Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Fed probably laughs at this. What? Time for a SF at the WTF and a career of 3 slams if lucky? Yeah, it is your time...That ship sailed long ago. Time is what will retire the Big 3.
NextGen getting cocky?
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Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
agreed on the last point but he can beat anyone on any given day now, and that is all we need.
Rather than think about which young guy could beat everyone, let’s think about how many guys the Big 3 can lose to and the math is starting to add up.
For Fedalovic, not only will they have to beat each other now, but they will have to bring their best against Thiem, Z, Tsits, Medvedev too. That sets the stage for a lot more upsets.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
LmaoIt reminds me of those Sarah Mclachlan animal abuse commercials
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
So 3 slams now is pathetic?Fed probably laughs at this. What? Time for a SF at the WTF and a career of 3 slams if lucky? Yeah, it is your time...
Kuerten is a pathetic player? Stan also? Sir Mandy?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
He'll make his move...
... toward a Tomic the Tank Engine career.
Right now he is trying as hard as someone like Nick can. This is his best effort.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Did I say pathetic? When you say "this is my F'n time now," you better back it up or just looks silly. It is not his time now, nor would a 3 slam career mean it was his time.
Would you say Wawa had "his time?" I would say he had a few moments in a long career. It is not about 3 slams being "great" or not, but his time?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
If Zverev wins 3 slams, then absolutely he has the right to call it his time.Did I say pathetic? When you say "this is my F'n time now," you better back it up or just looks silly. It is not his time now, nor would a 3 slam career mean it was his time.
Would you say Wawa had "his time?" I would say he had a few moments in a long career. It is not about 3 slams being "great" or not, but his time?
3 slams is a great career, even during the Inflation era.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Slight edit...NextGen 2017, its first iteration, eliminated anyone born before 1996, not 1995. Medvedev, Chung, Berrettini, Khachanov and Coric are the oldest of NextGen. Youngest of LostGen extrapolated to non-NextGen players inside the top 50 are Pouille, Kyrgios and Djere.
Sadly, unless one or more SinnerGen members are late blossomers, which could happen (watch Alcaraz Garfia on clay), Sinner is head and shoulders above that next generation. I should amend that statement to say I won’t be unhappy at all if that is the case because I am a full-fledged Sinner and believe he is the next double-digit Slam champion.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Well if he wins 3 slams (still don't agree that is "his time"), he better start now, as he said it was his time... now.
Sephiroth
Hall of Fame
This is the stuff of nightmares.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I don't like Sinner because he has the demenour of a yuppie accountant, i.e. boring and arrogant, but I am sure he will dominate in some future era...
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
2nd set of Rome 2019 final shows the level Zverev is capable of. He's got the talent but Slams are where he's lacking. He needs a great coach.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
I have seen very little arrogant behavior from him and I feel sorry for you if you find his game “boring.”
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Not his game, his personality is boring.
The arrogance is something that one detects or fails to do...
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Or an imaginary foible a potential detractor fabricates to build a false flaw. The kid just mentioned he’ll take just a few days off at home with his family and friends, who treat him with little or no difference from his pre-successful 2019.
I can detect a hater in the making.
Purplemonster
Hall of Fame
Tsitsipas said that ??
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
What has the bolded part got to do with anything? I didn't even know this.
I detect a non-sequiuterer in the making.
Besides, a hater of haters is also a hater...
Federer and Del Potro
Talk Tennis Guru
Some of you gonna eat your words 2020 or 2021
Or 2022 or 2023 or 2024. NextGen has to win eventually, no?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
wangs78
Legend
These young guys have good reason to feel confident about beating the Big 3. They've been beating them this year. The question mark is can they beat everyone else consistently enough to make it to the final weekend of a Slam. For that, they have little reason for confidence at this stage.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
The bolded part has to do with the fact that an 18-year-old already realizes there are few days off when in pursuit of some lofty goals. No time for arrogance.
I can hate as much as I like anyone that makes up pure bullsheet like you are already spreading. I dare you to find one comment made by the teen that any rational person would perceive as being arrogant.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Talk about being delusional... Tin Henman must be doing heavy drugs to say this today about Stefanos:
"It has been an unbelievable year (for Tsitsipas), a breakthrough year; he came to this event to give it one last push and he will be mentally and physically exhausted because he's put so much into it."
How about winning a major? An "unbelievable year" is Chang and Wilander winning the FO at age 17, Boris winning Wimbledon at 17, Pete/Rafa winning slams at 19...
"It has been an unbelievable year (for Tsitsipas), a breakthrough year; he came to this event to give it one last push and he will be mentally and physically exhausted because he's put so much into it."
How about winning a major? An "unbelievable year" is Chang and Wilander winning the FO at age 17, Boris winning Wimbledon at 17, Pete/Rafa winning slams at 19...
The word unbelievable is now a synonym of good.
Winners or Errors
Legend
I want teenage Sinner to do it if anyone.
victorcruz
Hall of Fame
Well... can't say they aren't getting closer. It prob has more to do with the big 3 aging but having the confidence is not a bad thing. You have to believe you're gonna do it before you actually do it.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
It has come too late, because of the lost generation. The next gen is doing it right. Now we have no.4-8 filled with young guys things look more normal. This will also serve as motivation for guys lurking, Shapovalov(no. 15), Khachanov(17), de Minaur(18), Auger-Aliassime(21), Rublev(23), Coric(28), Kyrgios(30), Fritz(32), Garin(33), Opelka(36), Hurkacz(37), Tiafoe(47), and many more who are 23 and under. Finally, we may have a new no.1 in 2020/2021.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
As I said before, arrogance can often be detected, just as words can be read between the lines.
And I still don't understand what your example has to do with arrogance or the lack of it.
Of course, it is hardest for arrogance to recognize other arrogance, because it lacks the ability to recognize it within themselves...
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Tsitsipas is 21 and has beaten all 3 of them this year.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
I’ve witnessed your hatred and arrogance on other subjects...spots on a leopard.
What a joy you must be to acquaintances.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I am a joy to my foes too...
You're enjoying this, otherwise you wouldn't be replying every time, right...?
And don't mistake your own confusion with my imagined hatred... The two are wholly unrelated, and one of them doesn't even exist...
Federer and Del Potro
Talk Tennis Guru
He also lost in the 1st Round of 2 slams.
Zverev has beaten them all in M1000's.
Hasn't translated to slam win(s). That's the real goal. They've made good strides, even in some slams. But goose egg on wins.
I like Tsitsipas and do think he has slam titles in his future but he has a long way to go. WTF champ to slam champ is not an insignificant jump in degree of difficulty. To win a slam, you'll very likely have to beat at least 2 of the big 3, if not all 3 in a Bo5. Plus all the other young guys that are starting to improve.
But yeah, if people keep saying someone new will win they will be right eventually, I mean big 3 aren't immortal.. so to that I say about time.
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Sad they had to wait this long to be cocky and they STILL have no slams lol
yokied
Hall of Fame
They're certainly the hairs apparent!
Sinner is an impressive ball striker but need to improve tactically. He could get there and is more likely than most, but very far from a lock. We've seen a lot of bashers come and go. The big 3 might just be old enough for him to avoid accumulating too much psychological damage before they retire.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
I do enjoy being above gutter tripe but it’s no challenge to be sure about your shallow agenda.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
BS like this from Zverev is singlehandedly responsible for jinxing his entire generation into winning BO3 titles at best these last few yearsThat ship sailed long ago. Big 3 retirements at this stage should all be attributed to time not due to anything NextGen does.
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Purplemonster
Hall of Fame
At least Zverev and Thiem didn’t refer to themsleves.
Why would a player not refer to themselves in this instance? There's no benefit conferred to Tsitsipas if (say) Medvedev wins a slam. He has no interest in a Nextgen player other than himself winning a slam title. If it's not him, it might as well be Nadal and Djokovic once again splitting the titles.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
We are more likely see the Big 3 retire the Next Gen.
Purplemonster
Hall of Fame
With the lousy reputation the young guys have, probably best for them to shut their holes and let their racquets do the talking.
flanker2000fr
Hall of Fame
I think they might be right, and frankly tennis badly needs the youngsters to step up and break the Top 3 oligopoly on the slams.
That being said, and as much as I like his style of play, I think Tsitsipas is getting bit ahead of himself, and at times sounds like his head is getting inflated.
Which contrasts with Thiem, who is always humble to a fault.
As for Zverev, he has quite a lot of work ahead of him to get there.
That being said, and as much as I like his style of play, I think Tsitsipas is getting bit ahead of himself, and at times sounds like his head is getting inflated.
Which contrasts with Thiem, who is always humble to a fault.
As for Zverev, he has quite a lot of work ahead of him to get there.
duaneeo
Legend
A huge fault. His attitude needs some swagger.
Winners or Errors
Legend
I just have to close my eyes every time I watch Tsitsipas serve - ugly, ugly motion. The rest of his game I enjoy.
V
Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
I think Rafa and Novak will dominate 2020 for one last time, and then it will change in 2021. My gut intuition - barring injuries - is that we will have one final hurrah of domination by Nadal and Djokovic next year. (Either 2 and 2, or 3 and 1)...
PeoplesChamp
Legend
The only one of them that has proven of any use at all is Thiem. All Tsitsipas does is beat Federer at the wrong times as if he's not annoying enough already. Medvedev when he's not acting looney.
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titoelcolombiano
Legend
This isn't the first time they've been hyped. Let's see them deliver a slam and then they can talk.
P.S. Medvedev and Tsitsipas have been the two that have caught fire late in the season. The world number 1 Rafa Nadal is 7 - 1 against them combined this year. Keep trying fellas. Ironically the one loss came against Tsitsipas on clay.
P.S. Medvedev and Tsitsipas have been the two that have caught fire late in the season. The world number 1 Rafa Nadal is 7 - 1 against them combined this year. Keep trying fellas. Ironically the one loss came against Tsitsipas on clay.
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