Newbie stringer, silent partner swing?

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Federer_Express

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Hey guys,

I want to get a stringer, and its going to be my first time. I was wondering if a drop weight is worth it, and if the silent partner swing is a good deal? $200 for a 6 point mounting system and a free reel of syn gut. Thanks.
 
Federer_Express said:
Hey guys,

I want to get a stringer, and its going to be my first time. I was wondering if a drop weight is worth it, and if the silent partner swing is a good deal? $200 for a 6 point mounting system and a free reel of syn gut. Thanks.
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SP has a good rep for customer service. This is a good drop weight, IMO. Some stringers prefer to have taller upright support posts so that the clamps can be attached from under the string bed.
 
I would save up a little bit more and get the E-stringer. I use it and it would save you a lot of time. I have the 6-point mounting system also.
 
Federer_Express said:
Do I need to get a calibrator for drop weight machine?
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You should not need a calibrator for a drop weight. It's good for piece of mind to make sure it is calibrated correctly when you assemble the machine, but it should never need to be recalibrated.
 
I was just talking to this guy who strings racquets at my tennis club and he was telling me that the tabletop dropweight stringers are horrible. I don't know what to think now. I really want to string my own racquets with the silent partner swing, but now I'm having doubts. Any suggestions or feedback?
 
Federer_Express said:
I was just talking to this guy who strings racquets at my tennis club and he was telling me that the tabletop dropweight stringers are horrible. I don't know what to think now. I really want to string my own racquets with the silent partner swing, but now I'm having doubts. Any suggestions or feedback?
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some table drop weights are pretty bad as far as consistency goes... once you get more experienced it becomes less of an issue, but for a newbie stringer it's sometimes better to save up a little more and buy a more solid machine... The swing looks to be a decent machine, i've owned a e.Stringer FL for a little over 3 years, just recnetly sold it, the mounting system is a decent one. The only grip i'd have with that machine is the flying clamps... IMO if you think you will be stringing for a while, just save up and get the fixed clamps... Eagnas has some machines with pretty impressive features for the price, if you're worried about money, I'd recommend them if you're VERY handy or have a machinist friend in case something breaks and they are uncooperative. The price is attractive, but if you have problems most people will agree it is hard to get the problem remedied.

I'd suggest the Gamma 602-FC (or whatever model is currently being phased in as an equivalent) or the Revo 4000, although both are probably well out of your price range...

Eagnas sells the Hawk 80 which is VERY impressive as far as features go, but i've strung on one before, and the quality is pretty horrendous, the clamps slip (the teeth and the bases) and the tensioner is tedious at best.

The swing will be a fine investment if you are looking to string as a hobby, but if you are looking to string in the long term save yourself some money and go straight to the higher quality machines..

If anything else i bet you can ask around and i'm sure one of your friends may have a klippermate sitting around...
 
Federer_Express said:
I was just talking to this guy who strings racquets at my tennis club and he was telling me that the tabletop dropweight stringers are horrible. I don't know what to think now. I really want to string my own racquets with the silent partner swing, but now I'm having doubts. Any suggestions or feedback?
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It's all relative. Sure, we'd all like to have a Babolat Sensor, but if you take your time and use proper technique you can do a perfectly acceptable job on a drop weight machine. They are fine for personal use. There is a Gamma X-2 up on e-bay right now. It's frame mount is not quite as sophisticated as the one on the Swing, but it has taller frame mount posts and allows the clamps to be attached from under the string bed, which many stringers prefer. Of course, if you have the extra money, The Alpha Revo 4000 or Gamma X-6 FC are better machines and the Revo is much easier to use having both dual action swivel clamps and a crank tension head.
 
Gaines,

I appreciate your insights. You seem to be fairly honest and straight-forward with your stringing machine assesments.

I see you mentioned the Alpha Revo and Gamma X-6 FC but no LaserFibre.
Are they not good machines as well?
I'm on the verge of getting a LF, but still somewhat on the fence between the LF TT and the Alpha Revo, since they both seem to be a well regarded.
What do you think?

Also, I'm sure you've seen the other rather heated thread about 'Why would anyone get a LaserFibre'. It's been very entertaining to say the least. What do you think of the various claims made it that thread?

Thanks
 
jorge306 said:
Gaines,

I appreciate your insights. You seem to be fairly honest and straight-forward with your stringing machine assesments.

I see you mentioned the Alpha Revo and Gamma X-6 FC but no LaserFibre.
Are they not good machines as well?
I'm on the verge of getting a LF, but still somewhat on the fence between the LF TT and the Alpha Revo, since they both seem to be a well regarded.
What do you think?

Also, I'm sure you've seen the other rather heated thread about 'Why would anyone get a LaserFibre'. It's been very entertaining to say the least. What do you think of the various claims made it that thread?

Thanks
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I am a little conflicted about the Laserfibre machines at the moment. It is especially hard to compare them when recommending drop weight machines. They are pretty expensive for the fixed clamp models.They compare in price to many good stand mounted machines. Many users are unhappy with the single action clamp models because of the drawback in them. Then there is the recent rash of complaints about slow customer service and product delivery. LF seems to be a one man show on the US side and although Tim Sullivan gets rave reviews for his support and knowledge, it concerns me that he has almost become a single point of failure for them. I am a big fan of the Revo 4000 because it is a very good machine for the money(it's Alpha's top seller, AFAIK) and it gives you an easy upgrade path to the Wise tension head if you ever decide you want to go electronic.
 
Yea, I basically want a stringer for my own racquets. I'm not planning on turning pro or anything, but I seem to break my strings quite often. I mean if you say the silent partner swing will be fine as long as I work on my technique, I have no problem with getting it. So Gaines, you would recommend me getting a sp swing over buying like a reel of kevlar strings so I don't break strings that often? Thanks
 
Federer_Express said:
Yea, I basically want a stringer for my own racquets. I'm not planning on turning pro or anything, but I seem to break my strings quite often. I mean if you say the silent partner swing will be fine as long as I work on my technique, I have no problem with getting it. So Gaines, you would recommend me getting a sp swing over buying like a reel of kevlar strings so I don't break strings that often? Thanks
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Bottom line, yes, that's a good way to get started stringing your own racquets. I hesitate to recommend Kevlar string to anyone unless they have an elbow made out of stainless steel. :-)
 
Gaines,

Thanks for the response. Still in confused mode over this machine business. I did like your mention about adapting the Revo 4K with a Wise tension head, have read good things about that, probably from you. So that becomes a factor, though a di$tant one.

This is a thread asking what machine do you use, and I found it interesting that Laserfibre has quite a few entries.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-18576.html

I just don't know which to choose.
Is the drop weight system better than the spring crank of the Revo, and are all drop weight machines constant pull?
Laserfibre says it is a constant pull machine, yet I've read much about 'drawback', what to make of all this?

thanks
 
I've got a SP Swing. No complaints it's a great machine. As Gaines tells, as long as you practice proper technique and don't rush anything, you can get very consistent results.
 
jorge306 said:
Gaines,

Thanks for the response. Still in confused mode over this machine business. I did like your mention about adapting the Revo 4K with a Wise tension head, have read good things about that, probably from you. So that becomes a factor, though a di$tant one.

This is a thread asking what machine do you use, and I found it interesting that Laserfibre has quite a few entries.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-18576.html

I just don't know which to choose.
Is the drop weight system better than the spring crank of the Revo, and are all drop weight machines constant pull?
Laserfibre says it is a constant pull machine, yet I've read much about 'drawback', what to make of all this?

thanks
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Either type of machine will produce a good quality string job. CP vs lockout/crank is kind of a religious arguement, if you will. A CP machine will produce a stringbed that is about 10% stiffer than a crank machine at the same reference tension(the tension set on the machine). As long as one understands that, it is easy to adjust accordingly. The SP Swing is a lot cheaper than the REVO or any of LF machines. It is a good way to get started to see if you like stringing your own racquets. However, if you want to spend more money to start with, then you have a lot of options. You can't go wrong with any of the LF machines with DA fixed clamps or the REVO 4000.
 
The manual they supply you with is very detailed with good diagrams. If you have any questions about stringing techniques, you're in the right place!
 
Gaines Hillix said:
SP has a good rep for customer service. This is a good drop weight, IMO. Some stringers prefer to have taller upright support posts so that the clamps can be attached from under the string bed.
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The web site and the user manual (download) show the clamps hanging from under the stringbed.
 
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