Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Raistlin, Dec 5, 2011.
I think it is possible
I think the Australian Open will be crucial. If he wins there he'll get very close to no 2 in the rankings or just surpass Nadal at that point.
That would totally change the draws with him being seeded 2 and Djokovic first thus avoid him before the final. Nadal could well be drawn against Djokovic in the semis.
It's all hypothetical but 100 % possible.
The only way Fed has a chance at this is if he gets as angry as he was after losing AO08.
The highlighted sentence is going to draw blood with some posters!
Federer was in a jovial mood when he did this interview. This is clearly in the Swiss/German brand of dry humour.
These articles are always written to sensationalize and twist people's words, if not misquote them directly. The article starts.
"Roger Federer believes that his strong finish to the 2011 season puts him ‘in the conversation’ for a run at the No. 1 South African Airways ATP Rankings later next year,"
Wrong. If you read the quote he says he would be "in the conversation" for #1if he were to win a GS next year in addition to his end of 2011 performance.
Sorry to sound sour, but how careless/lazy are these folks?
yeah it makes it sound like he's on a mission to do it, when he's just saying if he can win a slam it might be possible at sometime in the year.
It's nice to see him still hanging in there despite being well past his prime. I believe if he works hard on his fitness (his footwork looked really tired sometimes) + a bit of luck, he can do it.
You mean by crying??? Oh my.
Wasn't the crying after AO 09?
He said AO08. Not AO09.
5460 looks like lots of points, but when you look at Djokers 3 majors and 5 masters and none for Rodge with only one master it becomes very doable.
The top 2-4 are chasing the number 1 ranking in 2012. That's not anything new.
Don't forget the top 1 as well, who's a hunted man.
Fed needs AO for it to happen. It would also help that both Nadal and Djokovic lose early.
Sorry Mus, did not include him because he's not really gonna chase the #1 but instead will just have to maintain his stature.
Yes, it must be lonely up there as number 1, knowing that everyone wants your spot and that you're going to have to work harder than ever to stay there.
One thing is for sure, i'd bet every penny I have he won't make it to the FO semi's undefeated. He can start kissing points goodbye now.
I have yet to see any top player's comments at the end of a season claiming that he'll not be chasing #1 in the upcoming season. Pretty sure Federer remembers all too well what happened last year when he was in the exact same situation...
Every #1 is a hunted man, Mustard.
And you also have to work harder than ever to get to number 1. Everybody wants it but only the best will get it.
Just like how it's improbable that Nadal will defend all those final appearances at Masters and slams. :lol:
Don't forget Roger has the WTF to defend again as well.
Isn't it the last tourny of the year? How does it compare to what djoko has to defend all through the year?
You should have replied with one of those MJ gifs that MN uses on everyone else.
He is already NO.1 in my eyes..
So basically nobody should try to win every tournament they possibly can because it will bite them in the *** the next year? :lol:
Tennis is truly the strangest sport ever. Why the hell did you have to win everything, Djokovic? Don't you realize what you've done?!?!?!? :evil: You should've bowed out at Wimbledon in the 3rd round and skipped Madrid and Montreal! (presuming Djokovic reads this forum)
Djokovic is going to have his work cut out for him. He won so much meaning he has tons of points to defend. Let's see if he's up to the task.
As for Federer, at this stage in his career, I would hope that he still wants the #1 ranking back.
Djokovic can sacrifice a few Masters titles and put most emphasis on the Slams. He'll be smart regarding his preparation for 2012. He's still the youngest of the top 4 guys but far mentally superior to Murray. And he has extreme confidence in his ability to beat anybody in the world.
Yeah just because he has lots of potential points to defend doesn't really mean he has to. Just do better than everyone else.
Fed has won two Masters and one major in the last two years (2 WTFs helps) so he needs a big improvement next season to get back to number one. I think it's more on him to do better than it is on Djokovic to repeat his results.
Ofcourse to be N.1 at the end of the year you just have to win more points than the others in that year. But when we're talking about Fed's chances of becoming number 1, the "defending points" stuff becomes important. Federer performed really well at the end of the season while Djokovic did well everywhere BUT the end of the season. This gives Djokovic a lot of points to defend, almost all of them in the first half of the season. If Federer manages to do well in that period of time he has a good chance of being number 1 before Basel starts because of all the points he gets from the end of 2011
We have to be realistic. Federer can no longer just turn it on when he pleases. For 2 years straight now, Federer has had relatively poor results after the AO (by his standards). When was the last time he won Indian Wells, Miami, Rome or Madrid? I recall it was 2009 when he won Madrid. He didn't even make the finals of Montreal or Cincy this year. How can people on this forum simply presume that Federer is going to rack up tons of points in 2012 just because he has points to gain? When does a player suddenly start getting better results than he did in prior years when he's in his 30s?
The WTF means nothing. It's impossible to ride any momentum or wave of confidence from a November indoor tournament in London against fairly tired players all the way to the immense heat in Melbourne 2 months later where everybody will be raring to go with a renewed passion.
Don't think Fed needs to win all the master series he plays in. If he can keep making the semis or sometimes better on most masters from the march hardcourt swing until Rome like he did somewhat this year and focus on the slams for the big points he will be in a good position.
Also disagree on WTF and how it affects momentum. Fed rides on a wave of confidence and momentum right now just like he did last year.
What I think it happened this year is that he peaked too soon in Doha and after his 5 setter with Simon he wasn't riding on the same confidence as he was just before.
That match really broke his momentum and affected Fed for the rest of the tournament I think, it was visible in his play in the next few rounds (unconvincing round against Malisse and needing 4 sets to dispatch Robredo). Still put up a good fight against Novak but to beat him with the kind of tennis Novak was playing in that tournament Fed would need to be in full flight, no less.
Also, the indoors season is also played on hardcourts, and as far as I know, the Rod Laver Arena is not as windy as the Arthur Ashe stadium or other avenues more affected by weather conditions. Heat was never quite Fed's problem, he prepares himself to play under the heat of the australian summer during his off-season by training in Dubai or other similar locations.
Plus, Rod Laver Arena also has a roof, so if any other adverse condition comes in play such as rain or extreme heat, that would come in Fed's favor.
Anyway, it will depend more on Fed's showings in the Slams than any other tournaments. This upcoming AO will be crucial to Fed's ambition of getting the #1 ranking back.
I know it is, but there's a substantial point difference between being in a final, and winning a tournament. Djokovic won every tournament he played up until the FO semi's. It's simply not gonna happen again. Nadal crashed out early in the AO and Novak won it, just right there he has plenty of opportunity for gain.
Considering you started watching tennis in May, and stopped in June, that was quite fast.
Most Rafa fans take life-times to realize that
Nadal crashed out in week 2. The same stage he lost in the year prior.
I don't think people here presume that Federer is simply going to rack up tons of points, they're just discussing the possibility that he might rack up enough, which also has to do with how well his competitors will be doing.
Federer will serve and volley his way to The Golden Slam of 2012 with a wooden racquet.
Anger will pull him to the dark side: --> the comeback of Darth Federer
Agreed. But I really hope Fed doesnt adopt this way of thinking, he'd start loosing and then believing he still has his chances in the upcoming tournaments. He must win every tournament he plays. That's the mindset he needs.
Federer stood still on top of the hill. Let's see how Djokovic is gonna handle the pressure, sorry the hyperbar pressure :twisted:
Won't happen. Hope and expect top 4 semis in all slams except RG where Murray will be out before semis.
You're a true Federer fan. Respect for this deep comment.
With a spaghetti string for better top spin.
LOL..nice one..I think fed's talent is superior to any one currently playing..so i am not blind to realize the obvious.:twisted:
Federer isn't one of the top 2 outdoor players anymore. But he is great chance for 2012 World Tour Finals and Basel.
I'll take to alcohol (out of joy) if he wins 4 with any kind of racquet.
If he wins 3 or even 2, I'll have a sip or glug of champers or wine to celebrate.
I think there a a few real spoilers out there now. Murray probably is more motivated than anyone and could become a monster. He has all the weapons that Novak has along with a better serve.
^^ Uhm. No. He has not the same power on his forehand, he doesn't have the same backhand, esp. when it comes to consistency, but could improve, I agree. However, his second serve is horrid compared to Novak's.
Besides, Murray doesn't have a forehand up the line.
WF, you are generally pretty knowledgeable, but Murray having a better serve than Djokovic? The guy has a dismal first serve percentage and one of the most powder puff second serves in the game. No way is his serve better than djokovic's.
I think Murray is as good off both wings as Novak but plays very defensively. Ive seen him hit some ferocious forehands. Not particularly a Murray fan but i remember thinking he had bulked up and looked much more intimidating in Shanghai.
I just want him to break petes record
I expect 2012 to be a blockbuster year in tennis! I expect to see great match-ups between Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Tsonga and Del Potro and to see three different winners of Majors. All the top players are gonna come to the party and produce their best (I hope).
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