jarring on mishits) and a plusher feel for me. Longer dwell and feel for a stiff baseline basher. Lot's of power and spin - bh slices will float a little till you get used it. I am not sure I am ready to part with VCore Xi100 yet.... the Ai100 might have too much powah!
The 98 was a surprise too - but really a much different type of stick.
If I was considering and PD or APD I would definitely go for the Ai100. Quality is amazing too.
Do you feel the ezone ai 100 is notably more powerful than the vcore xi 100? How do they compare for feel and comfort?
It's interesting to compare the 2 - the key I think is in the shaft construction. The Ai has a real APD-like shaft with wide frame tubing (for crushing POWAH) whereas the VCore Xi100 frame has a thinner and more rectangular shape to the frame - thereby I felt like the Vcore Xi100 had more control, but the Ai100 felt more powerful and more plush (due to being 5 points softer) but maybe harder to dial in? I only demoed it for an hour so nothing conclusive yet. I am going back out on Monday and Tuesday to finalize my decision.
Also, I have never hit with the VCore S 100 and maybe that racket fits perfectly in between these 2 - I dunno.....maybe someone else could comment on that.
These 2 are both very powerful baseline bashers but the Ai definitely has the power edge. Whichever offers the most feel on drops and stability on volleys is gonna be the winner for me. I like the VCore Xi100 stock, but after hitting with the new Ai100 I might just go ahead and add some weight to pick up a little stability with it. Either way these both have HUGE sweet-spots so I'm not worried about comfort too much - the 71 flex on the VCore has never bothered me at all - especially with a multi.
The Ai demo did come prestrung with a Yonex poly of some type. There will be room to dial that part in later as well. Incidentally, I wish ALL DEMOS CAME WITH THE SAME STRING AND TENSION so you can really tell what each frame is really about. At this point in tennis, it's really about the strings rather than the frames themselves, so often you could be feeling a great string rather than a revolutionary frame
Boredsurfer - I'm also VERY curious how you rate the volleying ability of the racquet. I wonder if a little lead at 3 & 9 would help stability. Thanks for your reviews!
So the Ai100 is VERY stable for volleys - it rocks for that. If you can't put things away/block with this racket it's your technique. No twisting or flutter. Lot's of plow on groundies too. No lead needed. Although it will be compared to a APD I think it is more like earlier generation Roddicks actually.
I think I get the model lines better now:
The Ai100 is a true "tweener" like the Babolats but with better feel and more plow built in.
The VCORE Xi100 is a light, stiff and powerful racket with a more "players" type frame (a platform stick designed to be customized to your balance and spec preference). It sits between tweeners and players sticks. A lighter more powerful VCORE 97 Tour if you will.....
Both have lot's of power. Ai maybe too much? I prefer the additional mobility (whippy balance) and backhand slice of the VCORE Xi100 actually. I serve better with the VCORE too but maybe I would dial the Ai100 in with additional time. I will say that the Ai felt like it would be a real boom-stick.
With some lead the VCORE might be my holy grail. Lead at 3 & 9 would cure some volley and stabilty issues. I am a baseline basher so I'm not too preoccupied with that yet though.
The only thing I need to do (before I stock up) is to find a VCORE 100S to demo to see if I prefer the "feel" of that racket more.
Any more impressions?
I received my ai 100 a few days ago and played a good couple of hours doubles with it yesterday.
Still too early to give legit impressions and to be honest I am a bit of a tennis tech noob.
The only rackets I have owned and extensively played with are the Wilson Ksurge and the past year the Dunlop Biomimetic M5.0.
Both light rackets.
As I am going up to a 4.5 odd level league this season I wanted some more weight and stability.
I have little experience with frames heavier than 310gs so....
Strung with Volkl cyclone 50gs.
My first impression was the "plush" feel when hitting with this racket.
I never understood what Plush meant around these parts.
Well now I think I have experienced what it means.
It was very comfortable and stable for me. I really like the "feel" of the racket.
My finesse touch game has suffered a little playing with the Bio M5.0 this past year. Drop shorts etc didn't feel dialled in.
They did with this A.I 100.
Volleys is a major improvement for me.
This is where the racket shined in my first few hours playing with it.
My confidence at the net will undoubtedly improve with this racket.
Due to the significantly higher weight that I am used to, [especially swingweight],I did struggle to find rhythm on the baseline. Badly hitting the net a lot based on my technique. or over hitting. This will take a bit of adjusting as expected due to playing with light swinging, tinny feeling frames for so long. I struggled to find consistency with flat shots. This racket really promotes spin. Which is fine by me but I need to get used to it from the baseline.
I also think I need to raise the string tension to 53-54 to keep the inherent power under control. Stiffness and arm comfort will not be a problem with this racket. I really like that plush solid feeling. I just need more time with it to get dialled in at the baseline.
I will be playing a good few hours Wednesday.. Singles and doubles in preparation for the season. Will post more complete impressions later in the week.
Nice impressions. I think Yonex has a winner with the complete AI line.
From reading review's I'm guessing the ai100 may be a good option if you like the areopro but hate that woofer feel and want to be more connected to the ball.
I don't know exactly what the "woofer feel" feels like?
Can u explain?
Anyway, yes you are correct that the AI 100 is a good option for anyone in that 11 oz. tweener category (APD, PD, Pro Open, Speed MP, Warrior 100, X8, etc.).
Right now I seem to fit in somewhere between the AI 98 & 100. The 100 shares a lot of the 98's characteristics (hoop shape, tapered beam, areo type throat design, same Yonex technologies) that I like. I would love to try the 100 with a copoly or copoly hybrid (my demo had full NXT). I think that would reign in the power quite a bit. Also I would add a little weight to bring it up to near AI 98 specs.
Is it a big difference when you come from a 98" racket (old radical line), to a Ai100 from Yonex ?
Is the feel different, or do you just get more power with a little bigger racket ?
Thanx for the info !!
So Britt...is the AI 100 now your official racquet of choice? What about J? I heard he was heavily digging on it too. I love it as well and just bought 2 from TW. It can be hard to control with the wrong string setup, but get the poly in there at the right tension and it's a great stick that does everything well. Doesn't feel like 68 stiffness either, which is a plus.
So I haven't officially officially switched yet. It is a racquet I truly enjoy hitting with and grab it off the wall whenever I am not playtesting something. However, if I went to go play a tournament this weekend I am not sure if I would take that or the Babolat Pure Drive. And yes, I agree with you that it was much more comfortable than the stiffness rating indicated. Talking to Jason, he is "very close" to switching as he also has a fondness for the Wilson Six.One 95S. Jason and I both love Volkl Cyclone in the racquet around mid tension.
OK - thanks for the update!
Love my AI100 but it did take a bit of getting used to vs the Ezone 100. After about 6 hours on court, it feels great. Hybrid string setup at 56.8 fwiw
I agree! I definitely had a couple weeks adjustment period from my Yonex VCORE 100 S as well.
String recommendation: I'm a die hard X1B fan (full multi), would that work, in your opinion, or would either work? I just demo'd a friend's Juice - new version - and it was ok, but it seemed to lack a little plow. The AI 100 looks interesting, and I can't wait to try the pure Strike 16x19.
IMO, you could use full multi in the AI100, but not X1. Its just too powerful.
There are lower powered multis that would work better than X1 in this racquet. You could try it at around 60 and see, but I don't think its the best choice.
I am curious what the TW crew thinks.
I think I would agree with JackB1. Tecnifibre X-One Biphase would be a little too powerful in that racquet for me. It might work if I strung it on the tighter side, 60+ lbs but not sure how I would like that. If I would string a multi in the Ai 100, I would choose I slightly lower powered multi like Wilson Optimus, Babolat Xcel and Head Rip Control.
Agree. Some lower powered multi's are:
Head FXP Tour
Head Rip Control
Wilson NXT Control
Yonex Tour Super Solid
Isospeed Control Classic
Prince Premiere Control
Hey Britt....could u ask Jason to compare the AI 100 with the 6.1 95S?
Also, which is he favoring now?
I also love Cyclone at 55 in my AI 100. By the 3rd outing, it "breaks in" and feels nice and "pockety".
These 2 racquets are at the top of my list. I feel like I can get slightly more spin and slightly more control with the 95S but I think if I had to pick one, right now I'd go with the AI 100. If I can be nitpicky, another negative of the 95S for me was how easily the paint chips off of it. I'm pretty rough on my racquets and the paint and/or bumper guard just wasn't as durable as the Yonex.
Cyclone is a great string on its own. Factor in the price per set, and it's a steal!
Thanks J. Would you say the 95s hits a "loopier" trajectory than the 100 or are they similar? Which makes it easier to drive a semi flat passing shot?
Actually, the trajectory is about the same. Which is nice if you're like me, and have to transition from racquet to racquet. Did you say "flat passing shot?" I have no idea what the words, "flat shot" means. Not with my strokes. If I had to pick one, I think the AI 100 would do a better job at it. Since it has a higher swingweight, it won't be as whippy.
Thanks again. Think I will check out a demo of the 95s. The reviews are so stellar for this racquet everywhere. So its a little lower powered than the Ai 100? If I like Cyclone at 54 in the AI 100, what would be a good recomendation for stringing the 95s?
How does the 95s compare with the ai98? Similar?
Yes. They are pretty similar. The AI 98 feels more stable and solid while the 95S feels whippier and provides better access to spin.
Hi, can someone tell me the main difference between playing with the AI 98 and the AI 100?
I'm not an expert at racket technicalities. Thanks!
This thread has good comparisons between the two.
Thanks...I'll have to take my time flicking through those 44pages of posts :???:
Ah well ~I asked for it.
100 is overall easier to use...more power and bigger sweetspot.
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