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What tension did you string it at? I assume high 40s?I personally didn't like the new string. The Rev played too stiff for me.
What tension did you string it at? I assume high 40s?I personally didn't like the new string. The Rev played too stiff for me.
45lbsWhat tension did you string it at? I assume high 40s?
Strange. Yonex strings, imo have been pretty soft. Was it the shape or the coating from the inside that made it feel stiff to you?45lbs
After playing with both I feel the 2021 95 is a bit stiffer and a bit more stable. Though I had modded both the old 95 and the new one to the same specs. SW 350, 8pts Headlight, 355 total weight flex at 65 measured on Babolat RDC. I tried playing with the new Poly Tour Rev and it felt jarringly too stiff a string even when strung at 46lbs. I switched to Poly Tour Pro 18G at 45 and it felt much better. I could probably go even lower in tension or go with a gut hybrid.
After playing for a few sets I started to get dialed in. After playing a bunch with the Ezone Tour I like the added control, spin is slightly less and power is slightly less but I find myself playing better as I am hitting through the ball more. I was taking my foot off the pedal a bit with the Ezone Tour to get control. I may make the switch to this. I had also been playing with the Blade Pro 16X19 and while that racquet had plenty of pop I could never really dial in the control.
I wouldn’t put out a general statement like this. I have friends who played the German Bundesliga with 305 unstrung sticks. It highly depends on your play style.I wish they would've beefed up the 95 some more. It's to light. It needs a lot of lead to get to the point where a higher level player can actually use this racket in highly competitive situations.
340 strung is exactly what I play with. My frames are 340 strung and 5 pts hl.I wouldn’t put out a general statement like this. I have friends who played the German Bundesliga with 305 unstrung sticks. It highly depends on your play style.
This summer I lost a match against a 19 year-old, who is among the top 450 in Germany. This guy played with a 290 unstrung grams stick and was hitting incredibly hard winners left and right of me. He has no issues with stability.
I often wonder how a lot of the hobby players on this forum play with a 360 grams plus racquet. Yeah, the feeling and plow must be addictive, but that is where it ends for me. I’m pretty sure most of these guys would be better off with like 340 strung.
That's the nice thing about racquets like the VC series, they are light and very customizable to a player's spec. If you want a minimally customized racquet, then maybe choose a racquet closer to your specs? I'm sure there must be a Yonex that is closer to your specs? There is also the Yonex custom fit service in Japan, which is a pain and very expensive to get. I know 2 guys who have done it and got SV95 @ 325g 310mm balance sticks and stuck a bit of tungsten to get their preferred swing weight.I wish they would've beefed up the 95 some more. It's to light. It needs a lot of lead to get to the point where a higher level player can actually use this racket in highly competitive situations.
A 95 stick is great for control and feel, especially for a powerful player looking to "tame" their power. The VC95 with the isometric head has a somewhat generous sweet spot, but that same technology is in the VC98/100. The difference is in the feel feedback is better, so it "feels" like the sweet spot is bigger. That's all. It's more maneuverable and blocking volleys are easier, not to mention the feel and touch. That said, the more advance the level, usually the faster and heavier the balls come. So having a bigger margin is probably better. If you're comfortable with the 98, and play better, why go smaller and reduce your margins?everyone says how the 95 plays like a 97/98.
tennis spin talks about how the 95 is very different than the other vcores. which makes me curious...
to me the 95 seems like a difficult stick to use, especially for doubles?
i've been playing with 98 sq in frames. should i just stick to the vcore 98?
I believe it’s always maneuverability vs sweet area size. I have less mis hits with a smaller head size that is more maneuverable. I have waaaay less mis hits with the Prince 93p vs the Yonex HD97 for example. The Prince is faster for me and my play style. I would even say that I am hitting the cleanest with this and the SV95. Just because they are so fast through the air.That's the nice thing about racquets like the VC series, they are light and very customizable to a player's spec. If you want a minimally customized racquet, then maybe choose a racquet closer to your specs? I'm sure there must be a Yonex that is closer to your specs? There is also the Yonex custom fit service in Japan, which is a pain and very expensive to get. I know 2 guys who have done it and got SV95 @ 325g 310mm balance sticks and stuck a bit of tungsten to get their preferred swing weight.
A 95 stick is great for control and feel, especially for a powerful player looking to "tame" their power. The VC95 with the isometric head has a somewhat generous sweet spot, but that same technology is in the VC98/100. The difference is in the feel feedback is better, so it "feels" like the sweet spot is bigger. That's all. It's more maneuverable and blocking volleys are easier, not to mention the feel and touch. That said, the more advance the level, usually the faster and heavier the balls come. So having a bigger margin is probably better. If you're comfortable with the 98, and play better, why go smaller and reduce your margins?
I was speaking in general. I can't imagine anyone hitting heavy top spin shots would mishit less with a 93 or 95 vs 98 or 100, or someone who plays against a heavy ball. I also think it is also because you know the frame is smaller, so you consciously wouldn't be hitting with aggressive hitting angles as much for top spin? I know I was.I believe it’s always maneuverability vs sweet area size. I have less mis hits with a smaller head size that is more maneuverable. I have waaaay less mis hits with the Prince 93p vs the Yonex HD97 for example. The Prince is faster for me and my play style. I would even say that I am hitting the cleanest with this and the SV95. Just because they are so fast through the air.
For me it is a bit different. As I know that my 95 is not too powerful, I can easily go full out on angles and down the lines as I know I won’t be hitting long.I was speaking in general. I can't imagine anyone hitting heavy top spin shots would mishit less with a 93 or 95 vs 98 or 100, or someone who plays against a heavy ball. I also think it is also because you know the frame is smaller, so you consciously wouldn't be hitting with aggressive hitting angles as much for top spin? I know I was.
I would think so. It's thicker, and wider in the top hoop, and also thinner, so yes. The VC98 is almost identical to the SV98, with the exception of the aero trench and throat aero effects.Apparently its a new mold
What aren't you gelling with? The string pattern is the same with a stiffer feel. In all likelihood, if you aren't liking the VC98.18, you won't like the 21 which mutes the feel a bit more.Pondering if I should pre-order the new VC98, I currently play with the current generation 98 Galaxy, but am not completely gelling with it.
It was also mentioned by a Yonex rep they pulled out the frame more @ 2 and 10I would think so. It's thicker, and wider in the top hoop, and also thinner, so yes. The VC98 is almost identical to the SV98, with the exception of the aero trench and throat aero effects.
What aren't you gelling with? The string pattern is the same with a stiffer feel. In all likelihood, if you aren't liking the VC98.18, you won't like the 21 which mutes the feel a bit more.
Sorry, I didn't really express myself properly, VC98 is my favourite stick, my slight cons are some lack of feel and control (feels imbalanced), sounds like Yonex has done some changes to mitigate together with improved spin.I would think so. It's thicker, and wider in the top hoop, and also thinner, so yes. The VC98 is almost identical to the SV98, with the exception of the aero trench and throat aero effects.
What aren't you gelling with? The string pattern is the same with a stiffer feel. In all likelihood, if you aren't liking the VC98.18, you won't like the 21 which mutes the feel a bit more.
Test it before you buy it. Simple.Sorry, I didn't really express myself properly, VC98 is my favourite stick, my slight cons are some lack of feel and control (feels imbalanced), sounds like Yonex has done some changes to mitigate together with improved spin.
He gives that title every month to a new piece of gear. I think he has like 10 racquets of the year. Lol.how is it that Tennis spin is giving the new Vcore 98 the BEST racket of 2021. is he big time yonex fan ?
He is on the yonex stringing team, so you could say he’s a fanhow is it that Tennis spin is giving the new Vcore 98 the BEST racket of 2021. is he big time yonex fan ?
According to everything I've heard so far, it sounds like they drastically improved the 98, but f'd up the 95. I'm actually weirdly relieved because it saves me the trouble of worrying about possibly switching from the current 95.
I don't want to mislead anyone. It's all hearsay or first impressions at this point. The "Nerd" posted in his patreon that he measured his 95 2021 to have ridiculously low SW (312.5) yet somehow a lot more powerful than the current. To be completely fair, he didn't like the current 95 either so... grain of salt.Where have you negative feedback on the 95? I'm in the same camp as you, I wouldn't mind picking up some of the outgoing gen on discount if it's the better racquet.
I think with the 95, they were somewhat more conservative than the 98. I think they tried to get balance the SV95 and VC95.18. It's a competent stick on its own. The problem is expectations from users of the previous models. As an outsider, I liked the VC95.21, but prefer the less muted SV95. Yonex usually keeps weight and balance specs, but modifies characteristics like stiffness, string patterns and also adds new materials and technology.According to everything I've heard so far, it sounds like they drastically improved the 98, but f'd up the 95. I'm actually weirdly relieved because it saves me the trouble of worrying about possibly switching from the current 95.
Well, if you are comfortable and happy with the VC95.18, why bother? Once I gel with a racquet, I wait for discounts and stock up so I won't have to think about it. If you aren't performing as well, have arm issues etc, then I'd consider something else. Otherwise, nothing beats working on your game, grooving out the strokes to get better.Where have you negative feedback on the 95? I'm in the same camp as you, I wouldn't mind picking up some of the outgoing gen on discount if it's the better racquet.
Yeah, I thought the old Vcore 95 was his "greatest racquet of all time" (or was that just "Coach Gu")...........ha ha haHe gives that title every month to a new piece of gear. I think he has like 10 racquets of the year. Lol.
I don't want to mislead anyone. It's all hearsay or first impressions at this point. The "Nerd" posted in his patreon that he measured his 95 2021 to have ridiculously low SW (312.5) yet somehow a lot more powerful than the current. To be completely fair, he didn't like the current 95 either so... grain of salt.
He goes through a lot of relevant detail so yes he provides pretty good reviews. Maybe part of it is he is a high level player and gets more nuanceI really like Karue Sell's videos on My Tennis HQ. I think that in terms of comparison between the older version and the new VCOREs you can't get anything better at this moment.
Totally sold on the 98.
I'm not really sure how you draw that conclusion from what I wrote. Considering testing a new generation of racquet does not mean that less time nor focus is spent on playing tennis, interest of a new release on a tennis forum dedicated to racquets does not indicate much, at all, really. In reality it will not be possible to demo this racquet since everyone will want to, buying one and in worst case selling it isn't the worst outcome.Test it before you buy it. Simple.
Or buy it used. But I wouldn’t buy a new racquet for the full price that I’ve never played. Those reviews are mostly good from sellers of course. And the new generation is always so much „better“ than the previous one! That is why the pros are always playing with the latest rendition of a racquet. Always! It’s simply the best!
The two best players in our club play two very different racquets with a surprisingly similar play style. One a pure drive from 12 years ago and the other a prestige from 10 years ago, I think. They are very consistent with their gear and I believe that is one of the reasons they are so good. When they have a bad day on court, it’s never the gear that takes the blame.
For most players here it seems to be mostly, if not only about their gear. I think some of us wouldn’t even play if it weren’t for new racquets or strings.
I did. You can read about it at the start of this thread.Anyone try the new 100 yet?
I tested SV100 and VC 100 2021 side by side (pro stocks) and they are very different rackets. SV is way more flexible, completely different frame mold, different feel, less spin, etc etc.If it hasn’t at the least the feel/ball connection of SV98 then i would not even playtest it. It has been a long time since i tried a yonex stick and not a Babolat copy
I can’t speak to the new ones, but the 2018 versions were significantly different. Different beam widths, weight, balance, swing weight, power level, etc. Feel might have been somewhat similar, but that is subjective.Is 98 much different from 100? I used to play Pure Aero and now ezone 100. The only thing I miss in ezone is the Spin. I wanted to order Vcore 100 for testing, but I'm also thinking about 98. What do you think?
If it hasn’t at the least the feel/ball connection of SV98 then i would not even playtest it. It has been a long time since i tried a yonex stick and not a Babolat copy
Is 98 much different from 100? I used to play Pure Aero and now ezone 100. The only thing I miss in ezone is the Spin. I wanted to order Vcore 100 for testing, but I'm also thinking about 98. What do you think?
if you think you need less power then 98 would be ok. But if you’re happy with the power then you shouldn’t go down a size. I was testing the 98 ezone after being used to 100 rackets and I just couldn’t gel with it. I love the ezone 100 though.Is 98 much different from 100? I used to play Pure Aero and now ezone 100. The only thing I miss in ezone is the Spin. I wanted to order Vcore 100 for testing, but I'm also thinking about 98. What do you think?
I really like Karue Sell's videos on My Tennis HQ. I think that in terms of comparison between the older version and the new VCOREs you can't get anything better at this moment.
Totally sold on the 98.