NextGen failing to take the return game seriously

bjsnider

Hall of Fame
When we look at the service games won stat, there's are many nextgen guys in the top 25. Obviously, the offensive part of the game, the big serve and big forehand are important parts of the nextgen skillset. If we begin with 2018, there are 7 nextgen guys in the top 20 (if Kyrgios was counted, he'd be in the top 5): Khachanov, Tsitsipas, Thiem, Edmund, Coric, Zverev, Shapovalov. Moving on to 2019, fully half of the top 20 are nextgen guys: Opelka, Berrettini, Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Medvedev, Fritz, Thiem, de Minaur, Coric, and Hurkacz (should be 11/21, again, we're missing Kyrgios in the top 5). In addition to missing Kyrgios both years, in the sense that these players should appear on both lists, we are also missing Zverev, Edmund, de Minaur, and Khachanov at the very least due to injuries.

The point is, the nextgen guys seem to have no problem with the philosophy of hitting big serves and groundstrokes. What about defense? What about the return game?

Starting with 2018, we have Chung, Zverev, Coric, Thiem, and de MInaur. 5 guys in the top 20. There should be improvement in 2019, since these guys are getting better with age, right? In 2019, we have Medvedev, Zverev, Rublev, de Minaur, Thiem. 5 guys again. Additionally, in 2018, 2 of the 5 guys were in the top 10, and last season it was only Medvedev. One nextgen guy in the top 10.

How important is the return game? The #1 player in return games won in 2019 was also the world #1 player. The #2 player in return games won was also the world #2 player. Both players split the 4 majors in 2018 & 2019. Notice that Medvedev was ranked #4 in return games won in 2019, and also world #4. Murray, Nadal, and Djokovic were all in the top 20 as teens. Murray was #4 in return games won in 2006, when he was 18/19 years old.

The thing that puzzles me is, how have the young players lost the emphasis on the return game in the first place? Are return skills not being taught in juniors/academies? Whatever the reason, it's an emergency that the nextgen guys need to fix post-haste.
 
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a10best

Hall of Fame
Thank you. I was pointing this out in the Shapovalov fan thread.
Out of these guys Berrettini, Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Medvedev, Fritz, Thiem, de Minaur, Coric, and Hurkacz.
I believe Tsitsipas, Medvedev and Coric will develop more aggressive and intelligent ROS. The other guys, especially American, think offense is the best focus like an NFL team. Pretty dumb when they had to have known the last 15 years was dominated by the big 3/4 who had great return games and defensive skills. They're just not thinking or they are but like Roddick & Blake.
 
The thing that puzzles me is, how have the young players lost the emphasis on the return game in the first place? Are return skills not being taught in juniors/academies? Whatever the reason, it's an emergency that the nextgen guys need to fix post-haste.
Serving is much easier to practice than returning. The service situation is practically very similar from one serve game to another, at least when it is still beginning.

The return is less predictable. The server really has the ball! Will it be the first or second serve? Absolutely impossible to be returned the 1st one or on the contrary the weak 2nd one? What would be the focus?

It is much easier to focus on your own serves. How much does that also mean that the loss of the serve game is somehow an irreplaceable failure, at least in that set, but the loss of the return game is normal even for Djokovic!

Simplified: You can safely lose 3-4 return games in a set, but losing 1-2 serve games can be fatal. Even hard training has no guarantee of great success as a returner. What can you do when the 1st serve passes past the left and right ??

The simplest is just to wait for the second serve and the tie-break!
 

van_Loederen

Professional
return game is more difficult, but less important. if you want to get to the top, you need to have a good return too though.
Murray has an exceptional return even, but didn't manage to win a Slam for a long time because he was too passive, while his first serve and groundstrokes were pretty big actually, but that was not enough.
 
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