Nick Kyrgios gets defaulted in Rome

hipolymer

Hall of Fame
I just feel like he has a sick obsession with wanting to be disliked. He just wants to be like John [McEnroe]. For me personally—I don’t care right now, I’ve come this far—I feel like he just wants to be disliked so much that I just can’t stand him.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
Boris is a freaking legend of the sport and can call out a tool crapping all over the sport he loves anytime he wants. What is your deal in trying to defend the indefensible?
but what does his comment have to do with what nick wrote about andy and lmao what, lbr the only reason you afeel some type of way about nick is because of his comments about nole, which again i realize its a foreign concept here but i can call out nick's actions while also in general calling the hypocrisy of the atp and folks around here as well. i never said what nick did was right, or that it wasn;t childish. I just think that people ought to the show the same kind of scorn everywhere. where in the world did i actually defend what nick did? what by thinking that he should be punished but that a 6 month suspension is ridiculous for what he actually did, or not raking him by the coals because of his comments in a podcast where he said someone was arrogant and someone was try hard and yes if he said fed was an arrogant tool i would still stand by that, tbh he wouldn;t be far off anyways. sorry i think comments that side with neo nazis and the alt right should be shown more scorn by he media.

also okay boris is a legend, big deal, he also has a history of stirring the pot and well if im not mistaken has run into trouble with the law, something as far as i know nick tech hasn;t but please continue on. so you know someone who throws a tantrum that the media also gives more attention to is imo nothing compared to say boris who if im not mistaken was in the middle of a bankruptcy case and then using a fake passport to get out if it. but hey i guess i also have different values. also lmao crapping all over the sport is such an exaggeration, i cant with you people.
 
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icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
also since clearly people can't get it through their thick heads, again what nick did was wrong and childish, and he got rightfully punished, he was defaulted, lost points, and also fined. he should be punished in accordance with what he did and if anyone insinuates he should be doubly punished because of his comments on a podcast i cant take you seriously. i didnt realize that this would be worse than having a run in with the law but hey apparently "legends" can say w/e they want and also his comment about talking to inmates was just weird, why someone from jail, he could have mentioned anyone it was just bizarre but i expect nothing less from boris.
 

Your Hero

Professional
Now that I've finally watched it on YT from all angles it's kind of sad.
Not a good temper tantrum at all. No style points. The ball girl stole
the show and she's only in it for 3 seconds. Nick really must try harder
next time if he wants to live down to his reputation.
 

Raul_SJ

Legend
I just feel like he has a sick obsession with wanting to be disliked. He just wants to be like John [McEnroe]. For me personally—I don’t care right now, I’ve come this far—I feel like he just wants to be disliked so much that I just can’t stand him.
He's just not interesting and talented enough to be a villain like Mac.
Nick has the personality of a doorknob without the game to back it up.
Nobody would miss him if he just retired tomorrow.
 

Grampa

Semi-Pro
Talent alone doesn't bring success. Nick's apathy towards tennis is understandable, though it really is the only way he can earn well. He can't play basketball at any level, or does he think that if he works hard enough he might become Jordan? Guy is afraid to try, plain and simple, afraid of failures even after putting in the hours. Talking crap about all time greats is not much f he can't really back it up
 

NoleFam

G.O.A.T.
but what does his comment have to do with what nick wrote about andy and lmao what, lbr the only reason you afeel some type of way about nick is because of his comments about nole, which again i realize its a foreign concept here but i can call out nick's actions while also in general calling the hypocrisy of the atp and folks around here as well. i never said what nick did was right, or that it wasn;t childish. I just think that people ought to the show the same kind of scorn everywhere. where in the world did i actually defend what nick did? what by thinking that he should be punished but that a 6 month suspension is ridiculous for what he actually did, or not raking him by the coals because of his comments in a podcast where he said someone was arrogant and someone was try hard and yes if he said fed was an arrogant tool i would still stand by that, tbh he wouldn;t be far off anyways. sorry i think comments that side with neo nazis and the alt right should be shown more scorn by he media.

also okay boris is a legend, big deal, he also has a history of stirring the pot and well if im not mistaken has run into trouble with the law, something as far as i know nick tech hasn;t but please continue on. so you know someone who throws a tantrum that the media also gives more attention to is imo nothing compared to say boris who if im not mistaken was in the middle of a bankruptcy case and then using a fake passport to get out if it. but hey i guess i also have different values. also lmao crapping all over the sport is such an exaggeration, i cant with you people.
I despised him long before his comments yesterday. I just don't like him at all and find nothing interesting, amusing or entertaining about him. I said nothing about a suspension but whatever they decide, this is like his 3rd or 4th time getting fined and getting in trouble with the ATP. I don't care what they do with him. You are too much in your feelings having a go at Boris because he called him out. It was well warranted, and I'm sure plenty of others within the sport are not pleased. It's not hard to act like a mature adult and conduct yourself like a professional athlete while you are on the court, like hundreds of others out there.
 
Nick Kyrgios
1 min ·
Very eventful day to say to the least ‍♂ Emotions got the better of me and I just wanted to say that the atmosphere was crazy out there today, just super unfortunate that it had to end in a default Sorry Roma, see you again, maybe ✌

See you again maybe :-D
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Talent alone doesn't bring success. Nick's apathy towards tennis is understandable, though it really is the only way he can earn well.
Yeah, and Nick's banked 7.3 million bucks on court and millions more off court. If that's "the only way he can earn well," we all need to jump aboard that train.
 

Grampa

Semi-Pro
Yeah, and Nick's banked 7.3 million bucks on court and millions more off court. If that's "the only way he can earn well," we all need to jump aboard that train.
You always get riled up when someone takes a shot at Nick. He raves on about hating tennis and loving basketball but still plays the former professionally. Just think it would be better if talks about something different, this shtick of his is getting really old.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
@icedevil0289 As if Boris has ever "talked to an inmate" in his effing life. This is from a guy who nailed some stranger in a broom closet and claimed the "Russian mafia" stole his sperm and demanded DNA tests on his own daughter. As if there was any doubt? o_O Boris has become a truly desperate attention ho at this point.

he's such a flop the fact that he tried to deny any kind of relation is something else.
You always get riled up when someone takes a shot at Nick. He raves on about hating tennis and loving basketball but still plays the former professionally. Just think it would be better if talks about something different, this shtick of his is getting really old.

tbqh imo nick shouldn't even be getting so much media hype. they also have a love/hate relationship with him hence teh many articles and think pieces
 

Grampa

Semi-Pro
he's such a flop the fact that he tried to deny any kind of relation is something else.



tbqh imo nick shouldn't even be getting so much media hype. they also have a love/hate relationship with him hence teh many articles and think pieces
His good for the clicks though, that is what matters to the media. Tennis as of now doesn't really have anyone outside the big 3, and Zverev flopping big this year really doesn't do wonders for the sport. Thiem still hasn't won a slam and he is 26. Nick is impertinent but has been on the scene longer than the other two and is kind of like Jmac and Connors and Agassi all rolled into one, without the results. Of course he is going to be infamous.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
His good for the clicks though, that is what matters to the media. Tennis as of now doesn't really have anyone outside the big 3, and Zverev flopping big this year really doesn't do wonders for the sport. Thiem still hasn't won a slam and he is 26. Nick is impertinent but has been on the scene longer than the other two and is kind of like Jmac and Connors and Agassi all rolled into one, without the results. Of course he is going to be infamous.
that is on teh media and tennis though. that is their issue that tennis isn't generating anything outside of the big 3 and they need to figure out how to deal with it instead of putting hopes on somone like nick and freaking out when he doesnt act accordingly. also again i should say he should be called out for his behavior, although a 6 month man is ludicrous. lbr if this were someone idk, trying to think of someone who people dont consider talented or capable of winning a slam, they would not care as much if he messes up.
 

Grampa

Semi-Pro
that is on teh media and tennis though. that is their issue that tennis isn't generating anything outside of the big 3 and they need to figure out how to deal with it instead of putting hopes on somone like nick and freaking out when he doesnt act accordingly. also again i should say he should be called out for his behavior, although a 6 month man is ludicrous. lbr if this were someone idk, trying to think of someone who people dont consider talented or capable of winning a slam, they would not care as much if he messes up.
You can't honestly blame this stuff on the media though, they can publish articles on any player they want but quite useless if there is no interest in said player from the general public. A six month ban would be ludicrous, to say the least of the business atp would lose over Kyrgios being on the sidelines. Punishing him by taking away his prize money is the best they can do.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
You can't honestly blame this stuff on the media though, they can publish articles on any player they want but quite useless if there is no interest in said player from the general public. A six month ban would be ludicrous, to say the least of the business atp would lose over Kyrgios being on the sidelines. Punishing him by taking away his prize money is the best they can do.
i guess i wasnt clear, what im saying isthey are somewhat complicit, them, the pundits etc who hype him up and yes he generates interest on his own, but they do, imo, put a lot of their hopes on him or did anyways i mean i see so many commenets being like he has so much potential and look what he's doing type things and being more upset that he is wasting his talent
 

Grampa

Semi-Pro
i guess i wasnt clear, what im saying isthey are somewhat complicit, them, the pundits etc who hype him up and yes he generates interest on his own, but they do, imo, put a lot of their hopes on him or did anyways i mean i see so many commenets being like he has so much potential and look what he's doing type things and being more upset that he is wasting his talent
Understood. But then again, try to understand it from the tennis pundits perspective. People like Gilbert, Evert, Mcenroe are here to sell the sport which we love, and its future is tentative. to put it mildly. Nick is one of the few who can really go up against the geriatrics, so naturally it means he can and should win titles. Hence their disappointment when he doesn't even meet them and tanks before, citing "lack of interest", which is code for I am not fit enough to play tennis throughout the year,

Any match which Nick has won against the fedalovic or put himself in a winning position has required him to be the top of his game that is heavily reliant on serve. He doesn't quite get the gist of returning, can't slug it out from the baseline nor has great court coverage. He needs to disrupt their rhythm by really going for his shots, a high risk strategy. He is talented no doubt, but not to the extent some here drool over. IN short, he isn't going to be winning slams like any all time great, not until he improves his fitness and starts returning reasonably well and the future of men's tennis is doomed.
 

ABCD

Hall of Fame
Kyrgios woke up after the podcast, realized what he has done (ie. made some powerful enemies) and decided to fake madness on the court hoping to provide evidence for diminished responsibility. He probably understood how used he was and how stupid he was. Federer will protect him up to the point, but will let him down the drain when it becomes really hot (ask Chris K).
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
Overrated my ***, he's totally capable of stepping up and winning Wimbledon if he wants to.
Putting the fact that he hasn't actually displayed anything close to a Slam winning form aside, it is quite sad that people are putting the "if he wants to" condition for winning a tournament like Wimbledon. It shows that something is "wrong" with that guy.
 

Tennease

Hall of Fame
Did it go down as a default or a retirement?

In the video clip above, it looked like he was assessed penalties. He threw the chair and the umpire called for the ref. Then he walked off the court.

But was he defaulted?
Defaulted.
The commentator said that the referee (Gerry Armstrong) came and then the decision was to default Nick.
 

joekapa

Legend
Overrated my ***, he's totally capable of stepping up and winning Wimbledon if he wants to.
Nah. Used to think that. Used to think he had the tools to do it. But he doesn't. If that was the case Karlovic would be a multi slam winner.
As Djokovic has said in the past. "Everybody has good backhands, and forehands. It's the confidence that makes the difference". Kyrgios is missing plenty from his game. Speed, agility, ROS, and champions spirit.

He is not "young" anymore. He is 24. No way he can adapt his psyche to the point of winning slams from now on.

Bad thing, for him, is that he played the "bad boy" in the past, when he was getting some results against top-10 players. Those days are long gone, and younger and better players have stepped up and overtaken him.

His "bad boy" strut is no good to him, without the results to back it up.

Too late. Journeyman at the most. Might have a little bit better career than Bhagdatis. But not as long, for sure. He will be done by 30.

Nick Kyrgios will be a "couldabeen" champion.
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
In tennis years he ain't. He is almost midway through his career, if he plays until he is 30.
Look at where Zverev, Thiem, and Tsitsipas are, compared to Kyrgios. Top-10 players. It ain't 2016 anymore mate.
It is almost like some people live in parallel worlds. Some statements around here are that surreal.

:cool:
 

deaner2211

Semi-Pro
So did the Umpire announce the default or did he just walk off court?
Why does it even matter? You said that Rudd held serve but he didn't and that is were you were wrong. The Umpire penalized Nick a game and that is when he went off by kicking water bottles and throwing the chair. Nick walked off before the umpire defaulted him.
 
Krazy Knicky does have talent, he's like Monfils was before he settled down and now has a steady gf. He's got a few bucks in his pockets so he thinks he's Rockefeller, when he blows through his wad and figures out the only thing he's good for is partying, working in a carwash or playing tennis-- he'll maybe settle down and shape up--that's a big maybe. His dad's no longer in the stands and I don't think his mom is there to do his laundry for him anymore.

What I like about his game is that he throws in all these unused shot's like underhanded serves, droppers and lobs that by "gentlemen's agreement" the pros don't use against each other. I'd like to see him use the one that bounces over the net then spins back over the net--that ones a real no-no and would really **** Rafa off and maybe even freak-out Roger.

If he's so enamored with the NBA lifestyle, then instead of packing it in, he should have jumped into the stands and confronted the fans he was jaw-boning with--then we would have tennis back in the sports news and get kids back onto the courts. He's good for the gate and the general public lines up for his matches whenever he plays like they did in Houston--they want to see him melt-down--everyone likes a good train wreck. He does have the talent and often makes his opponents run around looking like fools. His throwing objects around, being out of control and endangering linespeople, ball-kids, and fans is INEXCUSABLE! When he thinks about the hot car he could have bought with his fines he may shape up a little.
 
I like how all the people favoring a lengthy suspension are usually the same people who wonder why Tennis isn’t more popular.

He’s good for the sport. Period. There isn’t going to be a massive increase of chair throwing at USTA events now.

Federer has the right take.
 
He should get some suspension so he can get the partying out of his system and think about what he did.

BTW, who's that guy in his box with the clear eye-glass frames?--his valet? Didn't appear to be anyone in his box anymore, used to see his brother, now only the guy with the clear eye-glass frames.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Why does it even matter? You said that Rudd held serve but he didn't and that is were you were wrong. The Umpire penalized Nick a game and that is when he went off by kicking water bottles and throwing the chair. Nick walked off before the umpire defaulted him.
I think you have the wrong person
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
The sooner Nick is gone from tennis the better. If I want to watch players who don't care about the outcome of the match, I can go watch middle aged housewife doubles at my club.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
It's not the first time this is happening, and I think the ATP needs to drill into his thick skull that this is not acceptable, and utterly unprofessional.

Here's what I think they should do:
- give him a 3 months ban with immediate effect
- add a probation period of a year, where any further transgression gets him an automatic 6 months ban
- if that ever came to pass and he still didn't get the message, increase the next ban to one year
- a further transgression after that earns him a ban for life

Enough of that clown, already.
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
It's not the first time this is happening, and I think the ATP needs to drill into his thick skull that this is not acceptable, and utterly unprofessional.

Here's what I think they should do:
- give him a 3 months ban with immediate effect
- add a probation period of a year, where any further transgression gets him an automatic 6 months ban
- if that ever came to pass and he still didn't get the message, increase the next ban to one year
- a further transgression after that earns him a ban for life

Enough of that clown, already.
I approve of this treatment, but with several conditions on Nick's part:

1) ATP starts enforcing the actual rules (including the time violation rules) with immediate effect
2) ATP starts hammering on spectators that aggravate the players during their actual tennis. Banning spectators from stadium in the same schedule as above
3) TD being banned from doing favours to the big stars by granting them WC for brothers, mothers and other ****ers
4) Removing of the seeding system for determining the draws
5) Removing of the privileges of the top players to play always in the same stadiums thus gaining competitive advantage over all of their colleagues
6) Removing the privileges of the top players to ask for a different time of their matches and different referees

Enough of that circus.

:cool:
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
I approve of this treatment, but with several conditions on Nick's part:

1) ATP starts enforcing the actual rules (including the time violation rules) with immediate effect
2) ATP starts hammering on spectators that aggravate the players during their actual tennis. Banning spectators from stadium in the same schedule as above
3) TD being banned from doing favours to the big stars by granting them WC for brothers, mothers and other ****ers
4) Removing of the seeding system for determining the draws
5) Removing of the privileges of the top players to play always in the same stadiums thus gaining competitive advantage over all of their colleagues
6) Removing the privileges of the top players to ask for a different time of their matches and different referees

Enough of that circus.

:cool:
I'd actually agree with all of that, save for 4). Surely the draw needs to be determined by the seeding? Otherwise how do you call the draw?
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Surely this would sometimes make for terribly unbalanced draws, wouldn't it?
But in the end, over a long enough period of time it will balance out. Also, it is not like we don't have these from time to time due to how the actual draw turns out. Nadal's USO 2017 campaign clearly illustrated it.

:cool:
 

BlueB

Legend
I'd like to see random draws! Unfortunately, it would open opportunity for even more rigging, if organizers decided to do so.

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